#sbm asks

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I think that they’re definitely both going to slowly navigate towards more normal clothing (Dryl’s coolth in mind) but take some time and eventually diverge to show their individuality.

Wrong Hordak has the easier time of the two, already having practice defying in other ways and generally having less trauma with expressing himself. I can see him quickly finding new stuff to wear.

Considering the weather in Dryl (which I assume he lives in), I can 100% see him gravitating towards sweaters and hoodies, especially with bright colors and designs. He might even learn to knit and make some for himself (they’re generally good but sometimes the designs he makes are a tad more abstract than intended). He ends up using the brightest of colors and standing out amongst the relatively dark castle and the white snow and it’s very cute! Wrong Hordak values comfort and self expression in clothing.

Hordak is gonna have a bit of a harder time altogether adjusting with everything, clothes being one of them. Like his hair, makeup, and general self-expression, he needs to ease back into them. Entrapta is there to help him through it of course but it takes time.

And then there’s the matter of his defect. He always wore armor to protect and hide himself, but when living with Entrapta, neither of those are of concern anymore (he’s hidden and very safe in her maze of a home). Now he has to let himself trust that fact, which will take time to fully accept. Hordak was tormented by fear so long that comfort will be uneasy to recognize, as much as he loves her. It’s an odd concept to him that he’s somewhere he doesn’t need to constantly watch out and shield himself from harm. I think he still wears stronger clothing and maybe even armor when he leaves Dryl but eventually he ebbs from the protective but unnecessary layers.

Unlike Wrong Hordak, Hordak values efficiency and subtlety in his clothing. He wants to be able to move as freely as possible and blend into his surroundings rather than be seen. We already know he leans towards dramatic dark clothing, and I think he’ll return to that but with the adjustment of armor not being necessary anymore. He might return to his dress (i know it isn’t a dress but yk what I mean), but change to long sleeved shirts on top that allow him to move around without strain. He’ll still favor darker colors but eventually admit he’s expressing some individuality through them by playing with personality and gender. And he also has Dryl’s colder climate to consider so he’ll have to use jackets as well.

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I was wondering about #1, #11, #17, #23, and #24!

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Hiii! How could I resist lol it’s appreciation month for my boys! Spacebats! I also wanted to say thank you again for taking the time to organize these, it’s really amazing and we appreciate you so much 🫶

And ye, am excited to see all the new spacebat content on my feed! And on my birthday month no less! Lik a present :3

Anyway, for the asks :)

1.) Was Hordak Horde Prime's general, and if so, how did that happen?

In all honesty, I’m very open to interpretation on this because there is a lot of room for multiple theories to be true.

My gut instinct is no, at least not in the way Hordak believed it to be. He may have had some very minor pull in other ways, maybe he ran a small ship for a while, or was in charge of receiving higher orders personally, but I can’t see him being a general in the way he thinks he was. He was also young, so if he did have any power it’d likely be randomly assigned rather than any sort of climbing the ranks.

There could’ve been multiple reasons he believed he was a general, like Prime tricking him into thinking that before killing him (messing with his memories in almost a merciful way? So he could die thinking he was something? Not very in character for Prime but a possibility) or it’s entirely possible he just lied to himself or was genuinely confused about his position.

One headcanon I’ve heard and particularly like (for le angst) is that Hordak was randomly chosen to be Prime’s next body. That would give him an indication of power and perhaps he did even complete tasks like planning battles to prep himself/his body, and who knows if Prime ever even told him the true reason. This also could’ve been how Prime found out about the defect, during some sort of routine examination while Hordak’s body was being converted to make room for Prime. I imagine whatever was being done didn’t help our boy’s chronic pain either…

11.) Do you think Wrong Hordak will change his name, and if so, what do you think it is?

Hot take (?), not really? I see two possibilities but mainly probably not.

Obviously the famous fan-invented name Kadroh is cute, it grew on me after a while. I see it more as a nickname though. Maybe some closer friends/family call him by it, maybe almost everyone, but his legal name would stay Wrong Hordak. He would be comfortable being called either but I have this image in my head if it being his nickname with everyone were the case of him and Imp screwing up BAD and Entrapta—who also calls him Kadroh or other nicknames—goes “WRONG HORDAK.” and it’s like your mom calling you your full name 😭💀

I can also just see Wrong Hordak being his typical name. He doesn’t see anything wrong with it, even after meeting Hordak. He completely understands that it was a joke at first, but to him, it fits! He is the wrong Hordak, he wasn’t Hordak! It makes sense! I also think a small part of him likes to keep that momento to Hordak, who I believe he looks up to. He doesn’t see the “Wrong” part of it meaning wrong, necessarily, more so being named after someone, like a Junior.

I think regardless, he’d at least keep Wrong Hordak partially, because he likes that name and doesn’t see anything wrong with it :)

17.) How would you rank Hordak, Wrong Hordak, Imp, and Horde Prime from favorite to least favorite (or vice versa, depending on how you want to list them, and why?

Hi sorry lemme be basic but honest

#1 My blorbo Hordak :3

He’s just he’s everything to me. I hated him at first for years then after rewatch and rewatch he slowly crawled his way into my heart and became one of my favorite characters of all time and I admire the dedication. Just everything about him honestly (cutting this fairly short so I don’t yap about him too long lol), his character arc is meaningful and beautiful, his design and the way it changes to reflect him is amazing, I love the deeper darker parts of his past that we glance by, and just the way his entire story breathes life into the larger one. He’s the one we think won’t be able to change or make it out and then he does. The “I am Hordak!” scene? Shivers. Every time. Keston John freaking nailed his entire performance as all the characters he voiced in the show, but you can tell he went the extra mile for Hordak (GRAY SHUT UP ABOUT HORDAK) uh uhm anyway

#2 Wrong Hordak

I am not immune to Wrong Hordak and you shouldn’t be either. He stole all of our hearts and refused to give them back and no one is upset. Look at his big ol ears he didn’t mean it he’s just a lil guy.

I love seeing his arc (even though it could’ve been taken more seriously) because it gives you glimpses into the horror that is Horde Prime and what the Spacebats suffer through behind and beyond everyone else. While he spends most of his time being the cutiest patootie, he just drops some of the most horrifying lines (“How will Prime see my thoughts? How will he know I am faithful?” and “Facial expression is a privilege reserved only for Prime.” for a couple that pop into my mind. Scary stuff).

But he also shows change and growth, and that escape is possible. And I love him bonding with Entrapta. They’re so mother-son to me and I love her seeing Hordak in him and recognizing that he’s his own person, and helping him to have a better start. Your honor I love my boy.

#3 Imp

He’s perfect what do you mean.

I love him with Hordak and how much you can tell they genuinely adore each other. It shows Hordak’s softer side way before he gets the chance to truly show it. And Imp is just the best. He’s chaos incarnate as a toddler. Etheria is not ready for teenage Imp.

Enough said Imp is Imp he’s baby and I’d kill fof him. Only issue I see is not nearly enough screen time.

#4 Horde Prime

To be absolutely clear, I love all of these characters and it was hard to rank them. Just because he’s the lowest does not mean I dislike him, he’s just less in my brain than the others.

Prime is an amazing villain in that he just feels like everything. There is no escape because everything is already Prime. He’s so much larger than anything the first four seasons can comprehend. Literally thousands of years more advanced. It feels realistic because yeah, in real life, an empire with millennia of space travel and advancements would just steamroll any small planets. He makes me genuinely uneasy (positive, that’s his job) and you know exactly what he’s here to do. The way he lowers himself to speak down to people and just ignores most conversations because you can tell he’s been through all this before just strikes a sense of fear into me I can’t discribe. He could’ve had a bit more development but he did his job and well.

[hi its me so i never really know what characterization means in terms of ‘popular headcanons’ or ‘canon bits’ so I’m using a very loose definition of the word im sorry if i misunderstand the question okay? Okay.]

23.) What's your favorite characterization of Hordak, Wrong Hordak, Imp, and Horde Prime?

Hordak:

The quiet moments. The silence he had with himself away from the viewer and away from the world. All he was implied to have experienced that we can’t get to see. His life before, his rejection from Prime, his arrival to Etheria, his first breaths away from the hive mind, his decision to build the Etherian Horde, adopting Imp, the quiet moments he had alone in his sanctum, wondering about life. I wish we could see it but it’s beautiful that we didn’t in a way. His life has been alone. Those bits are private, silent, untouched. Like an undisturbed relic left alone by time.

But uh but in less poetic terms.

I enjoy how much of an introvert he can be and how the fans depict that. He prefers to spend his time alone, and I think in the end he got such a beautiful life with Entrapta. He doesn’t need to face the world and how harsh it’s been to him, be forced to see the atrocities he regrets but doesn’t remember. Hordak can hide away from the world and have his perfect, cherished private, shared with his sons and the love of his life. He’s finally happy in Dryl and he deserves that rest. The quiet moments alone don’t torment him any more. They’re the ones that remind him of his survival, as he walks the halls of the Crypto Castle, ears twitching as his wife zooms overhead in a vent, Imp curled up on his shoulder, hand tracing the dark halls where no one can reach to hurt him anymore.

He finds peace of mind knowing that his worries are over, and now in the quiet, his mind quiets too.

Wrong Hordak:

He helps the other spacebats discover their individualities and becomes a mentor to a lot of them. He takes it upon himself to guide them away from Prime and into the sunlight he’s learned all about. He makes them food and helps them find their names and tells them all about how many things they can do now. I loooove seeing art/fics/takes on this.

Also he’s legally adopted by Entrapta I will die on that hill and it’s my favorite characterization. He takes after his mama and I like to think he dyes his hair purple post-Prime.

Imp:

I love how affectionate he can be with Hordak, he’s literally baby.

Also, love the headcanon that he finds a way to communicate without just repeating. Anything really works. Sign language, speech therapy, or a device Entrapta invents to help him speak for himself. I want him to be able to express himself further :33

Horde Prime:

I already touched on this but to reiterate: how he feels like he’s more than everything. He is higher and surrounds every aspect of season five and it’s so powerful. He views himself as a God and it shows in how he’s portrayed. The fandom also does a wonderful job of showing the enormousity that his reach through wonderful symbolism in their fanart!

24.) What's your least favorite characterization of Hordak, Wrong Hordak, Imp, and Horde Prime?

Hordak:

Any sort of ‘he’s abusive’, ‘he doesn’t understand emotion/regret what he’s done’, or ‘he should’ve had worse repercussions’. When I hear stuff like that it makes me genuinely wonder if I watched the same show as the people saying that. Like…no? I’ve also seen a lot of people say he’s one dimensional and just a boring minor villain and buddy what show did you watch??? He’s a complex and incredibly emotionally interesting character. He goes through hardship and understands what he’s done and has been tortured and has learned the better side of life and changed.

Also personal opinion but I really dislike takes that he’s super old/that clones age differently. I just think it makes Entrapdak feel weird. He’s late twenties to mid thirties to me.

Wrong Hordak:

A lot of people characterize him as Hordak’s replacement and it actually makes my blood boil a little. He’s treated like the new Hordak and used to shove Hordak’s story aside.

It’s annoying because one of the central parts to his character is clones learning that they can be their own person.

Stop making him someone else.

Wrong Hordak is not Hordak’s replacement. Hordak’s arc was not stolen by Wrong Hordak. They are different.

They’re both unique characters and neither has to replace the other. They can live in tandom. It frustrates me when that’s pushed aside in favor of “ooh, no more problematic Hordak, we have a fresh and better one!” No? He’s his own person, please acknowledge that.

Also, he isn’t a bumbling idiot. He’s a bit behind and thinks differently due to his programming, but don’t act like he’s just a prop or someone that needs to be treated differently. Eegh.

Also also, saw a take once that he’d absolutely hate Hordak and would punch him if they ever met??? Nope.

Imp:

Once again, Imp is perfect and has done nothing wrong in his life not once ever.

Only problem I have with how people view him is when people say he should stay with Kyle, Rogelio, and Lonnie. That’s just such an unsatisfying end to me? He’s shown to genuinely care for Hordak and that’s very reciprocated. I don’t think he’d be happy just being ripped away from that. Let my boy terrorize Dryl. He can be Prince Imp and live happily with Entrapdak and cause more chaos there and it’s where he’s meant to be.

Horde Prime:

Might be a hot take.

Very much dislike how over-sexualized he can get sometimes? I understand that it is an intentional part of his character, both as he is a cult leader and definitely hurts his clones in a weird way, and as the audience, we are supposed to pick up on it, but I think the whole point is that we’re supposed to be uncomfortable? It’s meant to be part of his power and fear factor, and I completely understand some people thinking he’s attractive but sometimes it takes away from his overall story/characterization when he becomes “sexy evil guy” rather than the horror he is. Wish a couple times the show had leaned a tad lighter on that lol

Thanks for the asks! Hope you enjoyed reading these because it took me an hour and a half to write them down coherently—

I took a break from tumbly for like a while

did you transition/ change your username??

(genuinely asking)(I hope this doesn't come across as rude)

Aw thanks! I’m v glad to hear that you enjoyed it the years we had it going.