can these sciency⢠youtubers stop using ableist terms when referring to people who donât believe in science? Like, stop making jokes about special ed stop calling flat-earthers r*tarded. Damn, is it that hard to respect disabled people?

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can these sciency⢠youtubers stop using ableist terms when referring to people who donât believe in science? Like, stop making jokes about special ed stop calling flat-earthers r*tarded. Damn, is it that hard to respect disabled people?

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I know the term âtone-deafâ is ableist, unfortunately I am having a hard time thinking of terms to use instead.
Does anyone know of any terms that can be used instead because I do not want to use that term.Â
Ableist terms and replacements
Hey there! I have a little question regarding ableist language. So I know that d*mb and st*pid are slurs and should not be used in any context but I've seen you (and many others) still use the word "silly". In my language (German) all three words can be translated to mean roughly the same or at least have similar meaning. So why is "silly" ok and the other two words not?
silly in English has a very different meaning actually, where âdumbâ means someone who is deaf or mute (and therefore must have low intelligence) and âstupidâ means someone of low intelligence, silly means foolish, often intentionally so, or basically âyou know better than to do this, but you did it anywaysâ and has no connections to suggesting the person whom youâre calling âsillyâ is of low intelligence.
âSillyâ has never been used to target specifically disabled people either, history is important in words. âstupidâ and âdumbâ are words that were developed to describe (and as a result, harm) disabled people, specifically people thought to have âlow intelligenceâ like learning disabled people (including, autism, downâs, adhd, dyslexia, dyscalcula, NLD, etc.). Silly was not (likewise with foolish). The history of the words is also why those two would have ableist connotations, where âsillyâ doesnât.
Iâm personally a little iffy on the use of âstupidâ though, I wouldnât consider it a slur, like id*** or re**** but the term is ableist, because of itâs history and has likely been used more against learning disabled people than non learning disabled people. Itâs a coded word, more than a slur.
right so since many of you reblogged my 'egderp post' telling me to get over it because 'its just a silly joke' i'm going to break it down for you. firstly i would like to add that yes, i don't really have merit to talk in detail about this as i myself do not have downs syndrome. but i have had very close friends who have, and i have seen the impacts words like this can have on them and it just really really gets under my skin to see people saying 'egderp' so casually and thinking its the pinnacle of comedy. you might not see the harm in it, but hey that doesn't mean its okay ! for some people it really does strike a cord! i love how people are so quick to jump in and say 'but we dont mean it like that' oh so, the meaning of a word changes for your convenience does it? what are you trying to convey when you use derp? like honestly think about it? being 'stupid' or 'slow' ? cause guess what that's still linked with people with disabilities. (i would like to add here that i again, i greatly apologise for using the word 'stupid' in one of my rebuttals, even i make mistakes) the whole 'herp derp' internet sensation was used at a way to take a dig at people with disabilities, particularly those with downs syndrome. taking images of them where they may have crossed eyes or arms. its even a dig at some of their speech patterns.
I donât know how widespread this is, but âherp derpâ and âhurr durrâ were both ableist slurs long before the internet. I grew up in the 80s and 90s, where as children weâd mock each other by smacking the sides of our hands against our chests and making âherp derpâ noisesâbasically, imitating the kids with developmental delays in a really offensive way, to indicate that our friends were acting like âretards.â When I say this, most of the people Iâve talked to know EXACTLY what Iâm talking about, but somehow donât make the connection? Or try to act like the terms arenât connected, which frankly I think is bullshit. source
this fandom already has so many disgusting jokes. like honestly the homestuck fandom needs to step up its game and look at some of its widespread 'jokes'. but for now? can we please start to abolish 'egderp' because its ableist, uncreative, and gross.

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Fucking psycho baby killer
Sorry, I've never killed a baby, you sure you have the right person?
you sound like a fucking idiot on the video& every point you come up with is biased and you shooting down another persons belief is rediculous, she's 12 and sounds smarter than you.
Wow that comment was months ago.
Idk, I wasnât aware that scientific sources, backed up arguments to unbiased websites like JAMA and the APA and cancer.org and logic were âridiculousâ. Sheâs 12, sheâs uneducated, has actively used misinformation and disproven claims and you wanna act like Iâm unintelligent and drop ableist terms in my ask box?Â
I mean, at least I can do my research, find credible sources and put my face to my arguments. You donât even have the guts to use your face, you gotta click anon before you can even open your mouth lmao.
Youâre so pathetic itâs actually kinda funny. But do tell, how exactly was her using disproven, unsourced claims and emotional manipulation a more intelligent argument than my scientifically backed and unbiased sources exactly?
Like sorry but âpersonal beliefsâ isnât âI donât believe your facts and proven thingsâ itâs âmint chocolate chip is the best ice cream flavourâ or âGod exists/doesnât existâ. Pointing out someones misinformation isnât âshooting downâ someones beliefs, itâs pointing out someone is factually incorrect and that there is proof to support my argument.