I will die on the hill that Nancy Wheeler had the most potential to have a coming out of the closet journey (not nearly as much as the canon queer characters tho)
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I will die on the hill that Nancy Wheeler had the most potential to have a coming out of the closet journey (not nearly as much as the canon queer characters tho)
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Idk why Mike is seen as this horribly repressed gay man when he's giving the straightest man I've seen in my life.
You know who doesn't, though? Nancy Wheeler.
She's had two bad boyfriends, one who was a stereotypical popular jerk, and the other who used to stalk her and overall didn't connect with her. Meanwhile her connection to Barb gave a hint of queercodedness and her friendship with Robin could've bloomed into something more....
AND THEY BOTH BROKE UP WITH THEIR PARTNERS THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PAIR THEM TOGETHER LIKE DAMN
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"nancy isn't queer in my eyes and i think that the idea that she is is projection. and most of the 'evidence' is just the fact that she breaks gender roles or wants to be treated a certain way in her relationships. it's very normal to date and then break up with two boyfriends in the span of five years. ronance really shouldn't be nearly as popular, people just change the characters to fit the dynamic they want. it's tiring honestly, they're just so boring as a pairing. and people totally ignore robin's girlfriend for some reason."
stop being lesbophobic, you just don't like strong women being gay and can't stand a fem lesbian. she was heavily implied to be lesbian. also vickie was such a nothingburger of a character and took advantage of robin
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Once again thinking about this bit from one way or another:
“'Nancy Wheeler? She’s little miss Hawkins. Smart girl. Good girl.'
There are three guns stashed in my bedroom right now, Nancy thought.”
She seems like your stereotypical girl next door, but she’s got this entire other world she’s entangled and involved in. She’s not what she seems on the surface. So much of her character is about rejecting the heteronormative picket fence nuclear family. I feel like realizing she’s queer would be such a natural progression for her character.
also really hit home by:
“You think I want that?… A boy, a wedding, a family. You think I want to be like you?”
Like what is the straight explanation for her even saying that? It’s one thing for her to list off a wedding and family as something she doesn’t want, but including a boy in that list? Girlie, what?
She's so queer coded its insane.
There’s something very interesting about Vecna forcing Nancy to watch as the vines in the Creel house strangle Robin during Piggyback. She could have been facing Steve, the guy she has a history with, but no she’s across from Robin. Especially with the editing choice of showing Nancy and then Robin getting strangled directly after as he’s talking about destroying Hawkins and then the world (Nancy’s world?). Nancy’s literally watching Robin die as Vecna monologues about destroying the world.
Vecna is cruel, he wants to hurt his victims. He wants to taunt them.
He’s been in her head, in her memories and in her thoughts and he knows.
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Barb is a key to ronance?
I’ve just had a revelation!
You know how Barb is being considered queer bc the UD is a metaphor of internalised homophobia where Will’s taken, and then Will and Billy are the MF’s hosts, and Billy represents Will, and then Holly is taken too, and Holly is Mike, and Mike is queer; and even Henry is probably queer if bobgate is real, and so on? (Does it mean that all 12 kids are also queer !!?? at least we had Derek representing byler, and Holly x Mary doing the same and and… but I digress)
And now when we had the connection that Barb could be Vecna’d, I’ve also started thinking about the shame she had experienced. Which is the same, internalised homophobia, right? Ig, I won’t be the first to assume that she had a crush on Nancy. And this is where I’ve just had an epiphany.
That as Nancy’s queer coding starts here, Barb’s possible influence on s5 can fr develop Nancy’s journey to her sexuality. We had wsqksync nodding at ronance, (which ngl made me doubt how trusted all the sync part can be as I’m not sure whether they’d go with multiple gay ships in the finale, but anyway the sync is there, take it or leave it), we had apparently (and for Camazotz suddenly) queercoded Nancy, and Robin had more vibes with her in that one scene than in all the episodes (s5) before. And as Nancy had this infinite guilt about Barb, and Barb will get back one way or another, ig it mb reconsidered somehow. Maybe Nancy never noticed or, better, ignored some hints from Barb, and Barb never went for it to clarify things with her, so Nancy was playing the good girl card and behaved the way she should’ve behaved from s1 perspective of her.
But as you know, s4 ronance vibed a lot, and if it all comes together after 5x08, there can happen hell of a twist. And I’m saying “twist” bc I’m still not sure if they’d go for it making at least two Wheelers openly queer (and there’s also Holly, right…): dgmw I would be all for it, it’s just I’m not sure that plot-wise it can happen, for me it looked like a good chemistry but maybe not a real endgame; I’d be happy to be wrong tho! (Same for Holly and Mary, if we’d get them in a spin-off or smth, they’re certainly a shipping material, but how possible it is that all three Wheeler siblings will be confirmed openly queer? Honestly, idk)
However, now when Nancy is single and definitely done with Steve, some opportunities might open:
if Nancy will acknowledge that “it isn’t her”:
So you’ll probably ask me: what was the epiphany if we all already knew that Barb was queer and we apparently saw Nancy’s queer-coding?
It was this all being connected through Barb not only bc she was taken to the UD the way queers are taken there, but also being Vecna’d for shame, and we’ve never known Barb enough to assume anything else aside from her relationship with Nancy and the apparent parallel with Will. And here’s where Nancy’s queer-coding takes place along with s4 ronance to complete the picture.
It’d be especially fruitful (the pun is not intended) to explore all that through the perspective of Mike’s queer journey (in which, I hope, Nancy will play her supportive sister role) but also maybe it’ll turn out ironically somehow the way I drafted my little Queerler siblings’ headcanon. Nevertheless, I expect Barb to play her part in anything upcoming whether she’d be just a ghost of Nancy’s past through stumbling on her in the UD, or mb she’ll even get back to life in another timeline. We’ll see.
So once again, they fr heavily referred to Ripley, constructing Nancy’s image, and want us to believe that she is not queer coded?
Okay sure
vickie is science + music smart
robin is language + tech smart
nancy is english + humanities smart
together they are unstoppable