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Tangled stans trying to do not sound creepy: Challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
It was reply to that tweet pointing out the creepy dream age gap
The person who critisized it got harrased, bullied like "You are 19 and play Genshin, of course you are mentaly ill", "Touch grass", "Younger generation is soo sensitive". Tangled stans are worse than Digital Circus fandom and that's the fact.
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I don’t know if you watched dreamworks sinbad but if you watched it, you can see that Flynn is basically a ripoff of sinbad. They have the same personality and looks. The only difference between them is that sinbad is actually attractive and isn’t a totally creep like Flynn is.
Disney was ripping off every Dreamworks movie for this one.
OMG I REMEMBER SINBAD!!!! I used to actually be scared of eris as a kid but now I find her extremely entertaining and pretty (especially her hair) and it’s a WAY better movie than tangled could ever dream to be
yeah sinbad is a lot like flynn, except flynn is the Walmart cheap version of sinbad. also sinbad has more of a character arc and interesting personality that actually accept the fact that his actions has consequences as seen by him returning to be executed despite eris trying to claim otherwise.
while i cant say i agree with all of your tangled takes, i do find them very interesting to read. and also, its funny bc a lot of your critques about rapunzel are the same ones i have about jasmine. specifically, her being a walking plot device, and her movie having her prince as the main character instead of herself (i mean the movie is titled aladdin after all, not jasmine). its why i say aladdin is technically the worst disney princess movie lol
Warning: I talk about infantilization and sexualization
Very interesting, I was recently actually thinking a lot about how T//angled took cues and arcs from Aladdin in it's character setups. For example, Aladdin is about, well like you said, Aladdin! It makes sense the story would start with him and focus on him.
The tale of Aladdin has him as the main character, while Jasmine is secondary (or, if you think about it, Genie takes more prominence after Aladdin, so maybe third?). The reason the whole "disney princess not as the main character in her movie" kinda works for Aladdin is because it's about him.
Ta//ngled is a fairytale derived from the story of Rapunzel. It's not "Eugene/Flynn Rider." And the fact that Flynn Rider is treated as a main character nearly the same way Aladdin is, doesn't work as well and it relegates the actual main character to a plot device. And I can't deny that while Jasmine has a strong conviction, and values, she is subject to being a damsel in distress for a lot of the movie and it can be very off putting.
I do like Jasmine as a character, and I do I appreciate that she was there for me as one the three princesses of color I had when there just weren't any black princesses growing up.
But there's definitely a lot to criticize about Jasmine's role, and how this plays into the racist stereotypes of the movie and how it uses it's setting.
Like Rapunzel, Jasmine is subject to uncomfortable framing. Her sexualization is creepy and exploitative. Rapunzel's infantilization is also creepy and weird. But I wouldn't necessarily call them identical, they're different due to being a result of portraying stereotypes about girls of color and cultural idealization of white women/girls as more innocent and purer than them.
I find it pretty fascinating how parts of the Tangled fandom act like forgiveness is bad or a sort of weakness, but holding eternal grudges and resentment towards someone is actually good or a healthy response. Look I get that the 3rd season is filled with writing and execution flaws and that a lot of things should’ve definitely gone differently. I’m someone who absolutely believes that Cass’s redemption was so badly handled and almost non-existent. I’m someone who definitely wanted to see her have a well-executed and sincere redemption besides the rushed, poorly executed one in the finale. But whether we like it or not, Cass was technically redeemed. But the whole idea that Rapunzel and Eugene should never forgive her or just hold eternal grudges against her, or that she should’ve been punished even after after redeeming or be left to rot in prison? Like seriously?? And like forgiving someone doesn’t necessarily mean letting someone off the hook or pretending they did nothing wrong. There’s a difference between forgiving someone and forgetting what they did. Obviously nothing will be the same or what it once was before S3/Cass’s betrayal, but that doesn’t mean that she can’t grow from her faulty actions. And like just because Rapunzel and Eugene forgave her, it doesn’t mean they’ll forget what she did or that their relationship with her is unchanged. But as the Queen and Captain of Corona, it’s important to learn to show mercy, especially towards criminals. It’s more important to help redeem and change than to hold eternal grudges and show harsh punishment. Plus if there’s anything I’ve learned from my own personal experiences and having dealt with people who hurt me and never apologizing or even bothering to admit their wrongs, it’s that forgiveness may be hard and takes a while, but once you get there, it’s much more relieving than retaining anger. And that just because I forgive someone, it doesn’t mean I’ll forget their actions or not grow from certain experience. And another thing is, just because you dislike or hate someone, it doesn’t mean they’re some kind of literal devil who deserves to rot in hell, or that they’re unworthy of forgiveness or redemption.
Im on an art role tonight so im redesigning Madame Canardist because lord i did not enjoy her in canon. She's more of a mysterious witch-type character, and monkey demanitus has an iconic cloak i was talking about on discord. And heres the fun part; although she's still a con artist (life is tough on the road, she's gotta get money for food and supplies somewhere!) her magic is very much real and all her own. There's still some smoke and mirrors for dramatic affect, of course. Because who do you take her for? She can tell the future and read someones past with not much more than a wave of her hand. Her real name is Maria Canary, but she thought calling herself Canardist would be hilarious, so that way we still get the pun, except its meta. i still need to work out a few bumps, but so far i like my design and story for her.
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I finally watched episode 8 of tadc and I'm gonna say: Digital Circus made captivator who prisons/abuses his victim/s and is both funny/disturbing A LOT BETTER than Tangled (also because Caine was based on AM and not on Jewish stereotype like Gothel). Plus that TADC showed Ragatha's family abuse in few seconds way better than Tangled for the entire movie. Huge W for Goosework and Glitch.
the biggest cinematic crime of 2010 was that tangled got more recognition and praise than shrek forever after
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(Btw this is from fancylala but I’m using my main blog because I can’t send asks from a side blog.)
Am I the only one who thinks that Disney tried so hard to make Flynn so attractive that he looks boring? It’s the same thing with John smith. They both look like they gotten way too much plastic surgery and it makes them look inhuman.
Naveen and Aladdin are way more good looking than both of those basic creepy guys.
honestly yeah. Especially with Flynn, they tried to make him “hot” in terms of the 2010s so people could ignore the very creepy age gap between him and rapunzel. I honestly love him in his concept art more: him as a more “buff” guy who actually has a heart of gold without being a creepy womanizer is the type of man that I would actually be charmed by tbh.
