wow alicent truly has the worst suitors of all time. what a lineup we’ve got
1. suicidal boytoy knight she tolerates at best
2. creepy ex-bff who makes her show toes
3. her literal son
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wow alicent truly has the worst suitors of all time. what a lineup we’ve got
1. suicidal boytoy knight she tolerates at best
2. creepy ex-bff who makes her show toes
3. her literal son

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“She’s just trying to survive and keep Helaena safe. And I think she’s just looking to escape from Aegon and Aemond because... you know, I mean, especially Aemond. He’s very murderous, very scary, very unpredictable.”
tom and ewan’s reaction:
can’t believe we got an aemond alicent kiss but never a jace baela kiss before he became a pincushion 💔
fascinated with the people saying that aemond reaching out to kiss alicent is mischaracterization on alicent’s part and not something integral to aemond’s character that has been established in their relationship and speculated on by the fandom since the driftmark ep. 10-year-old aemond stepping up to defend his mother when viserys wouldn’t to fill the whole of protector to his children and wife is not supposed to be set aside. aemond going back to sylvi after aegon’s coronation—someone who notedly looks a lot like his mother—not to have sex but to simply be held and comforted, something that alicent does not give him, means something. just like aemond being shown time and time again to get jealous of the numerous relationships his mother nurtures, platonic or not, including most notoriously her devotion for rhaenyra, her affection for criston, and the attention aegon demands.
maybe it’s not bad writing. maybe you’ve just not been paying attention.
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i’m gonna talk my shit real quick. the only people who have a problem with Alicent and Aemond are people mad they can’t comfortably fetishise it. siblings, cousins, uncle/niece sure but mom/son? it’s too grotesque and they don’t like that they have to sit with that discomfort. imo it was needed to shock some of y’all’s systems because this fandom is just way to comfortable with incest as a whole. not saying i don’t ship any of the ships but everyone is just too blasé about it.
“but even valyrians didn’t cross that line” i hate to break it to you but there is no line in a family that is literally built on incest. the line between familial and romantic has been eroded. it’s not completely implausible that wires would be crossed in Aemonds mind, that he would begin to see familial romantic and sexual love as one in the same. incest practiced like the Targaryens practice it is corrosive and can’t be contained by arbitrary boundaries. personally i’m they’re showing incestuous abuse for what it is instead of just glossing over it.
S3 Alicent Characterization & Rationalization (so far):
I think the key difficulty with the narrative of Alicent's decision to "give up her sons for Rhaenyra" is that there are two different stories being told simultaneously: the political story and the symbolic/spiritual story.
Politically, her decision is almost impossible to justify. A mother agreeing to hand over Aegon, and by implication condemning Aemond as well, is a shocking violation of what we've seen Alicent value over two seasons. This is why you can go ahead and call it betrayal, character assassination, and overall bad writing. Sure. If we judge the scene purely by realistic maternal psychology, it doesn't quite fit the woman who spent twenty years fighting for her children and ensuring Aegon sat the throne because she believed Rhaenyra's accession endangered them.
But if we read the scene as the culmination of Alicent's religious and sacrificial arc, it's not that Alicent chooses Rhaenyra over her sons; it is that Alicent chooses peace over herself.
Throughout the series, Alicent repeatedly becomes the sacrifice. Otto sacrifices her to Viserys, Viserys sacrifices her happiness to his comfort, the Green Council sacrifices her to their wishes, unruly Aegon sacrifices her dignity, ambitious Aemond sacrifices her authority, and inevitably, the war sacrifices her entire family line while she is cursed to remain alive and see it all unfold. Alicent's entire life is built around being offered up for causes larger than herself.
The tragedy is that by the end of Season 2, she has internalized this logic so deeply that she begins applying it to the people she loves. In that sense, Aegon becomes the final sacrifice on the altar, not because she loves him least, but (as I have theorized and analyzed countless times before) because she loves him most. It's a paradox because Aegon is the child most bound up with her own identity. He is the living consequence of all that has molded and shaped Alicent: Otto's ambition, Viserys' neglect, her youthful suffering, her religious guilt, her failures as a mother, and her complicity in the war. When Alicent looks at Aegon, she sees herself.
Which is why sacrificing him functions symbolically as self-sacrifice. Surrendering a son (at a time when she has nothing else to do or give to end the war) is to surrender the entire meaning of her life. The lie that she based her marriage on, the legitimacy of his coronation, the justification for twenty years of struggle, the notion that she was right to pursue her own ambitions, the ingrained belief that all her suffering had a purpose, and all her past sacrifices were worth it.
If Aegon dies, then everything Alicent endured was ultimately for nothing, and she knows it; that's what makes willingly giving him up feel almost religious. Alicent's faith has always operated through suffering. She understands love through sacrifice, duty through renunciation, and holiness through pain. Alicent has, unfortunately, never learned the lesson that she deserves happiness. Whenever she tries to reach for it, she thinks herself the recipient of divine punishment (see her comments post Blood and Cheese, when she thinks that even her desire for a consensual and fulfilling sexual relationship is contemptible: "the Gods punish us, they punish me." She links Jaehaerys' death to her own "deviant behavior" of "having sullied herself with a lover.")
Through countless years of conditioning and self-sacrifice, Alicent learns the lesson that peace requires suffering. She was able to maintain peace with the Hightowers, Otto, the Green Council, and Viserys through her own suffering. So when confronted with an impossible choice, she reaches for the only language she knows: someone must pay, someone must be offered, someone must suffer so others can live. That is the logic that has governed her entire existence.
What makes the choice particularly tragic is that, as a "queen counting the cost to her people," Alicent seems to believe that, by suffering Aegon's sacrifice she can finally end the chain and restore peace to Westeros, but peace is an elusive insatiable beast that wants to feed off her flesh. She has to give Aemond too, and then more, and more, and eventually all of herself for the peace to come. Alicent has spent her entire life believing that sacrifice creates redemption, but in reality, sacrifice creates only more suffering for her. Alicent sacrifices herself again and again and never finds peace or freedom.
The irony is that by giving up Aegon and Aemond, Alicent truly thinks she is sticking to her duty of making her final sacrificial offering which nevertheless won't save any of her children, the Hightowers, or the realm.
As Rhaenyra grows more convinced of her divine mandate, Alicent becomes the martyr, and martyrs often lose everything. In this framework, Alicent's decision is not really the abandonment of Aegon and Aemond, but the final stage of a lifelong pattern in which she concludes that the only thing she still possesses, the only thing left that is truly hers to give, is her own heart, which happens to be walking around in the form of the children she is destined to lose.
rewatching HOTD and the emotionally incestuosness of the hightowers/TG is just so crazy they're not even doing all that incest for like. honor or tradition. just for the love of the game.