#pro bal

Because you can't unhear/see Mal saying "I don't know what love feels like" and Ben responding with "Maybe I can teach you"….

You can't unsee Ben risking his life for Mal and Mal being willing to doom the kingdom for Ben….

You can't unsee Mal running into Ben's arms in D3 like he's the only person that matters….

Descendants fans, hear me out.

Descendants: The Rise of Red introduces the concept of multiple timelines - that one key event can change a whole future. We see two timelines within the same film. This means other timelines exist. Timelines where one event happened differently that caused a domino effect.

APART FROM the love spell, I'm not seeing any behaviour that could be called toxic. Neither Mal nor Ben do anything against the others consent. Heck, she STOPS him kissing her during, Did I Mention. SO THAT nothing HAPPENS without Ben's full free consent. Ben respects Mal saying 'no'/rejecting his advances twice during the movie. One, even in the midst of the love spell. Absolutely nothing physical happened between them while the other could not fully consent.

And okay, I can see arguments coming about the fight in D2. While I acknowledge that some actions, there, could have been better. Mal immediately takes responsibility for it. She feels so guilty that she leaves. BOTH Mal and Ben were stressed and did something wrong there. Mal should not have tried to use the memory spell. Ben shouldn't have raised his voice at her. Furthermore, every couple will have at least one fight while together. You cannot use that as toxicity when it is a natural happening in relationships. Even if this particular fight felt really out of character for Ben and Mal.

Even when Ben breaks up with her. Mal doesn't act in any way that could be considered toxic. Mal doesn't scream at Ben. Or refuse to accept his apparent wishes. She doesn't try to physically hurt him. Or threaten something Ben cares about to get him to stay with her. She just quietly removes herself.

So please explain to me exactly HOW Bal is toxic once they're in a proper relationship?

I am not just saying this as a Bal and Huma shipper who just wants my ships. I am thinking from a realistic standpoint.

All Uma ever wanted if she got off the Isle was to SAIL with her crew. She wanted FREEDOM to BE an actual pirate and to see the world.

I'm not saying that Uma would be a bad High Queen. On the contrary, she'd probably be a very good one. She was pretty much ruling the Isle stably in D2 in Mal's absence

But even if Ben DIDN'T have Mal and wanted Uma. Uma would. Not. WANT. the stately, restricting sit at a desk job that being High Queen IS.

Maybe at first she would give it a shot. For example, in a situation where Mal didn't break the love spell in D2 straight away. Uma may have stayed with/dated Ben for a while. Thinking it would give her influence and the ability to help the Isle/make sure the Isle is not forgotten again. But in the end, being with Ben would suffocate her. They would last maybe a year at most before Uma broke it off.

She just cannot be the type of girl Ben needs no matter how much she would supposedly care for him. She just can't love him the way she loves Harry or the way Ben would need as a High King.