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shocking news: your favorite character from the media you enjoy in a very very healthy way turned out to be not only your current obsession but also a headmate!!!!

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1 in 5 people are probably plural
5 in 1 person is definitely plural
You’re in her bed, but I’m in her brain #mrintrojectsintoyourgirl
anyone else have an extremely strong sense of identity and also no strong sense of identity at all because it changes constantly but each variation is like really pronounced. Im normal BTW and wont be seeiong a psychiatrist
IDENTITY EMERGES ORGANICALLY FROM ACTION
IF YOU DONT DO ANYTHING YOU ARENT ANYONE. SORRY

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Really I think some of you just want a scapegoat to blame for the rampant ableism that isn't even unique to dissociative disorders and you point towards endogenics. I understand your anger but you're taking it out on the wrong people and going about it the wrong way. Lack of understanding, awareness, and tolerance for mental illness is the reason we get mocked. Not because some person finds meaning in separating their personality into parts, or naturally views it that way.
Be nice to people who experience life differently than you and see things differently than you. Try to understand where they're coming from. Endogenic isn't an attack on dissociative disorders. It's just a way some people conceptualise themselves or choose to live. And it is not, in any way, synonymous to "without trauma." Even people without DDs have trauma sometimes. Even endogenics. 👍
I think we should have separate terms for endogenic and (clinically) traumagenic systems, since system was a term that originated clinically
System is short for Survival System.. and— endogenic collectives are not made from intense abuse/trauma
A little example…
(Blue is for clinical traumagenics, green is for Endogenics, pink is for umbrella terms/both)
System
Collective
Group
Fronting
Dawning
Present
Alter
Identity
Headmate
I think that’s pretty cool right? It’s a nice compromise
Hi - slight correction, the usage of "system" for CDDs comes from "personality system", which is why medical literature also uses it for endogenic systems :)
The Haunted Self,
It's used for many, many, many things outside of CDDs. It's not exclusive to CDDs nor solely clinical contexts. It was used for CDDs because of its pre-existing definition and usage.
For example,
^ APA's definition of system
^ Systems psychology
^ Freud's ID and Ego
^ Systems Theories
PDF | This paper explores the dual-processing hypothesis of the mind, Systems 1 and 2, by examining debates between cognitive and evolutiona
^ Systems Thinking
Request PDF | The personality systems framework: Current theory and development | The personality systems framework is a fieldwide outline f
^ Personality Systems Framework
^ And of course, Internal Family Systems. Though there are many more examples
We're happy to provide examples of medical literature using "system" to refer specifically to non-trauamgenic and endogenic plurals. We can do the same for the term "alter", where there's also a noted preference for "headmate" instead
Not meaning it in an offensive or rude way, but we're not sure if you noticed that you categorised "identity" as being for use by endogenic systems as opposed to clinical traumagenic systems, who have disorders with "identity" in the name
-Elliott
Oh my paws I am so sorry… OKAY!! UNDERSTOOD!! Thank you for the education Mister/Misses
Lol, it's okay. The last bit was quite funny honestly.
In general - alter, headmate, identity, fronting, system, collective, etc. have all been used for both traumagenic and endogenic systems in medical literature
"Alter" has been used similarly to "system", though we don't talk about it as much because it's hard to find out if it originated from "alter ego" or "alternate personality". And a lot of systems have a preference for headmate, so don't use the term anyway. But either way, it's not an exclusive term
"Identity" came about because dissociation is a disruption of identity (at least, that's the most likely explanation.) I.e. a disorder caused by dissociation of identity. But again, it's something used everywhere for many different things, since alteration and disruption of identity occur in many other contexts.
Most terms like "fronting" didn't come directly from clinicians. They described it in a lot of different ways, but a lot of specific terms were never fully established until the system communities got together and figured them out
There are a number of terms that are exclusive, but it's a lot less than some people think. Many well-known terms were either made from a mix of the communities, or are used by other communities because of their definition and original usage (like Protector)
calling the other headmates "chat" when you do anything at all. Chat did you see that?
this is funny plurality!

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A doodle one of us made as a visual aid to help compare with another system how it feels like it works
Queer plural system, call that a fruit basket
therian plural system, call that a zoo
being anti endo but pro-alterhuman is so fucking funny to me.
Oh you're a wolf? just because you feel like it? cool! valid ✅ Two wolves? electric chair
inside you there are two wolves. you are a plural system
I promise I'm really smart it's just all my best thoughts get lost in The Fog
How its going

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i <3 u fictives
fictives who have the same likes/dislikes as they do/did in source
fictives who hate the things they liked and/or love the things they disliked in source
fictives who are only fictives by origin, not appearance, name, personality, etc
fictives who present/look different than their source
fictives who like sourcemates
fictives who don't like sourcemates
fictives who use neopronouns/xenopronouns
fictives with "problematic" sources
multisourced fictives
fictives who are a different age than they were in source
fictives who have source memories
fictives who don't have source memories
fictives from niche/obscure sources
fictives who hate the things they did in source
fictives who are proud of the things they did in source
fictives who experience dysphoria related to the body's voice, appearance, or presentation
fictives who experience little to no dysphoria
fictives with roles that match their source/character
fictives with roles that don't match their source/character
roleless fictives
i <3 u :)))
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