Dr Owens, Barb/Nancy and two tapes-memories in one: Jonathan and Nancy were not together in the Lab
(the Shutter Island, The Truman Show and Fight Club)
Do you remember a theory that Hawkins got flayed in the end of season 2? I believe we have corrupted memories earlier (most likely from the very beginning of the show, but thatâs story for another time). Letâs check this one out.
The first thing that stood out to me was this shot:
Dr Owens opens the door, and the scientist starts âworkingâ immediately. He was not working, when the door opened, he started at the same moment. This jumped out at me as if it was staged, and no one was indeed working there until Nancy and Jonathan entered the room. It gave The Truman Show immediately, and I rewatched the whole sequence⊠a dozen times.
The sequence starts with this shot:
Here we see just Jonathan, and it would be fine, if only I didnât feel weird by the way the next shot separates Jonathan from Nancy: we see just him in the mirror, which is okay for thing angle, but something still feels off⊠For example, the fact that Jonathan in the mirror is not Jonathan in the room. The mirror is fake!
You can see this clearly if you compare the way the chair is seen and Jonathanâs posture.
Then, this shot is followed by (what would you think) the surveillance camera shot đââïž where everything goes even wilder right away:
as much as I could dismiss Jonathanâs hands (the right one is on the left one, while in the shot before the left one was above) or Nancyâs bag (and its shoulder strap) changing position, we still have Jonathanâs posture on the left where he sits with his back against his backrest, while in the mirror itâs different again, but also!!!!
NANCY IS TRANSPARENT!
It looks like her image was put above Jonathanâs. Thereâs literally no explanation for this table to be seen at the same time we see Nancy. And besides, her image clearly differs from the whole shot. Meanwhile, the shot with Jonathan looks like he is alone there silently looking right into the camera.
My first theory was that Nancy is non-existent in this sequence whatsoever and this is only Jonâs memory, but some dialogues after made me reconsider this.
Anyways, then Owens suggest a walk, and Jonathan again doesnât match his reflection: staying right in front of the chair on this side, he stands very far in the mirror, and also close to the end of the table (although he moves synchronically).
They start walking, and here I caught The Truman Show vibes, when several people were turning around (as if they were curious actors), and The Shutter Island vibes bc, even though Owens addresses them both a couple of times, it still can be seen as if he was talking to only one of them for whom this spectacle is played. (+ Fight Club)
(fyi, George Sargon died on March 22nd, 1956)
Here I had a theory that Jonathan lost his mind after Willâs death, and Owens plays along to his fantasy that he investigates something with Nancy Wheeler, and everyone knows whatâs happening and thatâs why they turn around.
But is the corridor walk Jonathanâs memory?
The wording âyour brother and Ms. Hollandâ⊠Whose brother? Did anything happened to Mike? Why does it sound like he speaks to just one person? And this person is Nancy⊠Imagine, that sheâs alone: he speaks of Mike, or Barbara, then:
âYou guys been together long?â âWe (we)re not together.â âWanna see what really killed your friend?â
It could be about Jonathan and Will, but then Barb stands out and I barely see Jonathan and Barb as a possibility⊠but who knows atp. My bet is Bancy though, with the hunch that here we witness two separate tapes and memories combined. Firstly, Jonathanâs, then Nancyâs. Corrupted memories by Brennerâs tapes?
Enjoy!
Iâll finish the post with this:
Consider the possibility that Jonathan in the mirror is Jonathan on the tape, the hands actually match⊠the fact that tape!Jonâs and real!Johnâs hands do not match can be just a production error (moreover, on the tape we can see a mirror too in the âcorrectâ place, not mirrored, so I might be wrong), but the idea of the mirrored reality seems curious.
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___________________________________________ tagging honey buns who were waiting for the post: @warmglowhc @wrathfulstarlightcavern @sorafyr3 @gritstartar @worldofsouthernwind @itswhatyougive ; @bbghostbones I meant the very last panel, but also I recommend you to check out George Sargon, I didnât find anything for my theories, briefly reading his biography, but it might be useful for you!
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he doesnât check on Will, he checks the results of the experiments theyâre doing on him
he doesnât assume, he promises
1+5+1+1 =8, a number of an illusion being cooked
the end of 2x02 after Will was in the lab:
later the phone rings, no one picks up
but what if it was important? and the call was from the Lab to warn them?
that something in the Lab went wrong?
leading to another âepisodeâ in the distance when Will is at home bc they injected something in his arm? (the hand hints to injecting, the nurse doesnât hold the syringe as if she was taking his blood for analysis)
so that after Will had a cozy evening with his family we end up in the surreal distant visual manipulation translated into his mind?
it probably wasnât done on purpose this time bc if the Lab wanted to manipulate Willâs mind in distance before, they couldâve done it a million times (could his episodes be caused by it?); however, the scientist is shocked that the machine goes crazy, and that is shown right after the call to the Byers, and right before Willâs vision when heâs alone again and in the UD.
we have also the close up on the clock face (is it 01:05? 1x05?), and the word âunitedâ is important for some reason. Willâs realities were united (Hawkins and the UD)? Or what was?