Anyone else feel bad for Rabbi Nachman? All he wanted to do was be a good host and husband and offer his guests and his wife a drink but every time he suggested it his guest kept arguing with him.

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Anyone else feel bad for Rabbi Nachman? All he wanted to do was be a good host and husband and offer his guests and his wife a drink but every time he suggested it his guest kept arguing with him.

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Ugh I love my chavruta but she is a grandmother and loves to meddle, so she told the rabbanit yesterday that I was ready to present my shiur on the Rambamās internal contradiction on engagement laws, WHICH I SUPER WASNāT. So I had to scramble to get something halfway coherent in two hours.
It worked out okay though!
Kiddushin 51
Guy's betrothed to a woman, a miss With a sister. But listen to this: He forgot which girl's his (Seems this guy's a real whiz), So gives gets to both miss and her sis.
I'm studying the daf (Kiddushin 40, but this bit starts at the end of 39b) this morning, and I'm a little confused.
Is there some obvious cultural or legal or historical reason that I'm missing why these rabbis couldn't just say no to the women, instead of covering themselves with boils and hiding in a demon-filled bathroom, or getting into a hot oven, or jumping off a roof???
Usually Dr. Kulp's daf shevui commentary explains when I'm missing context, but he didn't on this one.
Kiddushin 64b

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We had to wait 100 years, but it was perfect!Ā
Wedding of Emmie and Scott (Esther vā Yisrael
(thereās more where that came from)
So even getting married with a mood ring would be overkill??
The weight of a p'ruta was half that of a barleycorn, and it was silver. Assuming ā without justification ā that barleycorns weigh now what they did then, and other unjustified assumptions, we have: Wikipedia gives the weight of a barleycorn as about 65 mg. At about 31,103.4768 mg per troy ounce and a current price of silver of about USD28.20, that gives about 2.9 cents to a p'ruta.
I believe for most Halachic topics today that require āone prutahās worthā of cash, goods, or services (e.g. the minimum needed to effect a wedding), we go with an economic definition: the smallest amount of money that can buy something. Despite inflation, there are plenty of things you can still buy today for fifty cents or less, so fifty cents is certainly shaveh prutah; Iām not sure whether itās a nickel, dime, or quarter, but fifty cents certainly is enough. Or as someone once said to my father:
You mean instead of a gold ring, a guy could march down the aisle and give the bride the little metal tab off his soda can?
My father replied:
No, thatās not nearly enough. Heād have to give her the entire can of soda.
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(context: the process of kiddushin [basically getting married] involves the groom giving the bride something worth a prutah. I knew a prutah wasnāt big, but for what itās worth the sketchiness that is Judaism stack-exchange valued this way lower than Iād thought.)
the talmud shiur i attend when iām at home (like, not at university) is learning kiddushin, and i just remembered a couple of weeks ago when my male chevruta sat down next to me he picked up a fork as a joke and saidĀ āharei atā (he didnāt complete the phrase or hand me the fork, heās... like, heās not ignorant) and myĀ face entirely drained of blood within 0.2 seconds, like iāve never been overcome with horror so quickly in my life almost
in a halachic context it makes total sense of course, but looking back on it i find it so funny that we as a people are so scared of marriage