no one is ever going to be able to convince me that the reason killua was standing & sitting backwards on the horse wasnât bc he was too nervous/embarrassed to hug onto gon from behind like that lmao.
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no one is ever going to be able to convince me that the reason killua was standing & sitting backwards on the horse wasnât bc he was too nervous/embarrassed to hug onto gon from behind like that lmao.

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i think about this shit everyday god i love togashi
I found it strange how certain fans donât apparently see the romantic undertone and chemistry between Gon and Killua, but yet still see can Killua as being gay.
Do you think itâs possible that those fans infantilize Gon by not viewing Gon being capable to understand romantic feelings?
Despite the fact that Gon is technically more experienced with those type of relationships compared to KilluaâŚ
I think youâre right, some fans do infantilize Gon a lot (or demonise him). But there is more to why heâs not perceived as gay or why his feelings are not so well noticed.
The most obvious as to why they donât want to see Gonâs quite obvious feelings towards Killua is the expectation of Gon being straight just by virtue of being a shounen manga protagonist. Those guys do not engage in romance usually, and if they do itâs very much in the background or played for laughs. There will just be âand they were all straightâ time skip ending.Â
Based on my observations of the two fandoms Iâm a part of, there are a lot of fans who come into stories with preconceived notions of what the story will be. If itâs a shounen the mc will have certain traits, his storyline will have certain beats and they will just ignore anything that deviates from these expectations. (Or get very upset that the story is not meeting those expectations)
Killua can be gay, because heâs not the main character and those are allowed more range by the fandom at large. Like there will be people who expect Killua to be Gonâs rival and get confused that he isnât, but generally the fandom is more tolerant of Killua not fitting that character trope.
And Killua fits into several western gay stereotypes ( I donât know enough about Japanese gay stereotypes to say he fits those too).Â
His body language sometimes slightly veers into what is deemed stereotypically feminine.Â
He has more distinct outfits than Gon in the anime. In the manga Gon has more outfits, including a dress-up game that Togashi drew as extras, which includes a dress for Gon, which I at least treat as a canon outfit that Gon has. Which makes Gon not really gender conforming 100% of the time, which in our current societal norms makes him seem queer. But most fans never read the manga, or just skimmed through it.
Killua likes sweets which according to gender stereotypes is a girly preference. In Japan this kind of stereotype can be seen that sweets are for kids and girls, but also in the western so called manosphere you can find people claiming that a real man should never order a dessert. I wouldnât claim that we never see Gon eating sweets in canon, because Iâve never cared enough to keep track of it, but Killuaâs obsession with Chocorobos is so prominent itâs a meme.
And the reader is treated to Killua explicitly waxing poetic about Gon in his head. Itâs kinda hard to miss.
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In addition to Gon not performing queer stereotypes as much as Killua does, there just is prejudice against the kind of person Gon is. And here comes the full on infantilization.Â
I kind of hate writing this kind of stuff, attaching diagnosis to characters that officially have none. There are aspects to Gon that can lean into interpreting him as neurodivergent. He has moments of hyperfocus when he becomes blind to the world outside, he sometimes has problems regulating his emotions, he can get single minded, heâs prone to risk taking, has issues with self worth and depression.
Like many neurodivergent people heâs not good when it comes to school learning, school is just not compatible with the neurodiverse.Â
But people (including some not self aware neurodiverse people) will judge you on your intelligence and maturity if you donât excel in that environment. With Gon itâs extra annoying, because he proves over and over again how smart he is.Â
Also Gon has hobbies and shows excitement about them. To a large subset of society that just means youâre a child, like for some reason the mark of maturity is being tepid and not invested in anything but making money and having a nuclear family. Gon still is literally a child, so his excitement is excusable, but it also makes him see much less mature than Killua whoâs already trying to perform moderation in showing excitement about things, he doesnât always manage, but heâs more reserved, above it all. Heâs already self-policing his levels of excitement.Â
And because a lot of people in the fandom are young, these biases are just something that have been ingrained into them by the culture, their family and school and they never paused to actually realise that they actually have these opinions and how fucked up they are, because these opinions just feel like duh, like this is obviously how it should be.
And since we donât get that much of Gonâs inner voice, itâs easy to get tricked into thinking that unlike Killua, Gon doesnât have a rich inner life, that he doesnât have all these thoughts constantly running through his head. Heâs just this silly kid who sees a bug and suddenly the excitement of that is just 100% percent of his inner life.Â
As a silly child Gonâs incapable of romantic feelings, especially gay feelings. Because as we know gay feelings are for older people. Which strongly feeds into the bias that neurodivergent people are generally immature and like should their supposed love lives (or gender identity) even be treated seriously let alone acknowledged?
I personally donât think that Gon is that much more experienced than Killua when it comes to romance. Like Gon thinks he knows how to throw a date but itâs clear heâs much more interested in the whole planning and preparing a date then being romantic with a person. It feels that his attitude towards âdatingâ is a little naive and confused, which makes sense because he is a kid. That doesnât mean heâs incapable of deep love, itâs just that he needs to gain more life experience, actually try to be in a romantic relationship, not just have deep feelings for his friend that they never talk about XD So like I think his experience in romance and dating should only be measured once he tries to take on a date someone he actually would like to date. And not organise play pretend dates for his aunt or as entertainment for some tourist ladies for whom itâs an a funny attraction to indulge a little sheltered boy who things that taking them, complete strangers heâll never see again his life, on a guided tour of the island and giving them flowers constitutes a proper date. Especially in the context of Gonâs date with Palm.*
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Gonâs love is stated in dialogue and not in his inner monologue, itâs in the way he acts towards Killua, how he repeatedly says that he wants to be with Killua, how much Killuaâs safety matters to him. Because of that itâs more missable, it just flows with the scene. Itâs not as explicit as Killuaâs stream of consciousness. We donât know what Gonâs stream of consciousness looks like, we donât know how much of his conscious thought is occupied by him just explicitly thinking about Killua. Because of that the people, who want to see Gon as just a shounen protag, will assume that there are no such thoughts in Gonâs head. Or even more likely, never bother to consider what might be going on in Gonâs head because itâs not something they generally do. And because of the stupid date with Palm gag, they will feel more assured in their assumption that Gon's straight. Because of how Togashi frames it, Gon's clear discomfort with Palm's bahaviour and his complete interest in her as a potential crush are obscured.Â
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* Dates with older ladies and Palm tangent, le sigh.Â
Generally Togashi really doesnât stick the landing when it comes pedophilia.Â
First of all, itâs pretty clear Togashi did no research on it, just defaulted to stereotypes about it.Â
Thereâs Hisoka who kinda embodies the harmful stereotype that links samesex attraction and gender non conforming presentation with pedophilia. And leans into the stranger danger stereotype. In reality creepy strangers like Hisoka are statistically less likely to anything more than passive creepers who stare at kids and have pedophilic scenarios in their heads, because most active paedophiles are people who are in some way close to the child. Unless there is child trafficking going on, or child prostitution. Of course someone so powerful like Hisoka could just use violence or money to get access to children but this is going into speculation about what Hisoka could potentially do outside of what the text gives us. Itâs not unreasonable speculation but I donât think Togashi thought that deeply about it. I just think he went by the stereotype and used the hints of paedophilia as an extra quick association to add to Hisokaâs general super creepy vibe. And Iâm saying hints, because Togashi really strives to have plausible deniability here. He always tries to mix in Hisokaâs obsession with strong opponents into the scenes that without that would clearly read as pedophilic. But with that obsession in the mix, it lets some people contest the pedophilic reading, claim that Hisokaâs boner is about Gonâs power growing. I think Togashi muddies the waters on purpose to keep the whole thing less serious. Â
Some people in the fandom interpret Illumi as a paedophile. Him being one is more in line with what rl statistics would suggest. He has an extremely creepy obsession with Killua, has means to control Killua and is very chill with Hisoka having paedophilic interests. And while I think itâs a reading that makes perfect sense, it is an interpretation. Even if Togashi wanted Illumi to read that way, he still put in enough plausible deniability that many people will just think that interpreting Illumi as a paedophile is reaching. Â
So now we come to Palm and Gon âdatingâ older women.
What I think Togashi went for with the older women on Whale Island is to give the reader the image that Gonâs dates were akin to kids throwing tea parties for their toys and/or family members. Especially the mention of him going on dates with Mito makes it more plausible that it was what Togashi intended. Just a kid play pretending to do adult things. Cute, naive, innocuous. And also knowing itâs just role playing. Because most kids know that they are playing, that serving tiny toy teacups to their family members is just pretending to serve tea. They are usually old enough to separate their imagination from reality.Â
We know that Gon is aware that the date he organises for Palm is pretend. He does not like Palm that way, he does not want to be in a relationship with her and he is trying to let her down easy by taking her on a pretend date. He probably thought it was a good idea because he likely got good feedback from the older women he used to âtake on datesâ. Likely those women had fun like adults have fun during the fake tea parties. Everyone knows itâs just role playing a scenario for fun.Â
I donât think that weâre supposed to think that those women were creepers who believed those dates were real. Because the whole shitty joke is that both Palm and Killua think that itâs real when Gon is perfectly aware that it isnât.Â
Gon has enough self-awareness that he knows he doesnât have feelings for Palm and that heâd like her not to have feelings for him. But heâs also scared of her because sheâs an extremely strong nen user and sheâs shown to be unstable in a violent way. So he chooses to play into her delusion to get himself out of the situation and not hurt her feelings. Because of his lack of like experience it backfires, because he likely had never met a person like her. He doesnât know that there is no way not to hurt her feelings at that point, that sheâs not a rational actor.Â
In this Gon both shows that he has emotional maturity in line with his age and certain gaps in understanding the world also in line with his age.Â
And we also see that Killua treats Gon as intelligent and as mature as himself and with respect for Gonâs life experience because he takes Gonâs words about dating experience waay too seriously. Which is also in line with his age, kids that age can we waay too serious for their own good just because they are trying to perform more and more the societally accepted trappings of maturity.Â
Why is the joke shitty? Because itâs misogynistic, sexist towards boys and again shows how Togashi didnât do any fucking research on paedophilia.Â
In real life we will have people claim that there is nothing wrong with adult women dating or even having sex with teen boys. That these boys should feel proud that they bagged a hottie, that if they complain if they feel bad or exploited they are not real men. That itâs not really pedophilia if an adult woman does that to a boy. Itâs also sexist towards boys because it comes with the assumption that a real boy is horny all the time and of course straight.Â
And the joke is only that Palm is crazy and she threatens Gon with violence into it. At least that the only issue male shounen fans both teenage and adult have with this. Palm is hot enough to be an obvious target of desire for Gon, a hottie to bag, but you know hahaha the best pussy is crazy, just saying hahaha.Â
And of course we have the sexism of women only being concerned with relationships, and being crazy about that. And easily controllable by men they are attracted to. That itâs okay for Knov to exploit Palms mental state and her feelings for him.Â
Togashi really shat the bed with this one. And the problem is that a lot of fans hate Palm for this, even more than Hisoka, because Togashi plays it for laughs, unlike with Hisoka. That the only issue presented with the scenario is that Palm is unhinged, otherwise the whole thing wouldâve been cool.Â
The misogyny in fandom is unreal. Because the thing is that if Palmâs story was framed properly the date wouldâve been a far more nuanced thing. Yes, her forcing Gon to do it wouldâve been creepy and horrible. But also itâd be clear that Palm wants to date Gon because he seems safe and controllable to her. Because sheâs being abused and exploited by an adult man who uses her feelings to manipulate her. And sheâs looking for a situation where sheâd be more in control. She is both a victim and an abuser. And this is a very psychologically realistic situation. There isnât a direct causation between being a victim of abuse and then becoming an abuser. Not all abusers used to be victims, not all victims become abusers. But there is a significant percentage of abusers that used to be victims. Itâs something Togashi couldâve explored with Palm because itâs all there, in the text, but he chose not to. Instead he played her creepy behaviour with Gon for laughs, made her prostitute herself to make Knov happy, and fixed her mental issues through having her bodily autonomy violated⌠And Iâm not sure he couldâve done it worse if he tried. Because the sad truth that this shitty Palm situation came from him not trying, him just defaulting to harmful cliches while writing her and calling it a day, likely not giving her story much thought at all.
i love when people actually bring up/point out that both gon & killua have abandonment issues & insecurities surrounding being good/strong enough for the ppl they care about/love, including & especially when it comes to each other.
killua âride-or-dieâ zoldyck, and i mean that entirely.
seriously, all the times heâs given his all to and for gon, esp the moments when killua wouldnât disclose just how much he did for him? or moments when gon just isnât conscious to witness it?
like, ep. 85 when killua piggy-backed gon that entire way back after they left kite, ignoring his own exhaustion?
the way he carried him into the city and then tucked him into that bed? are you kidding me???

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in one hxh analysis i read a while ago (i canât remember), someone once paralleled killua to a cat (specifically a âguard catâ, *gonâs* guard cat) in ep. 85 when he was sitting near the foot of gonâs bed before gon woke up, and i havenât been able to stop thinking abt it ever since.
killua âi would let you use and hurt me, and i would sacrifice myself for you endlessly, iâll do whatever it is you want, as long as it means that your problems become my problems, and that i get to stay by your side foreverâ zoldyck.
is it just me or are the hunterpedia shorts, episode previews, and (non-canon) movies the biggest killugon shippers ever? lmao