FanBlog about the Tales of Series, principally Vesperia, Symphonia, Graces, Abyss. (I begin to play to Xillia too). Fluri, Ristelle, Richass and others.
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Why didn't Yuri tell Flynn what Sodia did at Zaude? I think there are a few reasons.
He feels that resenting her for it would be hypocritical, because he believes her actions are equivalent to his. He's already made the stance that if a criminal is evading justice, it is alright to take it upon yourself to deliver that justice. Being angry that his own logic got turned on him would make him feel like a hypocrite.
He doesn't think it would do any good. What's the point? He doesn't see Sodia as a threat to innocent life (he doesn't consider himself innocent). So what if she broke the law? So has he. Flynn has enough to deal with; he doesn't need an additional stress. It would just be going through the song and dance of a legal trial when the world is in trouble, taking up time and energy to deal with someone who isn't a threat anyway.
He's not going to do Sodia the favour of telling Flynn for her. Yuri knows that Sodia is remorseful. He knows she is wracked with guilt and feels awful about what she did. Sodia wants Yuri to tell Flynn, so that she can be punished, beg forgiveness, perform penance, and redeem herself. Yuri is not going to give that to her. If she wants to rip that bandage off, she's got to take responsibility for herself and be the one to break the news to Flynn.
I think Yuri's decision to stay mum is a combination of all three reasons. He thinks bring her to justice would be a purely preformative act that doesn't actually make the world better or safer for anyone, so he's not going to do it because it would feel like being a hypocrite and a tattler, and if Sodia wants the redemption that comes with penance, she's got to seek it out herself.
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I WILL STAND BY THIS INCREDIBLE DELIVERY AND ANIMATION UNTIL THE DAY I FUCKING DIE
Especially because of the way that they positioned this entire scene. I mean… look at how the animators designed this.
This movie is about wilful loss.
Just… stay with me for a second on this one. Because Treasure Planet may be one of the only fucking movies I’ve ever seen that says losing may be the best and brightest option.
You’ve got Jim, who’s emotionally tumbled up inside, chasing things just to feel anything, losing more and more of himself the farther he goes. He’s desperately searching for something metaphysical and losing miserably, and so he decides instead to try and look for a treasure, wondering if maybe a tangible goal could fulfill him.
And then you have Silver, who we’re not yet sure of emotionally, but physically, he embodies the idea of accidental loss- where he’s lost parts of himself trying to find something material. Obsessing over things and objects and, in return, failing. He decides to give it another go, trying to steal a ship and take a crew and eventually succeed in hoarding the largest treasure the galaxy had ever seen.
Then the physical and the metaphysical meet. And they sit. And they talk. And, on a single trip on a single boat, they find what they need.
And they find it in losing.
Silver gives up treasure.
Jim gives up trying to earn and lost fathers pride.
And it’s only by giving up their goals that they can find new ones.
I’m not saying that this movie promotes giving up dreams. Far from it. This movie, instead, promotes the wonderful and delicate idea that if we push ourselves onto dreams, we’re likely to lose them and, in return, lose ourselves.
It’s the things that we allow to happen to us, when we allow ourselves to be vulnerable, that truly change us and make us whole.
I have no business making anything this intricate over another Abyss fan’s (fantastic) shitpost, yet here I am, doing exactly that. Just in time for the end of 2020 (good riddance).
There was an attempt to make a skit. I can’t animate so it’s a skit in comic form.
Uhh, Tales of the Abyss meets Parks & Recreation, I guesss…?
I might do more skit comics like this, it was relaxing and I’ll use any excuse to draw the Abyss cast
I currently lack the artistic skills to bring them to life visually, but been thinking on roleswapping the main characters in Vesperia, but instead of the more common ones (like I've seen Flynn swap with Estelle), wanted something more "out there":
Yuri
If we wanted to keep Yuri as the main character, I think he'd have to stay the same. However, you could
swap him with Estelle and get the whole "Royals Who (Try To) Actually Do Something". But the more I thought on this, the more I think it'd be interesting if Yuri swapped with Raven. By doing this, you get to keep the whole "Yuri was once a knight" thing and also keep that he's an older protagonist as well. Not as old as Raven, but he wouldn't be the typical JRPG protag age range (17). I've seen plenty of ideas with Yuri having a blastia heart because of something postgame, but I feel it would have the most potential if he swapped with Raven. You don't even have to have him as old as Raven either, you could have him be an experiment of blastia hearts and that's what ultimately pushes him to leave the knights like in canon.
Estelle
This one had me Think, and I considered "just swap her with canon!Yuri"... but what if we took Estelle's indecisive flaw and swapped her with Karol? Karol was hopping guilds prior to BV, and Estelle's indecisiveness could substitute well (imo) in a roleswap with Karol. And given how much Vesperia makes room for Karol's character development, Estelle would be right at home since I feel she's one of the characters that needed it the most. (note: one of). Plus, Estelle having more freedom than she would in the Palace leaves for different conflict and growth, but ultimately keeps core to who she is. The drawback to this is her whole Child of the Full Moon schtick, where we know that Alexei wants to exploit that, and it'd be a little harder to do so if she wasn't controlled by the Empire. But maybe that gives him an excuse to call for war between the capital and Dahngrest? Who knows.
Repede
You can keep him with Yuri, and I don't think it'd change much. I do, however, think you could potentially have him with another character mentioned below, aka the character I think should swap with Yuri. Doing so frees up another character (Ba'ul)...
Karol
I swapped Karol with Patty because there's enough adventure to stick with Karol in an AU, but enough from Patty's backstory that can be used to fuel Karol's own conflicts. I don't think the amrita thing is necessary, but if we think about it, Karol and Patty are two characters that don't have the greatest rep in Act 1/2 of Vesperia. Patty is universally disliked cause her "grandfather" was a tyrant, and Karol has a bad rep for guild-hopping. Imagine Karol struggling to reform a pirate crew because he lost his old group/was kicked out of it? You could even make Siren's Fang the members of the Hunting Blades instead.
Raven
I would really like to see Raven swap with Rita. While he's not as associated with ALL blastia the same way Rita is, he's tied to the blastia hearts. Imagine if he were an ex-knight (like Yuri) but knew about blastia hearts and that was the drive for all his research. And Aspio seems to like to keep to itself, so I can see them ostracizing Raven just as much as they do Rita. I also like the idea of anyone looking at Raven and automatically assume he's not smart enough to understand blastia, but he does, actually.
Rita
I considered swapping Rita with Patty, but actually, I want to swap her with Flynn. As mentioned, Aspio mages are employed by the Empire. In the game, Flynn goes to Rita for her help with the tree in Halure, but Rita brushes him off. As Sodia states in Yumanju, this is not professional and would result in legal trouble with the Empire since they are the ones ensuring Rita has everything she needs to do her research. Fortunately for Rita, Flynn was nice enough to let her stay put and research to her heart's content. Rita's refusal to go along is how Flynn ended up with Witcher in his brigade. While I can't see Rita being a textbook knight like Flynn, the game teases the idea of Rita being in the Flynn Brigade had she just followed orders. Rita even implies (in her own "tsundere" way) to Flynn that she may or may not consider helping him next time if he needed it. You could see this as gratitude for Flynn letting her do as she pleased. I also think Rita swapping with Flynn would also keep the core of her familial relationship with Judith, who...
Judith
...I initially thought of swapping her with Estelle, but Judith's free-spirited nature is so tied into her character that it's very difficult to separate. So, I think Judith should swap with Yuri. It also gives her an excuse to keep Ba'ul if we really wanted some consistency. Unfortunately, this does conflict with who swaps with Judith (more on that in the next section). You could also keep Repede out of the roleswap, and just have her be Judith's companion instead of Ba'ul. I mean, Repede liked Judith, remember? Anyway, Judith isn't as torn up about the unfairness of the Empire like Yuri is, but she certainly doesn't want to be tied down by strict rules and I don't think she's one to turn a blind eye to those being mistreated by the ones in power. I imagine Judith, who had to crawl her way up from nothing from square one (cause despite the tragedy of Temza, she did have a roof over her head and a loving father), would be less tolerant of the Empire, and it could put some conflict between her and Rita, esp if they grew up together in the lower quarter. Imagine Judith's frustration with the Empire growing tenfold because Rita kinda had "no choice" but to work with the knights who were more than willing to turn a blind eye to those in need of help? You also forget that Judith's father, Hermes, also worked with the knights even if he wasn't technically of the Empire. I'm getting more ideas on this one, so I'll stop yammering. And no, since she's swapping with Yuri, I don't think Judith would be a Krityan in this AU.
Flynn
Hear me out, but I would like to see Flynn swapped with Judith. And no, that's not my bias speaking. Both characters have things in common and enough contrasts in their backstories that it can make for something interesting. In canon, it's implied in the DE/PS3 version that Flynn, despite his accomplishments, is pretty damn lonely. He doesn't have friends the same way Yuri does. While Sodia and Witcher are loyal to him, the Yumanju scene makes it clear they struggle to put aside Commandant Flynn and Flynn (the person). Judith herself is very lonely despite having a companion in Ba'ul, and this is reinforced even more in Ryuutsukai (vol. 2). I think the loneliness would make it fitting to have Flynn and Judith swap in an AU, but also because of their deceased fathers. Judith destroys Hermes blastia because her father made them and it was harming the environment. Maybe Finath isn't an inventor like Hermes in this roleswap!AU, but I could definitely see Flynn taking on a solo mission to "clear" his father's name (Judith's reasoning is "because I wanted to", not for anything "noble" like clearing a name, or so she says). One thing that could make this challenging is Flynn's views on the law. Technically, breaking blastia is a crime, and if Flynn's as a stickler for the rules in this AU as he is in canon, then that can create some Trouble. I do think it'd be interesting that instead of joining a guild like Judith joins Brave Vesperia, he would lean more towards the knights to keep some consistency with his canon counterpart. Another issue I found is Ba'ul. Would Flynn have a companion in Ba'ul, or would it be some other Entelexeia that's just kinda There for a mutual mission? I humored Khroma, because she's got enough off screen time to leave shit up to interpretation in canon, but enough that she wouldn't be completely on Flynn's side either. However, Khroma would still become Sylph, which would mean they would part ways for good if she were Roleswap!Flynn's Entelexeia buddy.
Patty
Admittedly, Patty is the one I put the least amount of thought into, and it's a shame cause she's definitely in my top 5 list of Vesperia characters. But I'm swapping her with Estelle purely for the whole one-off line that Patty was once a noble (mentioned by Jim in one of the Capua towns). I think Patty also being a victim of Alexei's schemes makes it easy to slide her into Estelle's role. I imagine if we keep Patty's whole "amrita" bs, then the Empire would undoubtedly want to discover how and where she found it, even if Patty herself doesn't remember.
every time i replay this game (which has been a lot), i think about this scene (and zagi in general) a lot. i have a lot of thoughts and headcanons about zagi as a whole, but i think a lot of zagi's interactions with yuri did stem from wanting to have some form of companionship. it was at nordopolica that became clear, i think (after yuri commented on zagi's strength on ragou's ship, i believe).
that's really not to say he went about it the right way, or that yuri was ever obliged to reciprocate, though part of me wonders whether zagi even knew how to properly make friends/companions, and his only means of communication was through combat (a running comment between my friend group being zagi's love language is sparring) — looking into further interactions (tarqaron comes to mind, where zagi was desperate to be the most important thing for yuri to focus on, even if it meant dooming the entirety of humanity). i often wonder if, to zagi, he perceived their fighting as a sign of strengthening their bond, and thought that yuri reciprocated the enjoyment he got from it. that clearly wasn't the case, but i think it adds a layer of tragedy to it: a one sided friendship (or relationship, depending on how you interpret zagi's comments) that meant a lot more to zagi than it ever did to yuri.
then again, i think there's a lot of tragedy behind zagi's character as a whole. i can, and will, ramble about that later on, though. it's also fitting my first proper post is about this damn cute assassin that occupies my mind more than he should.
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Tales of the Abyss fanart - done! Some insights on the symbolism and a closeup under the cut:
I put a lot of thought into the whole "Scion of Lorelei" prophecy while I was playing the game. If I remember correctly, the prophecy was not public knowledge but only a select few higher ups knew the entire content of it. Still I couldn't help but wonder - what if there was a kind of hero worship for the Scion of Lorelei? He was prophesized to bring glory to Kimlasca, so at least THEY would have loved him. What if there were statues or like here, paintings of the hero that would be coming?
What if Asch, who feels like he is no longer that hero, is reminded over and over again by this of all that he no longer is?
Hence, this picture
If you look closely you will see that the sword (of Lorelei) is aiming straight at Asch below the picture. I was going for a sort of "Sword of Damocles" feel here, the destiny hanging over his head, and how if he would have followed the prophecy, he would have died
Also, Asch is shown standing in shadow and "lower" than the hero, because that's how he feels like - he no longer is the hero, he is the burnt out ashes of one, operating in the shadow now.
I tried to aim for an outfit that is somewhere in between Luke, Asch, and Mister End, and is still not one of them entirely. The hero depicted here is not one of those three men. He is all of them, and neither.
Also, I wanted to go for the Kimlascan colors on his outfit - since he is prophesized to bring good for Kimlasca specifically - but I couldn't rememember if they have a specific flag or anything. I went for violet / purple on the shoulder pads, because that's the color the Kimlascan king wears
There is a small ring of colors beneath the "sun", three colors on each side and an empty one in the middle. This is supposed to represent the seven Fonons and their element: Shadow, Earth and Wind on the left, Water, Fire and Light on the right. The middle is empty, since the Seventh Fonon is not attached to an element and has no color.
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There’s some discourse regarding Luke that I want to get straightened out. Major spoilers for him so don’t read if you haven’t at least gotten past Yulia City (though being further can help, too).
Luke is not a 7-year-old young child. He has been alive for seven years, but that’s not the same thing.
He is mentally 17. How do we know this?
Because he was replicated when Asch was already 10. That means Luke inherited all the neural connections that Asch already had in his brain, on a physical level.
Ergo, Luke started off as a ten-year-old and has been aging from that point onward. Yes, physically and mentally. It’s not rocket science (even though there’s a bit of “science” involved…) but I always thought that was self-explanatory.
There’s literally scenes and skits in the game where Luke and Guy (who we KNOW is biologically 21 years old and NOT a replica) where they share the same hormonal thoughts towards women, especially Tear. Even Luke is seen thinking about things that a typical 7 year old child (assuming he/she grew up in a safe and stable environment) would NOT be thinking about. Such as being awkward that he was sleeping in a (rather pretty) girl’s bed, or when Anise mentioned the party “sleeping together.”
(And as an actual parent to a seven-year old boy, I can one hundred percent attest to this.)
“Oh, but Guy actually did call him a child!”
…Have you actually heard of metaphors? Lmao. He was comparing him to a child, because he only had 7 years of experience.
Tell me…would the party even push Luke to hook up with Tear if they had ANY inclination that he was still mentally a 7 year old? Not just that, but even Natalia has a hard time choosing between him and Asch (and absolutely doesn’t even think about his “age.” It’s not even a question for her).
So, Luke is mentally a 17 year old teenager for most of the story. End of discussion.
Hope I was able to clear that up. :) :) :)
Edit: I know people make tongue-in-cheek comments, fanart, etc. and I have no problem with that. It’s funny to think about him as a “little kid”—but when people use that as a so-called “basis” for why he can’t have serious, mature/romantic relationships…well, that’s when I think it’s a problem.
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