My Tokusatsu-addled and sleep-deprived brain cannot stop thinking about this crossover scenario. Thus, I feel compelled to share it with you guys.
The scenario in question is Worm-centric, and (as is oh-so-often done by the Worm fandom) involves an altpower Taylor. The catch? This iteration of Taylor triggered with a connection to the Sanzu River, which gave her the ability to summon the Gedoshu from âSamurai Sentai Shinkengerâ. Summoning higher-level Ayakashi like Shitari and Manpuku, however, takes a lot of power, so she primarily uses both low-level ones and Nanashi Renjuu support.
Thoughts? Let me know in both the comment section and reblogs!
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hello! i know this is from several years ago, but Leap/Wormphibia, was a very cool and engaging au and I was wondering if you had any idea as to how it would end? throwing the kiddies into Post-GM earth Beta is hilarious though
Oh, no clue whatsoever, lol. Although now that I'm thinking it out, it's kind of interesting that while the protagonists of both stories finish the climax by receiving power-boosts so extremely damaging to their bodies that it's a functionally suicidal act, I felt that Anne's decision to do that was accepted strangely uncritically by the story as a largely positive encapsulation of her character growth, while Taylor's similar decision is framed as both only-probably necessary, deeply morally questionable and the ultimate terminal exaggeration of her series-long self-destructive and control freak tendencies. Whatever ending you go with I think your best bet would be to bounce those two decisions off each other, maybe have something different happen in the climactic fight with the core as a result of that cross-pollination.
Or well more of a âparahumans AUâ of Danny Phantom; pretty much the only thing from Worm is the parahuman power stuff rather than the specific characters/locations being explicitly included. Basically âwhat if Danny Phantom involved Capes instead of ghostsâ
Btw the links throughout this are generally to the wiki pages for things in case anyone is unfamiliar with anything. Or the general wiki links are here (DP) and here (Worm)
Jack and/or Maddie Fenton previously triggered and gained Tinker powers due to their ongoing obsession with trying to prove their scientific theories (which could be about ghosts or be something more Worm-y (e.g. potentially involving alternate earths or trying to find the origin of parahuman powers)).
Those new powers certainly didnât improve the chaotic nature of their lab, but it did allow them to make far more complex devices.
The biggest of which is in the form of a portal. Itâs taken a lot of work to create, but theyâre hopeful that it will finally prove them right now that theyâve completed it. Finally make all the hardship they went through (enough to hardship to trigger) worth it.
âŚExcept it fails. They plug it in, and nothing happens.
Well, nothing yetâŚ
Later, their son Danny takes a few steps into the portal frame on a dare, and his hand knocks against a panel on the wall. A huge burst of electricity surges through the structure as a rift tears through the air.
Right on top of his fragile human body.
Energy courses through him as his vision is filled with the impossible sight of countless dimensions, of the near-endless expanse of space, and of gargantuan creatures spiraling through it all.
And then he collapses, the memories of what he saw slipping away from his brain as his new powers settle into his body.
(His parents, if they are nearby, see the visions too. The sight feels familiar, even if they canât remember why. But any further consideration is shelved when they realize the portal is on.)
More misc thoughts about this idea beyond the cut:
I figure thisâd be a setup that leads to getting a Trump power, since the trigger directly relates to another parahumanâs powers. Plus, a Trump power that allows for a bunch of different facets would align with his array of ghost powers from the show.
Specifically, itâd probably fit the âInfinity/Tenâ subtype of Trump; those are caused by triggers that involve âa power breaking reality in the vicinity.â I think an unstable portal being opened on top of you should definitely count for that.
âŚBut then idk how one would design a power of that type well. The description of âPower sets nearly limitless in both option and choiceâ feels hard to design for in a way that isnât too OP, even with the âbut where other large drawbacks often applyâ caveat. Mainly from like, the word âlimitlessâ interfering with my ability to tell what restrictions are reasonable.
âŚalthough. The subtypes areât meant to be strict in-universe guidelines; I could just rebalance it based on ideas from other Trump power types that I find easier to conceptualize and itâd be fine even if itâs not âobjectively correctâ for the Infinity type.
Heck even if I felt that need to strongly justify it, the situation fits pretty close to triggers for the âFourâ subtype (power sets that are limited to a few usually weaker/clunkier power options). His parents were obsessive tinkers; powers would have been a factor influencing his life for a while.
Also, outside of Trump power stuff, a Breaker state would make sense to fit closer in line to his ghostly nature from the show. Not 100% sure if thatâd fit his trigger, but whatever. Maybe could just argue that the portal mucked with his senses/thoughts enough to justify an intertwined mental aspect of the event, idk.
âŚoh I just had an idea for what the actual power could be!
What if he has to be in his breaker state to use powers, and he can only select which powers to use at the moment of transformation? Meaning he has to choose his powers before he enters any fights and likely stick with just them for the duration of that fight.
Limits could be imposed based on what he chooses (e.g. if his powers are weaker the more he has active) and how he switches back and forth (heâd have to deactivate all of his powers to swap any out and maybe he has to recharge them before he can access them again, leaving him vulnerable in the meantime).
Might want to limit his power options too (unless just limiting the strength of the powers would be enough), but idk what a good rule for that would be. Like it could just be an arbitrary list of options I guess, but something more distinctive might be interesting. Maybe he has to experience something similar to a power before he can use it? Idk.
âŚwould ideally want to make it mirror his trauma somehow too, because powers like doing that. Making the transformation reminiscent of the portal could be a good start, but idk if thereâd be anything else.
Also, outside of his powers, Iâm not fully sure how one could best work in an equivalent to the ghost fights from the show. Like they could absolutely just be other capes in Amity Park, but I feel like itâd be cool to connect them to Danny or the portal somehow.
For some possible ideas for that, I guess:
They could have been in a cluster trigger with Danny (as long as the other triggers could be reasonably justified to have coincided with the portal activation)
The portal could have let some Eden material leak through, causing some people in the area to randomly gain powers (and probably mutations too) after consuming anything contaminated
If the portal is a unique phenomenon (e.g. if the straight-up Ghost Zone is included on top of the Worm stuff), the Shards could be incentivized to create more triggers in the area or prod existing hosts towards Amity Park to create more conflict and help them study it
If the portal leads to another world (or periodically connects to multiple other worlds), they could just be âregularâ capes but pulled through from there
It wouldnât be related to that portal incident, but if Vlad Masters was a power-granting Trump (akin to Worm/Wardâs Teacher), the ghost-analogues could be his empowered minions sent after the Fentons
âŚor they could just still be ghosts I guess, but Iâm trying to lean this more on the Worm side of worldbuilding things than DP.
And some even more one-off random thoughts:
The GIW would just be a government-backed group akin to the PRT. Heck they could just be replaced by the literal PRT and Protectorate if itâs meant to be a full-on fusion with Earth Bet
If the portal is causing Eden material to leak through, Amity Park might end up evacuated/made into a quarantine site.
Instead of being given tech by Vlad like in the show, Valerie Grayâs situation could be reworked into a trigger event, with her probably being a vigilante afterwards (like as opposed to joining an actual hero team). Or if you wanted to keep the âgiven powersâ thing in a slightly more directly parahuman-y way, she could get a Cauldron vial (maybe one supplied by Vlad to keep more similarity with the show). (though that would require including Cauldron in the fic too, at least in the background)
Skulker could be a Deviant/Case 53 who is similar to Trainwreck
I guess the implication of Fenton Works existing would be that Jack and Maddie are rogues who are open about their identities
Which could connect to why Danny is hiding his powers from them - unlike the original show, he has no reason to fear them taking the reveal badly, but he could want to keep his cape and civilian identities fully separate and thus not want to tell them lest they reveal it to the public
do you think anything interesting would come of a worm/irredeemable crossover?
You know, shame of shame, I have yet to actually finish reading Irredeemable. I committed to trying to get the entire thing in print instead of going to the usual.... alternative venues, but it's actually not in print anymore; I have to hunt. Do not respond to this with the assumption that I've read the entire series.
That said? Yes. Very much so. Mark Waid's writing frequently draws upon the same impulse that drives Worm; the focus on the social entropy caused by appending outsized power to random joes, Extremely mechanically specific powers that aren't doing what they appear to do, the focus on messaging and branding and carving out a conceptual niche within the scene, the idea of spoken and unspoken "controls" on superhuman behavior that erode, causing chaos; the idea that, even at it's most idealistic, all of this is kind of riding for disaster by its very nature. You could slide a lot of characters from Incorruptible in particular into the Wormverse without batting an eye.
And of course, I haven't touched upon the obvious, namely that Irredeemable is a wonderful parallel to Gold Morning. To strip the nuance out of a couple different series real quick- Gold Morning is about what happens when it turns out Superman was running off genuinely alien psychology that just happened to align with human ideas of heroism; Invincible is about what happens when Superman was secretly sitting on a legible-to-human-understanding but evil worldview and finally drops the act. But Irredeemable is about Superman going postal- snapping under the human strain of being Superman and making that the whole world's problem. It's a much more personal betrayal, in no small part because of all the evidence we're constantly given that he really was unironically the world's greatest hero, both in spite of and because of the countless layers of human trauma bubbling under the surface. He really did try! He really did try to live in the human world, and he couldnât hack it. And this is why Iâm really pulling for an Ireedeemable adaptation before the bottom finally falls out of the superhuman boom; itâs a take on Superman-gone-wrong that really hasnât been poked at or unpacked in anything high-profile. Homelander comes closest, but heâs also predicated on never having been either sincere or effective. Â
splatoon is about a post-apocalyptic civilization of shapeshifting sea life engaged in the pursuit of violence as a form of art/competition/performance, locked in an endless but largely-invisible war against a subterranean species of octopi who have to steal bio-electricity-making fish to power their decaying domed homeland
Okay I think I see the crossover potential when you spell it out like that, yeah
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(See, I told everyone I was still working on these)
After being marooned in Amphibia in 2013 in the aftermath of Gold Morning, Taylor Hebert has spent seven years as a cautiously-tolerated mercenary exterminator. Drifting around the outskirts of amphibian society, she uses her partially-recovered power as an "I win" button against the predatory insect megafauna threatening the outlying settlements Newtopia doesn't give a shit about, using the remains of her costume to obfuscate her species during business transactions. Her semi-comfortable rhythm of monster-hunting, self-flagellation, bitter loneliness and occasional shopping trips is upended in year seven by rumors of creatures loose on the continent who apparently look a lot like her; out of a combination of paranoia, curiosity, grief, and loneliness, she resolves to look into the sightings to see if parahumans from Earth Bet are still after her ass.
The three humans in question are parahumans; they aren't from Earth Bet, and they weren't parahumans before they got to Amphibia. By entering Amphibia with an active shard connection, Taylor inadvertently led other free-floating, now-off-the-rails passengers into the dimension. both the Amphibians and the local wildlife have been developing powers in small numbers, though not in sufficient numbers to overshadow the already rampant deathworld fuckery, and not with a high survival rate.
It's in this context that Anne and Sasha undergo a two-person cluster-trigger during the season one finale at Toad Tower; Marcy triggers sometime in season two.
Anne, floored by her friendship with Sasha abruptly collapsing, struggling in the moment to live up to her own self-appointed role as community protector, triggers with a changer primary and a thinker secondary. She has Gallant-style emotion-vision that allows her to perceive the general perceptions and opinions that others hold towards her; her changer power allows her to tap those perceptions, with varying degrees of intensity, to fuel mutations that allow her to live up to the expectations of observers.
Sasha, doubly floored by the degree to which she's misjudged Anne and her ability to control her, feeling as though she has no choice but to commit to a confrontation lest she look weak, triggers with a Thinker primary and a changer secondary. Sasha is a bargain-bin Tattletale; she has the ability to intuit what people want, immediately and broadly, and (depending on her shard's happiness with her) gets some idea of what she would need to say to turn those desires towards her own ends. Her changer secondary causes subdermal musculature alterations and reinforcements in her upper body whenever she feels like her social position is being jeopardized, with a particular eye towards increasing grip strength.
Marcy, reeling from her canonical guilt at engineering the situation, feeling lonely and isolated, and comparatively well-informed about powers due to her connections to the Newtopian Government, ends up undergoing a master trigger event that's heavily flavored by her realization that her friends underwent a cluster trigger that she wasn't part of. Marcy's power allows her to summon facsimiles of Anne and Sasha, which start out extremely true-to-life in both appearance and mannerisms but rapidly degenerate on both fronts the longer they remained summoned, gradually taking on aesthetic characteristics sourced from whatever media Marcy's been thinking about a lot recently, and bottoming out psychologically as the unconvincing Yes-men seen in the core dreamworld. Not coincidentally, the facsimiles also become more powerful as they undergo this degeneration, picking up minor powers and becoming stronger, faster and harder to put down. To add insult to injury, the facsimiles become extremely difficult to summon when Anne and Sasha are actually present, meaning that Marcy is handicapped should she ever attempt to rejoin the group.
After consulting the sagelike advice of @ameliadallon, the broad outline of a plot is as follows;
Taylor first encounters Marcy sometime in season 1, either when both of them simultaneously show up to troubleshoot the same monster, OR when Marcy is sent by Andrias to troubleshoot Taylor due to Taylorâs vigilantism presenting an unknown and delegitimizing element (sheâs taking care of problems Newtopia doesnât give a shit about.) Marcy and Taylor have one of those initial-misunderstandings-ultimately-resulting-in-a-teamup situations; Taylor comes extremely close to partnering up with Marcy for the long term, but gets driven away by the red flags hung from every corner of Andriasâs castle and a growing conviction that she doesnât have the charisma necessary to convince Marcy that Andrias is playing her. One other important beat- and another major contributing factor to Taylor deciding to leave Marcy to it- is that Marcy is notably able to intuit from the sparce details Taylor provides that she probably used to be a superhero, and her over-enthusiastic prying into the details of Taylorâs past life drives Taylor up the wall, nearly to the point of breakdown.
Taylor next runs into Sasha circa early season 2, after the toad tower debacle; Sasha, with her newfound thinker power, is quick to exploit Taylorâs antipathy for the Newtopian government to try and turn her towards her incipient coup, but is also cagey enough about why sheâs on the outs with the government to raise Taylorâs suspicions. Taylor, for her part, is equally-suspiciously cagey about who she is, how she got to Amphibia, and how sheâs controlling the bugs; sheâs also got enough lived experience that Sasha reads as the unholy amalgamation/second coming of Lisa AND Emma simultaneously, and she pretty quickly cottons on to the fact Sasha is leveraging a social-thinker power in order to try and manage her. After a short-lived partnership in which both parties are trying to surreptitiously pump the other for information, they break ranks when Sasha crosses the line in some as-of-yet-undefined way, possibly involving treating her subordinates as tools in a way Taylor resolved to stop doing at the end of GM. Taylor strikes out in search of the third Human in the hopes that this one goes more reasonably.
Iâm out of specific plot beats at this point. But the interesting thing about a Taylor Hebert/Anne Boonchuy dynamic is that Anne, fundamentally, is a moral sponge and a people pleaser, thrown into the company of another human with a kind of perspective that doesnât really exist in the principle cast of Amphibia. Everyone Anne takes cues from in canon, for good or Ill, is either a native whoâs inured to the horrors of Amphibian society (the Plantars) or an outsider undergoing a similar trial-by-fire as her. Taylor, having gone through a full 3-act character arc already, offers a cynicism and utilitarian knot-cutting brutality that would have advantages and disadvantages for Anne. On the one hand, Taylorâs knee-jerk suspicion of authority would be a very useful framework to adopt given the raw volume of backbiting maniacs Anne blithely stumbles across in canon; on the other hand, Anneâs brushed-upon-in-canon Atlas-complex-in-the-face-of-the-end-of-the-world would get unimaginably worse with Taylor around to give her pointers.
One provisional plot-point I had kicking around in the back of my head- at the end of season 2, when they get portaled back to LA, the LA they end up in is on post-GM Earth Bet, complete with Bohu-death traps and eternally-tortured Jack Slash; from there, There Is A Reckoning, as the party has no way of returning to Amphibia without the resources of cape groups that have good reason to see Taylor dead.
(Credit as well to @i-sell-nightmares, who contributed on the powers.)
Iâve written the vague outline for this one here- in short, itâs a setting fusion where the events of Animorphs happened mostly as in canon with some adjustments until Scion abruptly intervened in the final battle (possibly at Kevin Nortonâs direction, as with the Endbringers, possibly because he actually gives a shit about the alien invasion.) As a result, the principle cast all survive into their twenties, sporadically active alongside the growing cape scene in a world that now knows about aliens.Â
(âShedâ referring to A.) The conditional collapse of the masquerade, B.) mass gained and lost in z-space while morphing, C.) The animorphs failed attempts to abandon their worldsaving and return to a life of normalcy even when a deus ex machina is handed to them at the eleventh hour and D.) I think insects shed sometimes. Metamorphosis or molting or something? That sounds right.)