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Here’s what I wrote:

“this may sound kinda dumb and maybe I'm sorta reaching? But I definitely feel like there's some kind of Parraell between Amanda and Thatcher + Sarah (plus because it's really parraelling the same thing)

Hear me out:

So for Sarah and Amanda it's mostly with how they deal with someone kind of freaking out. First with Evelin then with Julie.

See with Sarah and Evelin Sarah gently introjects saying "hey, you were in love, don't beat yourself up over it!"

But with Julie and Amanda it's A more harsh

"Woah woah woah woah Julie Julie, slow down okay." "...Why? are you even-... [Sigh] what makes you think any of this is real"

There's a clear disconnect between Sarah and Amamda here. Sarah gently introjects with a soft "hey" and validates Evelin. Gently talking to her, telling her not to beat herself up over something like this, then gently reassured her "we'll get this all figured out"

But Amanda more harshly stops Julie, telling her to "slow down"

Then she follows it up with more accusatory questions, starting with "why are you even" before cutting herself off and, in a way, putting her down "what makes you think this is real?” Her tone is harsh, it's not gentle, the opposite of validating, she doesn't make much of an attempt to understand Julie's (very reasonable) concerns (like she watched someone kill themselves dude.)

I think this is clearly meant to show the difference between apathy and empathy, gentleness and a harshness. If that makes sense?

Like Sarah is being nothing but sweet and caring, while Amanda is mostly the opposite!

And I think this is ESPECIALLY shown with the fact that what Sarah cuts off is when Evelin says "I should've listened to Amanda she tried warning me."

clearly it seems (with how Noah talks about Amanda) that she has a reputation on putting people down, to make them feel bad, if mostly unintentionally! And that Evelin is one of those people, and then we see Sarah go directly against that! By being sweet, and understanding!

And with how things are situated in the Julie and Amanda scene , with it being a call similar to Sarah and Evelin, with one venting! It might be trying to parrell it! Showing the differences/ dichotomy you know?

Now how does Thatcher play a role in this? Well- it's the fact that he also parraels Sarah but in all of the ways they are SIMILAR you get what I'm saying?

My main points are these:

First when Amanda says "there's a millon and a half things that you could be woryying about. so, why does this happen to be worth your energy? Julie. You need to put your mental health first"

there's honestly a lot that goes into what she just said because it kinda reads as "well it's not happening in my back yard so... I shouldn't care about it 😤 I’m simply putting my mental health first 🥺” and it’s about a famine that’s wiping out entire orphanages.

But- mostly- it’s kinda?? Anti Thatcher?

We are shown constantly Thatcher is doing the opposite of this. Worrying about everyone and everything. Sacrificing his mental health just to help people!

I think a bit of me wants to interpret this as two ends of a spectrum “caring so much about everything but it destroys you” or “caring for yourself but it destroys others” because both is incredibly important! What’s important is the middle! But neither of them can seem to see that! (Very much similar to the core messages of EPIC the musical BUT this isn’t about that. This isn’t a comparative analysis of EPIC and TMC though those kinds of things are my most favorite things ever)

And my second major point for this is the scene where they’re walking through, what I assume, is Adam’s house but “abandoned” and over grown (it looks like his house but we also see the BPS van still parked there)

This is compositionally INCREDIBLY similar to when *Thatcher* was walking through Adam’s house. like it’s freakishly similar. And I think this is meant to be a clear parallel!

Amanda and Thatcher basically do exact opposites in this situation.

Thatcher stays. Amanda ran. (Very understandably)

Thatcher (seemingly) went through the back (given as we see him FIRST take a picture of the BPS van before entering while Noah sees it through the back doors AFTER he’s already in) and Amanda went through the front. Thatcher helped Adam and stayed for him, helping him despite Adam clearly being an alternate and therefore a face of his trauma. Amanda didn’t even get to see Adam! she doesn’t know that he’s an alternate (and I don’t think Amanda believes in them too much??) but ran away not helping anyone. (Her actions are 100% reasonable btw!! I’m not saying she’s awful for not helping Adam or Noah, and running! I mean- I would run too! What Amanda did was very much a normal persons reaction! And for that reason shows the extent of Thatchers compassion! Because what he did wasn’t normal! Therefore being a reflection of his character! Hence why it’s worth mentioning in this!)

As I said I think these three are meant to kind of parallel eachother. We can see this clearly in format, composition, and characters actions and traits!

Sarah and Thatcher parallel each other by how **similar** they are. How empathetic and understanding they are. How, despite being on “opposite sides” they really aren’t! They’re one and the same. In a sense. People who pour their hearts out and risk everything just because they care about **others** *that* much.

But for Amanda it’s a parallel in the sense that she is the OPPOSITE of them. And how despite being technically on the “same side” as Sarah, she really is not! A lot of what she says and does are things Thatcher and Sarah have done the exact OPPOSITE of!

I just find it interesting!”

Though’s there’s so much more I can say to this and so much more I can add! I can add so much more contextual evidence showing the pure amount or empathy and compassion Sarah and Thatcher both have! AND how they parallel each other! But I didn’t start with that because it would be LENGTHY. And I am still very much struggling with depression so, it would take a lot of mental energy to get to 😭Also! I should note! There’s obviously a lot more that goes into Amanda’s actions! This is focusing more on Thatcher and Sarah, so the way in which I described her was to show how she contrasts the two! But I don’t think Amanda is evil or a bad person or like idk the devil incarnate, not at all! It’s more complicated than that!

Again this isn’t my best analysis and honestly I wouldn’t call it much of one? But it’s a start! An introduction to Sarah and Thatcher!

(Guys trust it’s definitelyyyy not @aneedleandarose why would I ever be them..)

YES I love drawing thatcher!! Drew him with one of those police investigation board things. He’s such a goated character but god this man cannot catch a DAY of rest 😭

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Additionally- there is a list of “divergent stories” which reference the base AUs as a starting off point. These do not happen concurrently. Think of them like AUs of AUs!  All of these stories can be read independently from each other without the need of any further knowledge. But the experience is better if you follow along for the whole ride! 

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OFC OFC! I miss her so much bro why did she have genuinely NEGATIVE screen time in tmc 💔💔

(Guys trust it’s definitelyyyy not @aneedleandarose why would I ever be them..)

YES I love drawing thatcher!! Drew him with one of those police investigation board things. He’s such a goated character but god this man cannot catch a DAY of rest 😭

I’ve got a ton more drawings of them ( mostly Lotusshine), these are just the most recent. Maybe I’ll post the older ones later!

Polites : Lotusshine ( Warrior )

Odysseus : Stormstar / Stormheart ( Leader ) (also idk why it says Tidestar on the drawing don’t mind that)

Eurylochus : Sharptide ( Deputy )

I’m probably going to post a lot about this AU and my other EPIC AU, so be watchinnnggg…..

but the Little Nightmares fandom- the people in it I mean- is like lowkey SOO fucking racist with the Asian characters (which there are many)-which SUCKS as an autistic Filipino just trying to engage in his special interest

Everybody LOVES to ignore that they are Asian/ erase ethnic features in art- and when they

DONT ignore it, it's always with the characters they demonize

I once saw a comment (upon seeing one of the protagonists, *Mono's, face) say something like

"WHY does he look Japanese/ Chinese/ other" (that's literally what they said btw- listed only two countries and just said "other") like l

don't want to sound mean- but like HUH?? What do you mean "why"?? Is it that confusing that a child is Asian like huh???

(*Dont mind the name ALL of these children have like really weird names it's a world building thing)

and don’t even get me STARTED on how this fandom treats the protagonist of the comic series- Descent to Nowhere (Need to clarify the name cause this franchise has multiple comics)  Like I’m not SURPRISED, Myra Wan, the protagonist, is VERY unpalatable to white viewers. I’m not surprised that people demonize her. She’s not that “meek, submissive, and helpless” Asian women that supremacists expect characters like her to be. She’s quite the opposite actually. Very much a character that doesn’t tolerate shitty behavior. She’s not young, she’s middle aged, she’s messy and mentally unwell and as a result struggles with addiction, and at least to me, as an autistic person surrounded by other neurodivergent folks, very clearly neurodivergent or at least not socially “normal”. Myra is NOT a conventional character by any means- it’s EASY to demonize her- she doesn’t fit in the norms and that SCARES people I think. In my opinion, after analyzing her a LOT- Myra is genuinely a very very kind and selfless person. It’s very clear that all she wants to do is help people, especially children. And was pushed to the brink because nobody was LETTING her help people.

But people don’t really…see this. They claim she IS selfish (when she hasn’t done anything at ALL that fits any of the definitions of the word). People say they like her but only ever point out her flaws- while simultaneously praising and uplifting the (much younger) white guy in the story for doing the bare minimum. (And even that’s a bit of a stretch imo but won’t say more because I WILL get attacked…) 

When people DO talk about Myra positively it’s almost ALWAYS to sexualize her. Which of course they do, people LOVE sexualizing Asian women- At the VERY least they’re sexualizing an actual adult this time. Seen some artists in this fandom sexualize a LITERAL nine year old 🫩🫩

PS: SUPER sorry for any mistakes or poor wording! I’m not good at catching mistakes at ALL! And super sorry if I come across as some dumb complainer!

There is so many thoughts I have while reading this, so I'm gonna list them out in "bullet points" but I do want to say beforehand that I am so glad you feel safe here, that's part of the goal! It really sucks that you and other Asian fans have to deal with this when games and other form of entertainment media are meant to serve as escapism🫂🫂

I'm not super familiar with the games or the fandom, but I was surprised finding out (while reading this) that there were multiple Asian characters in the game. Again, I haven't made it through all of the gameplay, but I really thought Seven was the only canonical Asian character. I bring that up because of how rare it is to get multiple distinct Asian characters in a single piece of media that aren't just homogenous stereotypes 😭

"WHY does he look Japanese/ Chinese/ other" (that's literally what they said btw- listed only two countries and just said "other") like l <- HUH?!?!!?!? Apparently Asians can only be Japanese, Chinese, or *gestures vaguely* one of the other now??? Heavens forbid an Asian character looks visibly like an Asian person and has features typical of their people, lest we alienate the white fans who cannot relate to non-white characters/their experiences. We need more variety of mainstream Asian representation that's inclusive of monoracial Asians and mixed Asians because this is ridiculous, goodness gracious

RE: Myra Wan; One of the things that stood out to me when you were describing her (beyond her being an older woman and neurodivergent which I will address) was that she struggles with addiction. I literally realized I could not name you a single Asian character, let alone an Asian woman, off the top of my head who struggles with addiction (in that it's taken seriously and not played off as a joke). It's not like people are weird about characters who struggle with addiction as is, but with Myra, I feel like the model minority myth plays a role here by 1) erasing the reality that Asian people can struggle with mental illness and 2) not be inherently disciplined(?) if that makes sense. If an Asian person isn't super organized or diligent or emotionally regulated, people don't like that because that's what Asians are meant to be praised for. It's viewed as a personal failure of character when Asians did not ask that pressure to be put on them! People are also weird about neurodivergent people and empathy as a whole to be honest.

The hyping up the younger white male character...sigh. That's a topic of it's own and Tumblr reallyyyy struggles with that. But it also reminds me of a post someone tagged us in of white men going to Asian countries and sensationalizing the fact that they're capable of being bilingual

People already don't like female characters who aren't within their comfort confines of "flawed" so I already know that there would be even less grace given to a WOC. Still disappointing

It would be funny if I just horribly traced over Adam in volume six but ONLY trace what’s visible with no inferring

So, here’s my little “tutorial”

Do you guys like it?

This is a blog for a fanmade rewrite of indie horror series “Amanda the Adventurer.”

Being offered a quest by their late aunt Kate, Riley Park embarks on a journey to discover the dark truth of an old children’s show that aired in the 2000s. Little do they know, this journey includes memories from not only their past, but the past of someone dear that they lost.

Follow them as they unravel the mystery that has plagued Kensdale for decades with their new buddies, Amanda and Wooly, buddies that under the surface, hide a deep secret, not only about themselves, but the dark truth about the show’s production.

This blog is not affiliated with MangledMAW games or DreadXP Games. Characters belong to DreadXP Games.

This is also not made to be a “better” version of the original games, but a retelling from the eyes of the game’s fans. This was made with no ill intention, but love for the series and what greatness it gave to its community.

Myra:

- favorite color: some kind of green, the color of nature. Also purple. Myra gives me Purple vibes. I kinda tend to make a lot of things for her in our designs purple tinted, like her eyes and hair.

- favorite food: I don't know, I don't think she cares? She probably doesn't like anything too sweet? Also this is strangely specfic but I feel like her favorite kind of chocolate is any kind with some kind of berry spefically raspberry flavoring/ jelly/ or mixed in.

- any instruments she plays: Cello and drums

- any peircings: she has peirced ear lobes, and that's about it.

- dates or raisins: dates.

- dogs or cats: yep!

- Lizards or birds: mhm!

-Rabbits or Ferrets: 👍

-Cows or Chickens: that's right!

- Horses: most definitely

-Spiders or insects: yeah!

-Fish or slugs: Uh-huh!

- Myra isn’t one to hate any kind of animal. She likes animals.

-Favorite cloud type: Altostratus translucidus

- Little Habits: Myra tends to do little stuff with her hands. As in, methodically fiddling with something, rubbing her tattoo, or pulling at her hair (particularly when stressed) (this is a lot more canon then the rest though tbh)

Thatcher:

- favorite color: green as well! Though more desaturated soft greens, Myra just likes any kind of green that’s found in nature Thatcher more specifically likes more mellow greens. My reasons for this is because (like Myra) Thatcher just gives soft green vibes to us, I tend to make his eyes these colors too. He also likes purple but that’s mostly because he likes Myra/ associates that color with her.

- favorite food: similar to Myra he doesn’t like things too sweet but also doesn’t really care to much. But I also feel like he likes flavors that’s found in papayas and cashews, this sorta buttery-nutty flavor.

- any instruments he plays: Guitar, Bass guitar, and Piano.

- any piercings: he has a lot. Obviously his canon septum piercing, but I also feel like he has a lot throughout his ears, and maybe even a nose bride or lip one.

- dates or raisins: raisins.

- dogs or cats: both.

- Lizards or birds: he feels a little more like a lizard owner if anything but he wouldn’t mind a bird (I just think that if the bird was a little too good at replicating speech it might send him into a panic attack. so for his own health lizards)

- Rabbits or Ferrets: he doesn’t really have a preference.

- cows or chickens: Turkey. (He is fond of Dave’s pet Turkey. But also just- Turkey. He feels like a Turkey kinda guy.)

- Horses: sure

- spiders or insects: he’s terrified of hurting either accidentally. But both if he overcomes that fear.

- Fish or slugs: slugs.

- Favorite cloud type: Altostratus translucidus (he doesn’t know that much about clouds, not really as much as Myra. But he likes Myra. So he likes what she likes.)

Anyways the experiences I want to share is just one that's been bothering me. And I can definitely elaborate and add contextual examples.

This is about the franchise Little Nightmares. And how it's kind of the ONLY series l've EVER seen that's actually about kids,

and the oppression they face. Little Nightmares is practically GRIPPING you by the shoulders and screaming "KIDS HAVE IT SO BAD, ISTG JUST TREAT KIDS LIKE PEOPLE PLEASSEEE" and yet NOBODY sees it or down right refuses to, because they just don't see that message as a problem. They do everything to ignore these themes and twist it into something else. and yes, I know LN is largely up to

interpretation, I know there's technically no "one true interpretation". But it's very very clear with the ENTIRETY of the franchise that one of the intents IS about adultism and it's people refusing to even CONSIDER that, that bothers me so much. Yes it's also about escapism, hunger, corruption, and this and that- but a lot of those themes tie together into ways children are mistreated. It's so evident with how people talk about these games (and the other media it utilizes), how people treat the protagonists (all children except for one- whose a formerly abused child grown up dedicated to helping kids the way she needed in her childhood), that they don't care about children. They demonize these KIDS for not reacting like rational ADULTS in traumatic situations. Turn around and say they're evil or bad for just acting like kids. They focus so muck time and energy on the literal MONSTERS dedicated towards KILLING these children.

And sure there are people who focus on the kids- but it's never ABOUT them ya know? No one really properly recognizes them as children, just as characters, when them being children is intrinsically a part of their identities AS characters. They treat them like they would any other character (adults) which isn't exactly right when they're kids- you can't hold them to the same standards. The amount of times I've seen people basically say "don't treat them like kids" is ASTOUNDING. I know it's annoying and a common thing when people treat adult characters like "their precious children" but that doesn't apply here- They ARE children. I'm aware that perhaps they're telling people not to treat them as soft little objects that can do no wrong- but why is that linked to children? A lot of infantilization and treating characters like kids, is just treating them like little objects to woo at with no agency. "Theyre a grown man they can make their own choices" something like that is often used to get after others for treating characters like kids- when it's wrong because kids CAN make choices, they DO have agency. But at the same time you need to recognize that they're NEW human beings that are LEARNING- they're gonna make mistakes.

It's like the only way for people to see you as human is to treat you like you're an adult I.E someone with a fully developed brain.

I have SOOO much more to say but this is getting to long

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MARCH 13 2026

To send off Black History Month (and as a reminder to learn and celebrate Black History all year round), I wanted to put together a post in tribute to several Black artists who worked on Amanda the Adventurer!

Blair Greene-Osako

🌟 voice of Amanda

Blair Greene-Osako's incredible performance brought Amanda to life, and was the whole reason I first fell in love with this game years ago. You can hear about her voice acting journey and her experience playing Amanda in this interview with Toastymarshmellow (fun fact: her passion for the craft was reignited after seeing a panel with Anairis Quiñones, whose name you might recognize from I Don't Want To Be A Magical Girl!!!).

Anyone who knows these games can attest to her talent (both in voice acting and singing!!!), and it's always wonderful when you can tell a character's actor is also their biggest fan! Suffice it to say, Amanda the Adventurer wouldn't be the same without her.

Greene-Osako is also involved with several other indie projects, one of which being AuTUMNTROSS, a short film by Pidgin Place which serves as a love-letter to the civil and workers rights movements of midcentury America. In a video introducing her character, Ivory, Greene-Osako spoke about her family's own history:

I do come from a family that was very big on the Civil Rights Movement, especially my late Great Uncle Donald Hogan. He was the first Black photographer for the New York Times, and he took a lot of photos during the Civil Rights Movement.

I feel really connected to my family, being part of this project, and I know you guys are really going to enjoy it, especially during these times, you know. Don't give up, fight for what you believe in, and the more people that fight together, the stronger we'll all become.

Reece Themen

🌟 art director of ATA 1-3 | voice of Chickenscratch

Reece Themen has been part of ATA since the very beginning, and his awesome style and art direction gave the game its iconic identity! Not only did he DESIGN AMANDA HERSELF, he also designed her Entity (a.k.a. the Colton Anomaly) and conjured up the name of MANGLEDmaw!!!!

For a glimpse behind the scenes at the more technical side of things he's done on ATA (such as modelling, rigging, and animation), you can watch this Dreadful Dev Diary. And if you're a fan of Hollow Knight, Star Wars, Studio Ghibli, or just cool character designs of all kinds, check out his Instagram!!! You can also find his art and socials on his Artstation!

In addition to art and game development, Themen plays trombone in a protest band called Marching Disorder. Included below is their single "Your Silence," as well as the message and links which accompany it on their Bandcamp.

In Gaza, the void of our silence and inaction bleeds out into an inferno, where Canadian companies rake in profits selling bullets and military equipment to Israel's biggest defence contractors, directly fueling genocide.  We have a stark choice. Do we compel our leaders to act now, impose sanctions and a real two-way arms embargo on Israel, and unblock the pathways for refugees from Gaza to arrive here safely? Or do we sink back into collective, comfortable, murderous silence?  None of this suffering is inevitable or unavoidable. It can end, and we can help bring that about. Our liberation and life are bound up together, the same planet under the same sky from here to Palestine, and no authority can force us back into silence if we make enough trouble, together. 

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Kalima Young

🌟 actress of Caroline in ATA 2

Kalima Young created such a memorable performance as Caroline in ATA 2's Occult Research Meeting tapes that I had to seek out the rest of the work that she's done!! Dr. Young specializes in film, activism, and media studies to uplift and educate about marginalized identities and experiences—namely the intersections of Blackness, queerness, and womanhood. To my knowledge, all her works are linked on her website, and I also recommend checking out her Vimeo!

As a professor, she's spoken on numerous panels which are available to watch online!!!!!!!!! Here you can watch one specifically about the history of Black actors in horror film, a legacy she herself is a part of by virtue of her role in ATA and other horror projects she's acted in!

It never ceases to amaze me just how this game brought together so many talented and creative people, and getting to explore their works beyond ATA has been such an awesome experience!!! In addition to the works I've highlighted here, I highly recommend you seek out these artists' portfolios for yourself. I'm still in the process of doing so, and I look forward to keeping you updated on old projects I think you should check out, as well as new projects on the horizon!

I want to conclude this post with a project of Dr. Young's I experienced this past month. Living Proof is a documentary that chronicles an acting workshop she ran over a decade ago, which acted as a safe space for Black queer youth to build community and express themselves. The workshop culminated in the creation of a play, which you can watch here! I wanted to highlight a quote of hers from the reunion video they made 8 years later:

I would love to live in a town and in a country that actually respected the lives of young people. And when I watch [Living Proof], I see what could possibly be, and it gives me hope. But it also makes me realize, and also continue to pay attention to the fact that we've got a long road ahead of us. "It gets better" doesn't do the trick; it doesn't get better for everybody. And we as adults... especially queer adults—we all have a responsibility to look behind us and lift up.

Most people try to avoid these radio shows but would often times accidentally tune into out of context incredibly awkward poorly written scenes

Anyways here’s a poorly drawn rendition of Myra and Thatcher tuning into one, drawn on FlipaClip with my finger