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I’ll be honest. I do believe that some form of “ plurality “ outside of CDDs and medical context exists. I really do. My issue with endogenics and nondisordered systems is the fact that they present almost identically to that of CDDs despite their claims to not have the disorder and that their experiences are different.

If you claim to be so different, why demand our spaces? Why use the same medical terminology that is used to refer to CDDs and trauma survivors?

If you claim to be so different, why do you cry ableism and “sysmed” when you spread blatant misinformation on a serious medical disorder?

If plurality exists outside of a medical frame, then it would not present in the way that disordered plurality does. It never will. After all, Why would Something non medical present in a medical manner?

Not to mention the concept of nondisordered plurality in the way it presents was rooted with the intent of mocking CDDs and creating a movement that was attempting to test the legitimacy of CDDs as a disability and trying to take it off of the DSM; but that’s for another time.

I am open to RESPECTFUL discussion on either side. Harassment towards me or other people interacting with this blog will result in a block, regardless if anti or not.

It's just really nice to have a space where I can consider either possibility and know that it doesn't invalidate my plurality to do so. Thank you <3

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It seems like you've stumbled into "system discourse", friend. I'm sorry you had to deal with that. You should not have to be interrogated about this when you're seeking community with other disabled people.

We believe plurality, the experience of being more than one, exists in many different forms. Some are disordered, some are natural, some are adaptive, some are spiritual, some are cultural... you get the idea. We accept everyone.

Some people however believe that there's only one way to be plural / a system. They believe in a strict medical model where you need to have a specific dissociative disorder, or you are 'faking' / lying. They believe any deviation from an unified self is by necessity an illness. They try to deny many plural people and systems the ability to define their own identities and experiences.

A lot of them do it because they are hurt, suffering, and lashing out, often repeating misconceptions they've heard others spread before. They can be very hostile about this, as you've experienced.

quit hiding behind an anon if you're going to bitch lmfao

also i never claim to have a disorder, you anti-endos need to understand that the human brain is more complex than just "oh any oddities are caused by a disorder!1!1!1!1"

even the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION accepts my existence, that should say something

in the icd-11 under "boundary with normaility (threshold)" it states "The presence of two or more distinct personality states does not always indicate the presence of a mental disorder." and uses spiritual and cultural plurality as an example, note the wording it uses has "e.g", which implies there's more examples than just those, but either way those are the easiest forms of plurality for you assholes to understand

(screenshot for further evidence of this point, but you can look in the icd yourself)

again, this is the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION saying this. You know, an agency of the united nations?

disorders can also be influenced by genetics, not only that but plurality isn't just from complex dissociative disorders, BPD can cause a plural identity, that's just to name one (also from the icd-11)

disorders are a collection of symptoms, not "oh yeah you can only get this if you have a very specific disorder!1!"

disorders overlap a LOT with other disorders