#ata analysis

OH MY FUCKING GOD. I KNOW WHY WOOLY IS SCARED.

LOOK AT THE LAYOUT OF THE ROOM. THIS ISNT THEIR HOUSE. OR MAYBE ITS AMANDAS ROOM WHO CARES. IT LOOKS ODD AS FUCK. THE MAKEOVER SETUP IN THE VAST MIDDLE OF THE ROOM WHILE THE CUPBOARD IS ALL THE WAY OVER THERE.

BUT WHAT IS IT THAT BOTHERS WOOLY?

THE WHITE WALLS. THE WHITE FLOOR.

HES GETTING PTSD AND HE DOESNT LIKE IT. IM TELLING YOU THIS IS WHERE HE WENT WHEN HE DIED. THIS IS WHERE HE IS ALWAYS BEING INFERROGATED AND THREATENED. THIS IS WHERE HE IS BEING HELD AGAINST HIS WILL TO SAY SOMETHING FOR THE NEXT GAME.

AND WE KNOW HE HATES IT BECAUSE HE ASKS HIS CAPTOR TO LET HIM GO AT GUNPOINT AND HE ALSO LITERALLY BEGS US NOT TO LEAVE HIM IN THERE.

ALSO??? BECAUSE OF THE WAY THIS ROOM IS SET UP I THINK THIS IS WHEN H*MELN STARTED TO ABANDON THE SHOW AND NOT CARE ANYMORE. THEY STARTED CUTTING DOWN ON BUDGET AND QUALITY. ALSO THERES A LITERAL WIP TAPE WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR 3D MODELS ON A 2D BACKGROUND AND ITS SO OFF.

Moving away from Amanda and Wooly. What's your theory on what happened to Sam? My personal fav is that he is the narrator. Because Sam was shown to be a storyteller, and it makes sense to me that he'd be the one to cheer her up... but it's also tragic because he can never be there with her physically. But enough about my thoughts, I wanna hear yours!

Also any meatman theories?

SAM!!! Dude I love all of the characters but some of the characters outside of the TV show needs more recognition, so characters like Joanne, Kate and of course Sam. So I’m happy you asked that!

So there’s not much I can say here to be completely honest! I’m mostly a theorist when it comes to character’s personalities and their trauma responses, when it comes to events I definitely have thoughts for sure! But a lot of the time things are often too vague or there just isn’t enough information for me to personally say anything. I guess it’s that fear of being wrong? Because events are a lot more jurassic then let’s say getting a minor thing on a character wrong. But regardless I’ll answer the best I can and my own personal thoughts!

I personally think Sam was simply killed, OR something else happened to him but we just don’t see it yet. I think that Sam was kidnapped and then coerced into trying to trick Amanda, but he refused so he was killed or harmed in some regard.

Hameln seems to mostly want kids trapped in their TV show and not adults, the line “here at Hameln we believe that every child has a creative light within” shows this (off topic I wonder where that came from? Was it an interview? A public announcement or something by one of the Hameln directors?) . and with the story that the company name is based off of “the Piped Piper” I don’t think they have much of an interest or want to have adults in the TV show. The line “every child has a creative light within” sorta imply that they want specifically kids because they hold something convenient within them that would make it easier on whatever they’re trying to achieve (many things I can say about that, but this isn’t a Hameln rant)

so that makes me doubt he’s a character in the TV show, at the very least not an active character who can speak or move but something more inanimate.

I tend to go with the more likely scenario with the evidence we have, which is that Sam was killed by Hameln. but lemme go against myself! But then lemme defend myself.

Yeah sure they could just kill Sam but why would they? The more practical element would be to continue to use him in some way. Then again if he continues to defy them what else are they to do but kill him? He’s a full grown adult man, and for some reason that makes me doubt their ability to do things to him. but again Amanda’s dad would he an incredibly useful tool to have. I think whatever happens it would just show more about what we know of Sams personality, if he did continue to defy them which caused them to have to kill him, that says a lot about who Sam is and honestly doesn’t seem too far off on what I already know of him. But again it he listened to them and didn’t defy them too much? That also says a lot about him too!

^ It’s also important to note that, I feel like even if he did defy a lot there was a level of “I have to do this for my child” that he clearly exhibits, so who’s to say they forced him into doing something and THEN he defied them. When he realized that it did not help his daughter in any way he tried his best to go against them. This also isn’t taking account any kind of psychological or physical torture Hameln might’ve done to gander better results. a lot of this in general is dictated by who Sam is as a character and there’s a lot I can say about that.

I should be use to games like ATA not having the “most likely scenario” happen, as really, in a game like ATA anything could’ve gone down! So this is more so a note for myself and it could be likely that Sam is ANYONE, and we just don’t think it (he isn’t Wooly though that’s obvious to me)

The rooster symbolism for Sam seems incredibly deliberate to me. And makes me think more then just “they killed him” went down, that being said I don’t think there’s much (yet) to imply what that is.

On a side note I do think that the clothes they find in the “Let’s Hunt for Treasure” tape might (massive maybe here) resemble Sam in some way? Mostly because the colors are generally more cool toned and all of Sams outfits (excluding the tape with him when Hameln was trying to get him to say something) have been cool toned. Amanda’s reaction could also maybe show this? She’s horrified but I also doubt she knows what happened to her father, all she knows is that these clothes somewhat resemble her dad, and she doesn’t want to think that her dad died, hence why she was quick to bury it?? Not to sure. (but it also could be all of the kids that were trapped and then killed? Idk)

I mostly think that he’s dead since it was the Rooster thing specially that Amanda chose to sell and the emphasis of it floating off into the sky sorta implies that he died.

I can also note some other things about the flashes that shows up at times when you type in “Sam” but… lemme be honest here I honestly don’t know what they mean besides the obvious “Hameln did something to him” sure I can make guess? But they’d be nothing but me throwing stuff at the wall until a conclusion happens.

meatman/ Butcher theories???? UH- wow there’s a lot I can say here? But that would need a post of it’s own. But here’s what I’ll list

I think he’s one of the only adults who’s actually physically in the TV show. As in, he’s a independent character within it and not just some inanimate object. He was definitely put there to keep an eye in some way and to achieve something.

I do think he was or is connected to the surgeon that performed/ experimented on Amanda (and by extension the other children)

I think he has a deeper more interesting and personal connection to Wooly then people think? Again this would need another entire post of its own.

Idk I get the feeling he’s more scientific then people think? And I think he has a connection with the pigs that often show up. Which is to say I think what the pigs are meant to show is how they eat basically anything. Not sure if it’s true but there’s been stories and I’ve heard of pigs being used to dispose of bodies since they can and will try to eat everything that you give them disregarding the obvious stuff. And when the pigs show up they’re always eating in some way. I think there’s something to be said there. I also think that in general the pigs are symbolic. (I just feel like ATA has a lot of very literal things happen and show up in tandem with symbolism)

tumblr has a photo limit so i will put most of the photos on tiktok.

forget the tape. the tape isn’t important right now. what’s important is that THE RBH THEORY IS REAL.

for the longest time we have been going off of some proof here, some implication there and yapping so hard it was practically an au. but now we have something real. we have MULTIPLE things. and they all lead to one idea.

in the collection of monitors where the demo takes place, there are screens involving 2 babies, 2 shots of a playground, 3 angles of the break room and 1 shot of what seems to be an alley outside. i think it’s the same alley woolymanda went down, where wooly nervously glanced at the library before looking at us. in the actual game, the screens change a little and there seems to be a cut off shot of a room in the library.

those are small things but keep them in mind. now the important thing.

BIOEX0623 - "SHEPHERD"

LOG #23

SAMPLE TAKEN FROM MARCUS MOUTMAN PROVED SUCCESSFUL IN REPLICATION PROCESS WITH MINIMAL CASUALTIES. SUBJECT IS TO BE CONTAINED UNTIL LOCATION OF TAPES AND THE COLTON ANOMALY ARE CONFIRMED

"SHEPHERD" SHOULD ONLY BE HANDLED BY CONTAINMENT SPECIALISTS (Danny McQuiggin!!!) AS IT IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. HAMELN IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INJURIES, TRAUMA, DISMEMBERMENT, OR DEATH AS A RESULT OF EXPOSURE TO "SHEPHERD"

let’s look at this properly.

Marcus Moutman - WOOLY.

Shepherd - THE SHEEP ENTITY (woolys demon)

The Colton Anomaly - THE BONE ENTITY (amandas demon)

now i will translate this into basic text.

DNA/BLOOD TAKEN FROM MARCUS MOUTMAN WORKED WELL WHILE REPRODUCING THE SHEEP DEMON. THERE WAS LITTLE RESISTANCE FROM MARCUS. MARCUS WILL BE ISOLATED UNTIL WE FIND THE TAPES AND FIND THE BONEY DEMON.

THE SHEEP DEMON SHOULD ONLY BE TAMED BY CONTAINMENT SPECIALISTS BECAUSE IT IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. H*MELN DOESN’T GIVE A FUCK IF YOU GET HURT BY THE SHEEP DEMON.

no matter marcus’ identity, something can be deducted from this text. marcus has been involved in experiments (at least 23 times) where a “sample” (DNA/blood?) of him is taken to use in another experiment involving the shepherd, supposedly the creation and evolution/reproduction of the shepherd. (if we assume this is happening with every victim of H*meln, there could be HUNDREDS of demons. is that their goal?) it’s implied marcus barely resisted during the 23rd experiment or hasn’t resisted at all (once again pointing to wooly). marcus, at least since the 23rd experiment has been isolated. how do i know it’s marcus? they call him SUBJECT.

reading this over made me realise something else. this screen is shown at the halfway point of woolymandas entrapment. this could ACTUALLY mean that they are TO THIS DAY taking samples from marcus’ uninhabited body and “minimal casualties” means his body hasn’t reacted badly. they are containing marcus until the tapes and the anomaly are found. this could mean that blank (???) was not only recording tapes, but stealing them. this is of course at the time the anomaly was on the loose, so the kate incident must have happened in between the 10 year mark and now.

back to shepherd. there has been a lot of discussion on how it came to be and what the rats (H*meln staff) have been doing to it. it could be that it acts in favour of H*meln (as opposed to the anomaly who acts in favour of amanda) BUT it could even be the opposite. there’s been some talk on how since it’s a giant unnatural being it is being mistreated or abused by the rats, either because they simply don’t know it’s wants/needs or they are actively trying to provoke it to be more violent? whatever they did, or maybe it’s just its nature, the shepherd is VIOLENT, and will go against ANYTHING in its way. this is proven by the fact it ESCAPED from the H*meln facility.

this is a cage right outside the facility before riley enters. it has a giant hole in it. the METAL cage. yall fr stupid to think metal would hold it ngl. from this we can deduct that this is where they kept the shepherd, probably to run tests and experiments on it, and it was threatened and felt the need to break out of the cage to escape. (should point out now that a shepherd’s job is LITERALLY to care for sheep, once again pointing to how it works for H*meln but probably also works for wooly, which makes sense considering wooly ALSO acts in favour of H*meln.)

having a clear view of the shepherd has given a MASSIVE advantage to the theory that the entities are made from the corpses of rebecca/marcus. the anomaly just straight up looks like a naked monochrome slenderman rebecca. the shepherd looks more like a sheep, but we can see that it’s hands/fingers are outstretched and deformed. its anatomy is more recognisable as a human, with some deformities like the sheep head/eyes, random spots of wool and what seems to be hind legs. the legs look more to me like human legs that were snapped to resemble sheep hooves, but we can’t see them fully.

now that we know for a FACT some form of DNA from marcus was being used in the creation of the shepherd, it could be that the mixed DNA of marcus and possibly a collection of animals (sheep? pigs?)/culty bullshit has caused its appearance to loosely form around MARCUS’ appearance, hence the resemblance to a human body. same with the anomaly, its appearance is that of a human bone structure and could have been easily been made from extracted DNA of rebecca. the fact that H*meln are looking FOR the anomaly suggest it was a mistake or that it turned against them. either way the anomaly is a threat to H*meln, giving a high chance it will side with riley later on. (moot pointed out it could have actually been the anomaly who escaped from the cage, since we don’t know HOW strong they are, just that the anomaly is weaker than the shepherd.)

another important thing.

Overall appearance

› Eye integrity = 3

› Ear integrity = 4

› Oral integrity = 2

› Skin integrity = 3

> Respiratory integrity = 1

> Cardiovascular integrity = 3

…COULD THIS BE THE STATS OF MARCUS/REBECCA??? notice how respiratory integrity (aka BREATHING RATE aka RATE OF ALIVENESS) is at 1. ONE. THEY ARE SO GENUINELY COOKED-

now. the cracks in the walls.

of course it could just be from the building deteriorating over time. but I don’t suspect that’s the case. i think these may have resulted from multiple incidents in which the shepherd (or anomaly) was attacking and fucked up the walls. we KNOW the entity is strong as fuck because 1 it literally ripped joanne apart and 2 it makes the ENTIRE BUILDING SHAKE just from hitting the door that’s holding it back. holy shit what is that door made of. vibranium. anyway i checked the demo and the building was shaking even THEN, 10 years ago. this lines up with the shepherd being around at the time of that log, meaning this could have possibly been when the shepherd was trying to escape the cage, or was being rowdy during experiments.

i understand that this is a bit of a tangent to start with but it ALL SUPPORTS THE RBH THEORY. HOW? with THIS.

this singular piece of paper has changed EVERYTHING. it’s confirmed ALL of our suspicions. and not just that but MORE.

im gonna say it now to get it out of the way. H*meln is the BIGGEST piece of shit i have ever come across fictionally. i ofc want riley to get a gun and kill every motherfucker who has touched that cult but that isn’t enough. i want them to go through HELL. they are the bane of my existence i want them to MORE than suffer i want them to DETERIORATE. anyway

I’ve highlighted the key parts of this document. we can see that they have been harbouring children and seemingly running tests on them, including commands and activities such as putting them in front of a screen. they are sometimes threatened if they don’t uphold the IDEAL WORKING ENVIRONMENT BLEEEHHH.

the chart works this way ↓

CHILD CODE NUMBER

PERSONALITY

BEHAVIOURAL ISSUES (aka normal human traits, ESPECIALLY for children)

BEHAVIOURAL TREAT (aka food they like to make them shut up and obey)

the very first thing that became obvious to everyone is that 05 is LAUREN. LAUREN. FROM THE FIRST FUCKING GAME. i can’t believe it i never thought she would be relevant again. this leaves SO MANY POSSIBILITIES. if she wasn’t absorbed into the tv how the fuck did she go missing and end up in the hands of H*meln within 5 SECONDS??? FUCKING HOW. unless she WAS absorbed into the tv but then was REVERSE ABSORBED INTO THE BUILDING? I-

there is no way that 04 is NOT a neurodivergent kid. im sorry. its too. stereotypical? but like in a good way. they obviously wanted 04 to be represented as an ND kid from their description.

ATA discord had a huge debate on 08. depressed? refuses to eat meat? some options here could be that they have a specific dietary preference, they have a religious belief or the most popular one, that they have a condition such as anorexia. it could also be a bit of pressuring from the rats to work on their diet, but it’s seen as an issue to them so maybe not.

now we DID think that 04 and 01/08 could be jordan and marcus, but that can’t be the case because of the fact that the subjects line up with the PODS.

01 is a trashcan.

02 (rebellious kid) is a tree.

03 is an electric post.

04 (ND kid) is a dog. (THE STRAY DOG THAT RAN AWAY AFTER AMANDA TRIED TO PET THEM!!!)

05 (lauren) is a flower.

06 is a sock.

07 (aggressive kid) is a circle. (a moon? a sun? a ball? probably the sun, since it’s been added to the full game.)

08 (diet kid) is a door.

these are all of the kids in those pods, so they CANT be marcus or jordan, since they have to be in the same condition as rebecca to have the same set up as her.

I’m still gonna add this tho because it’s interesting to think about. the TREATS.

before i go into this i HAVE to point out that the sandwich is ROTTING (reference!). ofc a sandwich can rot in probably a few days but the building has HAD to be abandoned for probably 5-10 years. it depends. I’m suprised there isn’t any clear signs of rotting/staleness on the other food. aaand won’t you look at that. ALL THE TREATS ASSIGNED TO THE KIDS. AND MORE (MINT CHOCOLATE CHIP.) now the reason we thought some of them were jordan or marcus was because 04 is clearly some type of ND and i headcanon jordan as ND/non verbal, and FIRSTLY, the chocolate cake given to 01 is similar the chocolate cake that helped us discover marcus’ name and SECONDLY the description of 08 sounds like something marcus would do, as i headcanon him as naturally fat and he would probably be told to work on his diet or degrade himself into doing so. but again, it CANT be them.

and what do we find if we decide to be fucking stupid and try blend all the food together for shits and giggles? coughBERLEEZYcough THIS.

oh. MY god. it’s fucking lauren AGAIN and also A RANDOM ASS BLACK GIRL? LIKE OKAY DAMN

PLOT HOLE ALERT! laurens date of birth and date missing are MONTHS apart, but she dissapeared on her BIRTHDAY. how. anyway if we do some quick math here we find that lauren was 8 when she went missing and karla was… 4… yeah okay im done no yeah no i fucking hate this game (btw the NCMEC is the national centre for missing and exploited children. MMM.)

now this all begs the question. what EXACTLY is H*meln doing to these poor vulnerable children? that has already been debated many times but we can get a lot from what is canonically shown IN. THE. POSTERS.

Criticism is NECESSARY

Take it CAREFULLY

When You Listen You Learn

Hang In There

TIME KILLERS ARE GUILTY

Be good. (TWICE.)

TEAMWORK - A Team That Is Not Focused On Results… Fails

these posters CLEARLY show an environment that is emotionally manipulative, demanding, and shrouded in toxic positivity, not only to its subjects but its staff.

now I’m gonna list some quotes from the document. the children are examinees. a good subject is quiet and cooperative. use any means necessary to keep things under control. avoid giving the subjects too much sugar as that will heighten their behavioural issues. there is also an examinee overseer for when they don’t follow the rules.

MY take from all of this is that the children are being treated like guinea pigs, being forced to undergo tests and examinations for some reason, the reason possibly being to prepare them to go into the pods, or in some cases, surgery. but they are being made to believe that this abuse isn’t what it is and that they’re doing a good job by accepting their situation rather than questioning it. “any means necessary” extremely worries me as it implies they will stop at nothing to make sure the children stay quiet and cooperative and that probably includes physical abuse on top of the emotional side of it. as we can see there are some children who act fairly calm while others don’t go by the ideal working environment or actively go against it, like 02 and 07. in their cases, there is an examinee overseer to supposedly “straighten them out” but I’m worried about what that exactly entails.

a few final bits and pieces before i get more into it - there is CLEAR evidence of children being raised in that building as seen by the childish scribbles on the walls (AT A LOW LEVEL THAT ONLY CHILDREN CAN REACH.) and extremely childlike paintings that have been pinned to the board and the fridge (labeled Mackenzie and Rodney). (MOOT POINTED OUT THAT THE DRAWING DONE BY MACKENZIE COULD HAVE BEEN A RORSCHACH TEST (psychological test where you interperet ink blots to have an insight to your mind) TO POSSIBLY TEST AND ASSESS THEM. that or it’s just a flippity flippity painting but WHO KNOWS)

keep in mind the part about it being an extremely strict and demanding environment to EVERYONE in there. they can’t even have FAMILY PHOTOS up in that bitch. talk about YOU BELONG TO US, YOU SERVE US, YOUR FAMILY DOESNT MATTER, YOU DONT MATTER amirite. god this place sucks ANYWAY

what am i getting at here? this is all an example of MARCUS. a subtle build up to MARCUS. i say that because i suspect whatever those kids were going through marcus went through so much worse, ESPECIALLY with the whole taking his blood to summon a demon thing. HELLO.

think about it from a narrative standpoint. why would they give us all this, show us how these kids are suffering, showing us just how cruel H*meln is for it to NOT lead us to a major character? having it lead to a minor or new character is bullshit and having it lead to nothing is also bullshit. and we HAVE every characters backstory EXCEPT WOOLYS. and what have we been getting? HINTS OF WOOLYS PAST.

we know wooly is marcus from the cipher in the first game. wooly was ALWAYS set up to be marcus. and NOW marcus is CURRENTLY being set up to be A CHILD RAISED BY H*MELN.

how do i know? HIS BEHAVIOUR. woolys behaviour is the one thing you HAVE to pay attention to. let’s backtrack here.

a good subject is quiet and cooperative - WOOLY. all he’s been DOING is sucking up and being a good boy to H*meln. he allows this to happen. he lets amanda silence him yet he tries to force her to be as cooperative as him. PROJECTING ASS.

criticism is necessary. take it carefully. when you listen you learn - WOOLY. he lets amanda push him around because he thinks letting her walk all over him is a learning opportunity or some shit. yet when she DOES try to give him shit to think about he still can’t help himself from completely ignoring her because he’s TOO DAMN STUBBORN. he would rather shut up than stand his ground against her and it speaks volumes hunny IT TALKS.

hang in there - WOOLY. this is kinda irrelevant but still HES LITERALLY HANGING IN THERE. HES ONE STEP AWAY FROM LOSING IT IM TELLING YOU HES AT HIS BREAKING POINT.

time killers are guilty - i feel like this one is more directed towards the staff but also. notice how he’s always trying to stop amanda from diverging too much before it’s too late or whatever. but then just kinda gives up once she’s gone too far and made it clear she’s not listening to his BULLSHIT. just sayin pay attention now.

be good - WOOLY. WHO is always sucking up and being a good boy to H*meln, no matter what amanda does or thinks, no matter what it means for both of them? say it with me now. WOOLY.

use any means necessary to achieve the ideal working environment - WOOLY. he is constantly patronising amanda and trying to force her into it rather than being genuine even though she’s clearly fed up of it, and he SEES that but he doesn’t CARE because SHES NOT DOING WHAT HE NEEDS HER TO DO. shes not playing the part yet, so he’ll keep using any means necessary (this might relate to that “PRETEND you can go places” line cuz boy pissed me tf off when boy said that)

now what they don’t like is when subjects damage property, themselves, and each other. who does that? AMANDA. she rebels against H*meln by speaking her truth and telling riley whatever she can about H*meln (property) even though she can be reprimanded/hurt for that (herself). she constantly abuses wooly physically, emotionally and sometimes manipulates him. she makes the truth clear to both riley AND wooly and goes against his ideals and his suggestions. she DOESNT let him win because HE doesn’t let her have peace (each other). wooly hates this about her. why can’t she just be like him? why is is so hard?

all of this points to marcus being a H*meln child BECAUSE as someone who has probably spent his entire life in an environment filled with such toxic positivity and straight up BULLSHIT, he’s obviously going to inherit that lifestyle and attitude. wooly acts in H*melns favour so much because HE IS ALMOST QUITE LITERALLY THEM.

GUYS GUYS GUYS. WOOLY HAS A ROOM WOOLY HAS A ROOM WOOLY HAS A ROOM.

I. AM. TWEA. KING. FREE ME FROM THIS GAME

AND NOT JUST ANY ROOM. ITS A FUCKING DRESSING ROOM. WITH A NAMEPLATE. AND A STAR. AND AMANDA IS THERE??? FORCING WOOLY TO COME OUT??? WOOLY IM ALL FOR EXPLORING YOURSELF BUT THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BE DOING THAT RN /j

NO BUT ACTUALLY THIS MEANS SOMETHING I SWEAR I SWEAR IT FUCKING DOES. DUDE WHAT IF THIS IS LIKE HIS ACTUAL BEDROOM IN THE HOUSE WHICH CONFIRMS THEY SHARE THE HOUSE??? AMANDA JUST. REFERENCING THE CHAT IS SOOO FUNNY OMFG I LOVE HER TO PIECES

CAN WE PLEASE NOTICE THE AMOUNT OF WOOLY SASS. THE AMANDA SASS IS GETTING TO HIM IM SO PROUD OF HIM AND IM SO PROUD OF AMANDA YOU KNOW WHY.

SHE SAID THANK YOU. TO WOOLY.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THIS CONFIRMS OUR SUSPICIONS SHES STARTING TO LIKE HIM/TOLERATE HIM AGAIN??? DO YOU UNDERSTAND

amanda hates that wooly is never straight with her and is always hiding something. she combats this by questioning him and his motives and who he’s REALLY helping. and he betrays her. then she hates how he conforms to their abusers and refuses to help her in any meaningful way. she combats that by physically harming him and messing with his feelings. see how YOU like it. isn’t it bad. don’t you wanna help me now.

wooly hates that amanda refuses to stop going against their abusers and listen to his orders. he combats that by manipulating her and twisting her words/wants. but it only works for so long. then he hates how none of his advances work on her anymore. how she cuts him off. how his desperate attempts to mean something to her again are thrown out the window because of something HE did. he combats this by trying to convince her nothing has ever been wrong about her suffering and sucking up to HER just as much. see how unaffected i am. see how you’re overreacting. look at me im fine. now your turn. now you be fine.

cs might be the only one who doesn’t HATE anyone or anything they do. he’s literally a toddler bro. HIS issue is that he’s an obstacle for amanda and wooly when he’s just here to mess around and be silly. he hurts amandas creations. her tools. woolys FACE. this isn’t HELPING with what either of them want to do. his actions don’t benefit EITHER of them. so naturally they team up real quick and chuck him the fuck out. of course failing to realise he could be helpful to BOTH of them if they gave him a moment to. calm down. but they don’t GIVE him that chance quickly enough because he’s MESSING with them and they are rightfully angry.

amanda hates how riley (in some routes) won’t get her message or take her seriously. she combats this by getting mad, upset and as a consequence unleashing her demon to kill them. this can happen almost EVERY time riley has the choice to impress her and gain her trust. even when she fully puts her trust in them more than anyone else she can do this. she can change her mind whenever she wants. she can END THEM whenever she wants. because she’s allowed to put a stop to anything that could potentially harm her. she’s been through enough harm. she’s not taking any chances. the only reason she takes chances at ALL with wooly is because she can’t be permanently rid of him. getting rid of him FAILS to work so she compromises by hurting him until he’s too weak to hurt her. she compromises WITH HIM when she’s too tired to think of a creative way to make him insecure and focus on himself rather than her for the next episode run time.

amanda hurts wooly, riley, and cs technically (i don’t think he cares that much about being chucked in the bin so that doesn’t really count. nothing they do fazes him) if she feels hurt or threatened by them. and by threatened i don’t mean in a feeling intimidated way. i mean in a “this makes my little safety not so safe. fuck that shit” way. should she? no. does she? yes. and it’s fully within her right as an ABUSED CHILD that she does so. because who the fuck else is going to.

ata intrigued me as soon as it showed kids can be bad and cruel and mean as they want when in a situation that harms THEM. that they should be held accountable and taught how to NOT do that. that as long as THEY are being abused they may never learn from their harmful mechanisms until they get HELP. that they often do not GET help because people wait until they act more accordingly to care. that is what ata has been and will always be to me.

both the game and the fandom did that to them. either STRAIGHT villainisation or STRAIGHT sanitisation. it’s like the concept of hurt kids HURTING others is foreign. that everyone they hurt because of their problems has to be WORSE in order to balance it out. what the fuck.

I HATE THIS SYMBOLISM