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Naming Maddie and Chim’s baby Robert Nash Han weeks ( or months, don't understand show's timeline anymore) after Bobby died doesn’t feel like a tribute. It feels re-traumatizing.

If someone I loved deeply had died—especially in a tragic, traumatic way—and then weeks later someone close to me named their baby their full name like “Robert Nash,” I’d be wrecked every time I heard it. It’s not sweet. It’s not healing. It’s grief on loop.

Grief doesn’t need a constant echo. A tribute should bring comfort—not reopen the wound every time someone says the name. That’s why people usually go for middle names or subtle nods—something that honors without overshadowing.

Instead, this feels less like a sweet memorial and more like… emotional possession by proxy. Like the writers are trying to resurrect Bobby through this baby instead of letting his death land.

And Athena calling the baby “hi Bobby”? That’s not your husband reborn. That’s a newborn. It’s giving ghost baby. It’s giving unresolved grief. It’s giving “this poor child will grow up being a walking memorial.” That’s not comforting—it’s creepy. The emotional logic just isn’t there.

So while Jee-Yun’s name was love, Robert’s name feels like loss that hasn’t been dealt with.

I don’t think Buck ever truly understood what Tommy needed from him.

He didn’t need a grand gesture — Just a confident sign. A crack in the door. A flicker of warmth. Some signal that says: you’re allowed to try.

And when he gets that? He moves.

— Buck says he wanted Tommy’s attention → Tommy kisses him. — Buck says maybe he’s ready for something → Tommy says yes. Shows up to the party. Shows up to the wedding. — Buck and Tommy hook up → Tommy makes breakfast, unpacks the coffee machine, buys champagne like maybe this means something. — Buck says thank you → Tommy says, “And for you.”

He doesn’t storm in. He doesn’t force his way into anyone’s life. He just reads the room, and when he sees the smallest opening — he acts. Quietly, decisively, fully, with care.

But Buck never understood that. And that’s the real tragedy.

Buck’s emotional. He feels everything. But he doesn’t act on it without certainty. He spirals. He waits to be invited.

Tommy? He came out late. He lived through silence. He was in the Army. Under Gerrard. Engaged to a woman once. He knows how to live with restraint — and still, somehow, he shows up.

Especially for someone like Tommy, who spent years in places where silence was survival — he’s not going to beg. But he will take the risk, if you leave the door cracked.

And S8 Buck? Never did. Not enough.

During the breakup, Tommy said something real:

“I know how this ends. I’m your first, not your last.”

He put his fear on the table. Buck did try — he even said, “they can be the same thing”

But even that wasn’t something Tommy could hold onto. It was a maybe, not a confident yes.

And when Tommy reached for something solid? Buck didn’t say, “You’re wrong.” He didn’t say, “I want this.” He didn’t say, “Stay.” So Tommy left.

Later, at the bar, Tommy brought it up — said he thought about reaching out. He drove past Buck’s place. He typed the message.(bubbling) (But Buck never opened the door. So Tommy never hit send.)

Buck shut it down with : “No way.” No opening. No invitation. Just more confusion.

Then Buck invited him. And Tommy took that as hope. He didn’t just stay the night — he unpacked the coffee machine. He brought food. He probably bought champagne. He thought it meant something.

But when Buck lashed out:

“You know, I don't have to want to sleep with everyone I have feelings for. And I don't have to have feelings for everyone I sleep with.”

Tommy read the room again. Said, “Got it.” And left.

Not because he didn’t care. But because he’d learned to stop reaching where he’s not wanted.

And the part that breaks me?

Buck knew. He told Maddie the morning after: “I was cruel.” Said, “I should call him.” But he never did.

And this is where our headcanon comes in — because based on everything we’ve seen from Tommy:

If Buck had called. Even just a text. Even unsure, even messy. Tommy would’ve taken the chance. He’s always taken the chance.

So yeah. Maybe Buck felt rejected and abandoned. Maybe he thought Tommy gave up too fast.

But from Tommy’s side?

He’d kissed first. Said yes first. Shown up every time. He’d taken risks, again and again — every time Buck gave him a sliver of permission.

And Buck never realized how easy it would’ve been to meet him halfway.

He just needed one more sign.

And he would’ve come back. Like he always did.

let’s talk about her obsession for a second (because mine doesn’t need a reason) — because she’s not even in the fandom. and honestly? she’s not wrong. that tiny pilot with maybe twenty minutes of total screen time still managed to leave more impact than most long-term characters. which got me thinking — not about her obsession, but why everyone’s reaction to tommy, the breakup, and even the silence after felt so intense.

so let’s talk about that. It's very long read. I just wanted to put all my thoughts in one place.

I’ve seen posts dismissing Buck and Tommy’s relationship as shallow or forgettable — and I get it, it was short, Tommy’s a guest star, the arc ended quietly. But I think reducing it like that misses something much more interesting the show was actually trying to do — about Buck, about emotional intimacy, and about what it means to be seen in a relationship. This isn’t about shipping, or trying to make a case for “endgame.” It’s about giving narrative weight its due. And about why Tommy Kinard, even in limited screen time, brought something out of Buck we’ve rarely — if ever — seen before.

🧵 Re: That Buck/Tommy Take — I Disagree (Here’s Why It Deserves More Respect)

I got an anon earlier, and out of respect for their request, I won’t post it directly — but the gist was this:

“Buck and Tommy’s relationship wasn’t that deep. Tommy wasn’t a good partner. Why are people so obsessed with it? Can we stop fixating like it mattered?”

And respectfully?

Absolutely not. That reading misses a lot of what the show actually did — and what it meant. Let’s talk about it.

1. “It wasn’t that deep.”

Then why did it break Buck?

If it was just a fling, why did he:

Go into full spiral trying to get Tommy’s attention in 7x04?

Ask for a second chance and a coffee date — then invite him to Maddie’s wedding as a date (7x05)? That’s not something you do for just anyone.

Practically burst out of the closet to his family when Tommy showed up (7x06)?

Obsessively bake, spiral, and hesitate on texting Tommy again in 8x07? (Compare that to how he treated Taylor, Ali, or even Natasha post-breakup. Nothing. This was different.)

The entirety of 8x11 episode?

Start peacocking in a helicopter in 8x15?

That’s not surface-level. That’s a man who caught real feelings and didn’t know how to handle them.

And Tommy? He wasn’t untouched either. The shock on his face during the breakup, the sadness in the bar conversation, the heartbreak the morning after — and even in that blink-and-you’ll-miss-it moment in 8x15, watching Buck’s hallway breakdown from across the room — all of it points to something deeper. He felt this.

Maybe he didn’t expect it to be serious. But it became serious — quietly, fully, and in ways that clearly left a mark.

2. “Tommy wasn’t a good partner.”

This one honestly stings. Because Tommy might be the best partner Buck’s had on-screen.

He respected Buck’s boundaries. Checked in often.

He prioritized Buck. He prioritized Buck’s comfort — comforting him post Buck’s basketball spiral, showed up to the wedding like it meant something, and turned into a doting boyfriend during the Billy boils drama.

He offered open, enthusiastic affection — called Buck hot, smart, impulsive, adorable… repeatedly. To his face.

And Buck? Buck called him “cool.” Once. At the very beginning.

Tommy gave emotional warmth constantly. Buck basked in it — but we never saw him offer the same back. That’s not on Tommy.

3. “They barely developed it.”

Yes, Tommy was a guest star. The screen time was limited. But don’t pretend there was no development — because there was, and more quickly than some longer arcs. (Cough Taylor.)

We got:

Initial attraction

Mutual admiration

Emotional hesitation

A breakup with actual dialogue

A post-breakup hookup, driven by unresolved feeling

Lingering fallout that continued afterward

That’s more emotional continuity than Buck’s had with multiple long-term love interests. If the writers didn’t mean for it to matter, they sure wasted a lot of carefully written scenes making it feel like it did.

And yes — we keep using the same five scenes to prove our point. Because that’s what we got. But what we got? Was charged. Focused. Intentional. Emotionally dense.

And let’s be real: screen time is scarce on a show like 9-1-1. It’s not a character drama — half the runtime is dedicated to emergency calls, visual effects, and procedural pacing. Everyone’s fighting for space. Ryan Guzman literally said scenes get cut all the time. Oliver and others have talked about emotional beats that never made it in.

So the fact that Buck and Tommy still got this much? That alone should tell you the writers wanted it to land. And it did.

4. Tommy brought out something new in Buck

What sticks isn’t just the dynamic — it’s who Buck got to be inside it.

He was softer. More grounded. He wasn’t chasing a high or trying to play a role. He was allowed to be unapologetically Buck — extra, campy, chaotic — and Tommy met him there.

No need to impress. Just… show up. And be seen.

Hell, even his whole look shifted — relaxed in a way that felt intentional. Not just a “new season” change, but a visible softening. His hair. His clothes. His vibe. It was noticeable.

That’s rare for Buck. And worth paying attention to.

Just because a relationship was short doesn’t mean it was shallow. Just because it ended doesn’t mean it wasn’t real. Just because you didn’t care for it doesn’t mean the story didn’t.

You don’t have to ship it. But pretending it was meaningless? That’s a disservice to what we actually got — and to a character who, for once, saw Buck clearly… and liked what he saw.

P.S. This isn’t about being a Lou Ferrigno Jr. fan account or trying to hate on people who ship other characters with Buck. I genuinely love character analysis — we’ve been doing it for others as well — and this post or previous are coming from that place, not from bias or bitterness.

Fandom has a way of turning every moment into a test. Who you support, what you criticize, how loudly you do it — it all gets measured. And lately, it feels less like people are talking about the show, and more like they’re competing over who can be the most outraged.

But not every situation is the same. There’s a difference between a pattern of harmful behavior and a handful of reposts that some find questionable. What looks alarming to one group may not even register for another. Flattening those differences into “cancel equally or you’re a hypocrite” isn’t accountability — it’s performance.

The truth is, people are messy. Characters are messy. None of us are going to think, vote, or react the same way. That doesn’t make one person more virtuous and another less. It just makes us human.

Outrage isn’t the same thing as integrity. And demanding that everyone react in lockstep doesn’t build community — it turns difference into war. If you don’t like someone, step back. If you don’t like their work, don’t consume it. That’s a boundary. What it doesn’t need to be is a crusade.

Fandom isn’t supposed to be a purity contest. It’s supposed to be a place to share what we love, disagree without destroying, and recognize that the world is grey, not black and white. We don’t need to join every outrage cycle to prove where we stand.

At the end of the day, the only person you can hold accountable every day is yourself. Everyone else? Let them be.

P.S. Leave people alone. We don’t actually know Lou’s views from a few reposts — and even if we did, they’d still be his. I stepped away for a month and came back to another meltdown.

Where we left things: Buck and Tommy’s story so far is surprisingly short if you lay it out on paper. They met in 7x03 during the hurricane rescue of Bobby and Athena, kissed in 7x04, and went on their first date in 7x05. By the end of 8x06, they were broken up. Then came the one-night stand in 8x11, a shared mission in the biolab arc, and Tommy attending Bobby’s funeral in 8x16 as a pallbearer.

On paper, that’s a year and a half of story; two seasons of yes → no → yes → no with very little foundation built on-screen. The infamous “six months of dating” mostly happened offscreen. The breakup came during the first real conflict we actually saw, and the hookup in 8x11 added some spark but no depth.

That’s why the question heading into Season 9 is tricky: what do you even do with them now?

Option 1: Keep them estranged The slow-drag route. Buck spends the early episodes grieving Bobby, while Tommy hovers at the edges: around the 118, in air-support missions, and at firefighter memorials. They circle each other, share meaningful glances, but don’t move forward. → Risk: pause fatigue. 9-1-1 doesn’t write long, nuanced slow burns; it does big swing → drop → reset. We’ve already seen that cycle once.

Option 2: Rebuild fast, then show the milestones If the writers want BuckTommy to matter, reconnect them early (maybe grief as the bridge, urgency as the catalyst) and finally let us watch them build the relationship on screen. Give us the milestones we never got in S7–8: actual dates, talks, conflict and resolution, learning each other’s rhythms. Basically, retrofit the six months we were robbed of.

Option 3: Scrap Tommy entirely Wouldn’t be shocking if the show drops him like Abby, Ali, and Taylor. Tommy becomes “the one who got away,” and Buck gets shunted into another forced-growth arc. But Tommy carrying Bobby’s casket wasn’t a disposable choice; it tethered him symbolically again to the 118. Dropping him now would feel cheap, even by 9-1-1 standards.

Why this feels hollow compared to Lone Star Unlike any of Buck’s relationships, Lone Star’s Tarlos had a clear structure. Every season gave them a milestone:

S1 → hook-up / dating S2 → moving in + breakup S3 → reconciliation + engagement S4 → wedding S5 → marriage conflict + resolution

Even when messy, there was a skeleton. Each season added a rung on the ladder.

BuckTommy? First Kiss → dating → breakup in under two seasons. No milestones, no foundation. That’s why dragging this out now feels tedious — déjà vu with none of the investment.

So, what will Season 9 do? If BuckTommy is meant to be endgame, the writers hopefully commit early and use Season 9 to show the growth they skipped. If they’re not, they owe a clean resolution instead of another loop of pause and ambiguity.

Right now, it feels like they broke BuckTommy up way too early. Another season of circling each other with no payoff would just make the whole thing feel hollow.

(And why it’s harmful if it does)

⚠️ Disclaimer:

This isn’t about policing queer identity. People explore. People learn. People fall in love late. That’s all valid. But this is about how media frames queerness — and how 9-1-1 risks reinforcing damaging tropes that queer audiences are exhausted by. When straight love stories are treated as stable and romantic, but queer ones are messy, painful, or never quite “enough,” it stops being representation and starts being a pattern. Especially in 9-1-1, where Buck and Tommy had a chance at something emotionally grounded and real — and the show chose to throw it away. What happens next matters. Not trying to overstep— — just putting into words what I don’t want to see happen.

TL;DR: Stop treating queerness like a detour. Buck doesn’t need to date around to realize he loved Tommy. Tommy isn’t a placeholder. And if Buck won’t talk to him now, don’t pretend he’ll magically be ready for someone else. Growth means honesty. Not avoidance.

(a pre-season 9 reflection on rhythm, stagnation, and tim minear’s ghosts)

There was a time when 9-1-1 felt like a full album — every episode its own track, but all flowing together. You had your loud bangers (the disasters), your quiet ballads (the emotional beats), and that perfect rhythm that made the season feel like a story.

Now it’s like someone hit shuffle and walked away.

It’s not about how many episodes there are in a season: 10, 19, 24, whatever... It’s about intention. And somewhere along the line, He stopped writing with it. Every episode should connect, breathe, mean something. Instead, we get noise.

the lost rhythm

remember when the show had flow? when emotional arcs echoed from week to week? now every episode exists in its own bubble.

buck grows, regresses, grows again. eddie’s still angry. athena keeps losing husbands. maddie’s trauma just reboots every season. hen and karen toggle between adoption and career crises like someone flipping a switch.

the emergencies are louder, sure. flashier, even. but the stories underneath? thinner. outlines of what they used to be.

And it sucks.