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hi please listen to my fucked up post apocalyptic codependent "I hope you die I hope we both die" sapphic slow burn enemies to enemies/roommates to ??? show about the existential terror of being alive it's a really fun time I promise
A quick reminder-- During the last WGA strike the studios refused to negotiate, walked away from the table, and basically forced the writers into a strike. Then they did everything they could to make sure the WGA took the blame for crew members being out of work, even when the studios refused to go back to the table. Meanwhile during the strike studios bragged at trade shows about how much money they were making with streaming and two studio CEOs took raises that were more than the WGA's wildest-dream-amount opening offers. Not their total salary, mind you. The amount of their raise was more than the WGA was asking for.
They're already gearing up to do all the same things again. So no matter what you read or see in the days to come, there's only one side to blame for this. And it's not the folks walking the picket line.
when the media uses phrases like āthe union is demanding higher payā they want you to think hey wait i wish i got paid better youāre telling me these whiny writers are refusing to work? iām way worse off than them and i still go in to work every day!
they want you to stop there and stew in your resentment instead of following the logic forward to hey maybe if i had a union i would have better pay!
and they say stuff like āworking conditionsā for the same reason because they know it conjures the image of a sweatshop or something and youāre like well thatās absurd writers work in offices how bad could it be they donāt have āworking conditionsā
they want you to stop there and stew in your resentment because you also work in an office instead of thinking about what the word āconditionsā means and whether you are allowed to take off work to be with your newborn child
donāt be fooled by this shit. donāt buy into the idea that people work in any field solely for the love of the game yes even when itās a literal game (writers work on those too). work is work! money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Some of you may have heard this already, but rural carriers in the USPS just got fucked over. (note: i myself am not a usps employee, but my partner is)
USPS and the National Rural Letter Carriers' Association (NRLCA) have disagreed on how to price the volume of work for the rural routes. City (walking) routes get paid hourly, but rural routes get paid salaried. After disagreeing, the matter went to arbitration and the arbitor chose a complicated algorithm for determining the pay by volume, and it goes into effect this week. People are losing thousands of $ a year. Most between 5%-30% of their wage just.. gone. My partner only lost $4000 off their wage, but someone he works with lost $10,000 off their yearly income. A person on reddit is saying they lost $18,000.
The USPS always gets the short end of the stick, but this is going to throw things into chaos. USPS workers are unable to strike, so they don't have much ability to fight back. (though some have been talking about illegal strikes...) They can file a grievance within their union, but it's a gamble on if it will work.
How you can help: please make a fuss about this. Contact your local reps. Share this on social media. Tell your friends.
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Chapter 11: The In Between & Chapter 12: Second Chances have been released. Be sure to listen and rate/review (if possible) and follow the series on your chosen platforms, if you havenāt already!Ā
Iām going to give everyone some time to listen to the episodes before I start reblogging posts relating to it. When I do start posting, everything that relates to episode 11 will be tagged with #s2ep01 & episode 12Ā will be tagged #s2ep02! I also use the #spoilers tag for posts that contain quotes or character/plot reveals! Add those tags to your blacklists if you canāt listen to the episodes yet and donāt want any spoilers.
Thought this was very fun and surprised it got my type right! The typeanalyzer website is down but if you scroll to the bottom you can see the individual site links which do actually work.
Alex Jones must pay $965 million in damages to numerous families of victims of the 2012 Sandy Hook mass shooting for falsely claiming they were actors who faked the tragedy, a Connecticut jury said on Wednesday, marking the second multimillion-dollar verdict against the conspiracy theorist in just over two months.
This is a great start. May this despicable, cruel, paranoid, psychopath die penniless, alone, and afraid. Ā
Bury him in a rest stop bathroom so generations can piss on his grave.
After officially being delayed due to cast scheduling conflicts, Bridgewater season 2 has officially gotten a new release date! According to Aaron Mahnke, you can expect Bridgewater to hit your podā¦
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I have been listening to some of the Enneagram at the movies. I plan to listen to more including the individual profiles . What is your impression of the different take they have on the instincts? I find them intriguing still trying to understand how the work with each type.
They do a poor job of explaining their take on the instincts (and so far I haven't been able to find any full-length descriptions using these names), but it appears to be...
sx = "transmitting"
soc = "navigating"
sp = "preserving"
I managed to find this article about it, in which it seems like their take on the instincts is the typical pre-Enneagrammer take, which means it's built out of the old instinct type structure (with a neutered sx instinct that is more one-on-one, and the stereotype about social being group-oriented rather than relationship-oriented). So I take their subtype comments with a grain of salt.
DASHBOARD DIARIES, EPISODE 1 - Tumblr, the Supernatural Website
In our inaugural episode, we delve into our own Tumblr origin stories and skim the surface of one of Tumblr's longest lasting fandoms: Supernatural. Warning: many, many incorrect things are said about Supernatural in this episode. Proceed at your own risk. And drop questions/comments/corrections about ways Dean Winchester has died in our ask box or email us at [email protected]!
Find the posts discussed in this episode in this tag!
Credits and transcript under the cut. You can find transcripts for this, and every other episode, here.
Dashboard DiariesĀ is a production of Atypical Artists, hosted byĀ Lauren Shippen and Cherokee McAnelly. Our theme was composed byĀ Lauren Shippen and mixed by Brandon Grugle. Art by Shae McMullin.Ā Transcription (which can be found on our Tumblr) by Laudable.
[intro music]
Lauren: Hello, last of the classically trained tumblrāinas. Iām Lauren Shippen, professional writer, and veteran stucky shipper, who is surrounded by not one, not two, but three artistic renderings of the line, āIāll be with you until the end of the line.ā I like to surround myself in stucky love.
Cherokee: I am Cherokee McAnelly, professional tumblrāer and veteran Twihard, who once brought a team threesome sign to a midnight viewing of Eclipse. And Iāve also re-blogged more than 50,000 posts not all about Twilight, but thereās an influence.Ā
Lauren: Wow. Thatās, that is hefty.Ā
Cherokee: You know ... Canāt stop. Wonāt stop.Ā
Lauren: And this is Dashboard Diaries, your deep dive guide into the wild, wonderful world of Tumblr. And this is our first episode, Cherokee.Ā
Cherokee: Iām excited. Are you excited?
Lauren: Me too. Iām so excited.
Cherokee: I feel great. (laughs)
Lauren: And for this first week, this Episode Zero, if you will, weāre gonna hit on some Tumblr classics and also talk about our own relationship to this wonderful website. I guess to start us off, Cherokee, do you want to tell me about what the last week on Tumblr was like for you?
Cherokee: Absolutely.Ā
Lauren: Weāll start there and weāll work our way back to the origin story.Ā
Cherokee: I would love nothing more, Lauren. So, this has been a big week on Tumblr, as it always is. Last week, Stranger Things - Part II premiere. And we did a big Stranger Things takeover. It was fun. I spent my entire day re-blogging community posts about Stranger Things. And this week has really been about Eddie. Big Eddie week, I would say.
Lauren: Yep.
Cherokee: And on top of that, and most recently, Thor: Love and Thunder came out today.
Lauren: Yes.
Cherokee: I have not seen it yet. But I did do some light scrolling to prepare for this and I have sadly seen spoilers, but Iām kind of okay with it just because I feel a little more attached now.Ā
Lauren: Yeah, that is a risk that we take when we scroll our dash. And a risk you take listening to this podcast. Letās be honest. We might get into some spoiler territory. I also saw a bunch of Stranger Things stuff this past week. And I did watch the entire Volume II of Stranger Things in, like, a day. So, I was prepared to dive into the Tumblr world. And have been seeing mostly Eddie.
Cherokee: Yeah.
Lauren: A lot of love for Eddie.Ā
Cherokee: I think Eddie is perhaps blorbo of the week?
[fanfare music]
Lauren: He might be.
Cherokee: Heās big. I feel attached to Eddie. I also watched Stranger Things Part II in one sitting and have a lot of emotions about it.
Lauren: Yeah. (laughs)
Cherokee: Yeah.Ā
Lauren: I ... Oh man, speaking of a lot of emotions. I guess this is a little bit of a spoiler for a specific scene in Stranger Things Volume II finale. The scene with Max and Lucas and the house ... That got me real good. I was crying pretty hard at that. Just some fantastic acting from those two actors.
Cherokee: Oh my gosh, truly incredible. I did have to pause it to breathe a couple times. Sometimes when scenes are a little too intense-
Lauren: Mm hmm (Affirmative)
Cherokee: ... intense, you take a step back, take a moment, before ...
Lauren: Yeah, you maybe gotta stand up and walk around your apartment. Take a lap before coming back to it.
Cherokee: And thatās when Vecna gets you. Thatās when youāre most vulnerable.
Lauren: Yes. Yeah.Ā
Cherokee: What would your Vecna song be? What would get you out of The Upside Down?
Lauren: Iāve been listening to the Boys of Summer cover by Atari a lot recently. (laughs)Ā
Cherokee: Specific and I love it.
Lauren: Yeah, so I feel like that could get me out of Vecnaās grip in the here and now. Thatās what Iām feeling currently. What about you?
Cherokee: Well, Iāll preface with roughly quoting a Tumblr post, which said if Iām stuck in The Upside Down, just let me go because I canāt for the lift of me pick one song.Ā
Lauren: (laughs)
Cherokee: And honest ... there are two. And Iām still gonna say two. I think they would be equal. Dreams, by The Cranberries.Ā
Lauren: Oh, great song.
Cherokee: And Torn, by Natalie Imbruglia.Ā
Lauren: Oh! Great song!
Cherokee: Two favs. I think those would help me get out.
Lauren: A strong showing from the ā90s here in this podcast recording today.
Cherokee: Yeah. I mean, always. I would always run back to ā90s. What, ā90s kind of like rock pop. Pop rock? I donāt know. I love The Cranberries.Ā
Lauren: Yeah.
Cherokee: And I love Torn, by Natalie Imbruglia. I couldnāt name another one of her songs but Torn, I mean, thatās all you need.
Lauren: Thatās all you need. Thatās all you need.
Cherokee: Look at that. Yes.Ā
Lauren: We are two nineties babies.Ā
Cherokee: On the same wavelength.
Lauren: And we understand each other. (laughs)Ā
Cherokee: (laughs)Ā
Lauren: While weāre delving into the depths of our past, I feel because itās our first episode, we should talk about our Tumblr bona fideās. You know? How long have you been on the site? What has your relationship to the site been? Give me the whole bio.Ā
Cherokee: Oh, we go way back. Weāve had ups. Weāve had downs. Weāve had preppy eras.
Lauren: Sure. (laughs)
Cherokee: (laughs)Ā
Lauren: The hipster, girly things phase of Tumbler.
Cherokee: Yes. Iāve changed now. Just not for the better, unfortunately.Ā
Lauren: (laughs)
Cherokee: I actually was going back on my archive to prepare for this pilot recording and I realized Iāve been on Tumblr ten and a half years now. So, big anniversary.
Lauren: (whistles)
Cherokee: I joined in January of 2012.
Lauren: Wow.
Cherokee: And ...
Lauren: Congratulations.
Cherokee: I mean, thank you.Ā
Lauren: Ten years.
Cherokee: Itās been an honor, really, to haunt the halls of the dashboard. (laughs) If you will. But yeah, I actually looked back at my first ever post was an extremely high contrast early Instagram, like square photo of the beach that Iād added the Veranda filter onto or something. You know?Ā
Lauren: Oh, perfect.
Cherokee: I feel like the perfect way to kick myself off, or kick it off on Tumblr. I actually got on Tumblr because my freshman year of college I decided, āLook, Iām going to reinvent myself.ā Sheās different. Sheās 18. She lives in New York now.Ā
Lauren: (laughs)
Cherokee: My style needed to change, too. And I was saving inspo for outfits and whatever in a Word document like a collage.Ā
Lauren: Oh ... my ... goodness.
Cherokee: Yes. And my freshman college roommate who is my best friend to this day ... So, she introduced me to Tumblr ... said, āWhat the hell are you doing?ā And I was like, āOh-ā
Lauren: [crosstalk 00:06:23]
Cherokee: āI think I need a room transfer if youāre going to continue doing whatever this is.āĀ
Lauren: (laughs)
Cherokee: And she was like, āYouāre gonna be shocked. I need to tell you about Tumblr.ā
Lauren: What a good friend.
Cherokee: And so, yeah. And then I got on Tumblr and never stopped. And have not stopped as it turns out.
Lauren: And now work for Tumblr.Ā
Cherokee: Yeah.
Lauren: I mean, youāve turned that love of Tumblr into a job.
Cherokee: Indeed I did. They canāt get rid of me. They tried. Not actually. So, essentially I interned there my senior year of college and they didnāt have any open roles after I left and I really wanted to work there. So, I essentially just kept refreshing the jobs page and going to every single event possible. Like, they had happy hours, they had stuff, I was there all the time. My new internship was a few blocks down the street. And finally a job role opened. I applied within probably seconds of it opening.Ā
Lauren: Incredible.
Cherokee: And thankfully got hired as the on-boarding associate.Ā
Lauren: Ooh.
Cherokee: When they were presenting me at All Team, our team meeting where they introduce new people, multiple people came up after and were like, āYou left after your internship? We were not aware, ācause you are always here.āĀ
Lauren: (laughs)
Cherokee: (laughs) And so that is the story of how I got my job at Tumblr. I just hung around enough honestly. (laughs) Everyone interviewing me was like, āYou seem dedicated enough. I donāt really have many questions for you. I feel like you get it. Youāre here anyway. So, we might as well add you to payroll.āĀ
Lauren: Yeah, might as well put you to work.Ā
Cherokee: Yeah. How about you?
Lauren: I have been on Tumblr a long time. I joined sometime in late 2008, early 2009. So, itās been 13 or 14 years for me on this website. And I never left. I never left. And thatās partly because I just sort of move from hyper fixation to hyper fixation. So, I always have a fandom that Iām obsessing over.Ā
But I also just really like the vibes in there. You know? Is the one social media that Iāve had since I was a teenager that I never want to give up. And I also just love diving into parts of Tumblr that Iām not necessarily a community member of. Many years ago now at this point, this would have been 2013, 2014 through 2016, 2017, I had a YouTube series, which you can no longer find, because I scrubbed it from the internet, called āAccording to Tumblr,ā which was me trying to explain Tumblr fandomās or trying to explain TV shows, books series, et cetera, based on what I was reading in the Tumblr tag. So, trying to summarize TV shows basically based on what the fandom is talking about.Ā
So, it was a humorous series about differences between fandom and canon and all of that kind of stuff. And thatās sort of also how this podcast started. (laughs) Because I came to you a couple months ago and then said, āI kind of wanna bring this back in some form,ā and you were so game. Because you feel as passionately about Tumblr as I do.Ā
Cherokee: No, I am obsessed with Tumblr. It is unfortunately/fortunately imbedded in my personality at this point.
Lauren: (laughs)
Cherokee: I love it so much. I talk about it all the time. My friends are definitely ... which my entire friend group, by the way, were/are Tumblr employees largely.Ā
Lauren: Right, of course.
Cherokee: We stick together. But yeah, theyāre probably very tired of me talking about Tumblr constantly. Because itās, āWhatās going on this week? Guess what? Miss Marvel premiered.ā Whatever it is, Iāve already ... (laughs)
Lauren: Yeah.Ā
Cherokee: So, yeah, Iām really excited to be really earnest with you biweekly.
Lauren: And while you work for Tumblr, this is not an official Tumblr podcast. I feel like we should mention that disclaimer. But itās got the Tumblr stamp of approval, as it were. Theyāre happy weāre doing it.
Cherokee: Yeah, itās like a friendship.
Lauren: Theyāre into it.
Cherokee: Yeah.
Lauren: It is.
Cherokee: But yeah, this is just me fangirling over the place that I already work, as it turns out. But this is not an advertisement, folks. This is just being miley.Ā
Lauren: Yeah. Pure earnest excitement. All Tumblr, all the time.Ā
Cherokee: Always be fixating.Ā
Lauren: Always be fixating. Oh, thatās great. We should make a sticker with that.
Cherokee: Absolutely. We could add it to the poster, the little [crosstalk 00:10:48].
Lauren: Oh, yes. Yeah. Please go and look at our art. We will post the banner version of it because it is so gorgeous. Shay McMullen, our artist, put all of these beautiful little Tumblr jokes in the art and itās incredible. And I keep staring at it because I love it so much.Ā
Cherokee: It really is wonderful. I almost made it my LinkedIN header and I was thinking, āIs that too far, perhaps?ā Itās not my whole identity, maybe? It was a consideration, though. Maybe Iāll just make it my computer background to really ...Ā
Lauren: Yeah. I mean, listen ...
Cherokee: Experience it.
Lauren: This is the first episode. Thereās plenty of time. All right. One segment that we are going to be doing repeatedly on this show is dashboard confessionals.Ā
[guitar riff]
Which is when we dive into our own Tumblr archive and pick something at random that we were blogging about X years ago on this date or on any random date. So, Cherokee, what do you have for me?
Cherokee: I have something that I also just Slacked to you, or messaged to you, via Zoom so that you can experience it as well.Ā
Lauren: Excellent. (laughs)
Cherokee: It is an oldie but a goodie. The post is, āI love high contrast photos of fruit floating threateningly in the night.ā Iām sure if youāve been on Tumblr for any number of hours you have likely seen this one.Ā
Lauren: Mm hmm (Affirmative).
Cherokee: And someone replies, āI donāt believe such a thing exists.ā And Coco Lou who is the OP said, āOf course it does exist,ā and shared some high contrast photos of fruit floating threateningly in the night. Which I think should also perhaps be a tongue twister that people do before, I donāt know, recording a podcast.
Lauren: No kidding. Itās really amazing how itās impossible to image based on the description what that photo would look like, and then you see the photo and youāre like, āOh yeah, that is fruit floating threatening in the night.ā
Cherokee: Obviously. Yeah. (laughs)
Lauren: Thatās exactly what that is.Ā
Cherokee: Honestly, it may be one of my favorite classic Tumblr posts. I think I re-blogged this in 2013.Ā
Lauren: Itās been a long time since Iāve seen it. Thank you for bringing it back into my life. Because I do very much enjoy it.
Cherokee: Youāre so welcome, to be threatened by that fruit. My gift to you.
Lauren: Itās very threatening.Ā
Cherokee: And we will be re-blogging it to DashboardDiaries.Tumblr.com ā so you, too, can be threatened by fruit floating in the night.
Lauren: (laughs) So, seven years ago I re-blogged on this day a compilation of Jean Ralphio singing. I will also re-blog that to our DashboardDiaries.Tumblr.com because it is excellent. If you are unfamiliar with Jean Ralphio, he is Ben Schwartzās character from Parks and Rec. He is probably most famous for, āthe worst.ā Thatās kind of his tagline. And also, āDonāt be suspicious.ā Donāt Be Suspicious with Jenny Slate. Itās fantastic. Just so many good moments.Ā
Cherokee: I love Jean Ralphio and Ben Schwartz. That character ... one of my all time favorite television characters, to be honest.Ā
Lauren: I mean, so meme-able.Ā
Cherokee: So meme-able.Ā
Lauren: Even now, today, in 2022 we are still memeāing Jean Ralphio and I think thatās beautiful. What was your very first fandom on Tumblr would you say, that you kind of participated in or were very active as a viewer?
Cherokee: Hmm. Very first fandom that I participated in on Tumblr ... Gosh, what a multilayered question. Because honestly my first few years on Tumblr I was want to say in the preppy lifestyle fandom.Ā
Lauren: Mm hmm (Affirmative).
Cherokee: I re-blogged all the, āIf youāre a preppy blog follow this.ā And that was my jam. But I think when I started actually working at Tumblr, which was in 2014 and I became full time in 2015. That was when a lot of ... I think that was around the time that Thor: Ragnarok came out in 2016. And so the MCU, especially Taika Waititi and his tie in to the MCU. I really participated very, very actively in that fandom. And I would also say another fandom that is a little, I donāt know ... I donāt know if you would even consider it a fandom. I would. I think the 2000s and ā90s fandom, in general.Ā
Lauren: Yes.
Cherokee: Like, 2000 ish is one of my favorite Tumblrās. And I just really love the kind of like throwback, Lindsay McGuire, and Thatās So Raven kind of content.
Lauren: Yeah.
Cherokee: I think the nostalgia in 2000 ish fandom is the one that really I started with and have continued through. But if weāre talking about specifics I would say the MCU just in general I think that me starting, working at Tumblr and being just really into the MCU kind of probably aligned very well. [crosstalk 00:15:45]
Lauren: MCU is a great fandom to be on Tumblr for because, what, itās been around for as long as Tumblr has. I mean, because Iron Man came out in 2008 and Tumblr launched in, what, 2007, 2008? So, they come hand in hand. And also thereās always something going on which is really nice. Thereās always a new thing being added to the MCU. Which is fabulous.
Cherokee: Always something MC-new.
Lauren: (laughs) In case itās not clear by this point, Cherokee will be the pun captain of this show.Ā
Cherokee: I apologize.
Lauren: You are so good at coming up with puns. No, itās great. I love it. I love it.
Cherokee: No, itās a passion, I would say. If I was in that fandom, too, I would say ... I mean, I was once a semi finalist at the Punderdome, not to brag.Ā
Lauren: Is that a thing? Are you making another pun or is this is a real thing?
Cherokee: It is a thing. No, unfortunately, it is a thing, and it is a thing Iāve done multiple times.Ā
Lauren: Please explain this to me.
Cherokee: (laughs) So, the Punderdome, it was, pre pandemic, Iām not sure if itās still happening, but every Tuesday in Brooklyn there was this free-for-all pun competition. It went for four hours. Anyone could join-
Lauren: Oh ... my ... god.
Cherokee: ... you had to ... But there were people who had been punning there monthly for years. And essentially how it worked was everyone, youāre called up on stage in kind of like waves, groups of six, and youāre given a topic. For example, āold Hollywood.ā And you have a whiteboard and you have 90 seconds to write down as many puns as you can think of that tie into this and then you have to go up and say your puns, but in kind of like a cohesive story kind of way.Ā
So, you would be like, āI was walking down the Marilyn Mon-road today. And what did I see but the Holly woods.ā You know? That kind of-
Lauren: Oh my gosh.Ā
Cherokee: ... thing. And it was judged by clapping, essentially. So, a very scientific way to judge it. And the prizes were generally made for TV or āas seen on TV stuff. Really random shit.Ā
Lauren: Thatās perfect.Ā
Cherokee: It was excellent in every way. I really actually like being a semifinalist because it did sometimes go till 11:30 at night on a Tuesday and semifinalists, you know, if you get cut youāre out by 9:30, which was a respectable Tuesday evening, I feel.
Lauren: Oh my goodness.Ā
Cherokee: But I hope one day to become a Punderdome winner. That would really be my biggest accomplishment.
Lauren: A real feather in your cap.Ā
Cherokee: Yeah. (laughs)
Lauren: (laughs) That is the most specific form of improve Iāve ever heard of in my life. I love that.Ā
Cherokee: I didnāt even put the two together and now Iām realizing, yeah, itās just ... Which honestly, if I was going to get into any specific kind of comedy or improve it would be punning. Iām sure. Weāve gotten so sidetracked and I apologize. What were we ... Oh, we were on fandomās.
Lauren: First fandomās.
Cherokee: What was your first fandom, if not the punning fandom, Lauren?
Lauren: (laughs) Deep, deep into the punning fandom. I was also very much in not necessarily the preppy side of Tumblr but kind of the aesthetic hipster side of Tumblr. I was really into nice photos and music. I was blogging a lot about music. And I didnāt really get into fandom Tumblr until I guess it had been early middle or college. BBC Sherlock came out in 2010. End of 2010 it came out in America. Because I remember I watched it over Christmas break. And that is absolutely my first Tumblr fandom. It was a slow burn at first. You know? After the first season I dove into some fan fic and dove into following some Sherlock blogs, but there wasnāt a ton of activity going on yet. And then by the end of season two it was just enormous. And I would say SuperWhoLock is a massive part of Tumblr culture. And weāre gonna get to a big part of that later on.Ā
But the Lock part of SuperWhoLock was definitely my initial interaction with SuperWhoLock and also my main fandom. I was not necessarily a very active blogger within the Sherlock fandom, but I followed a bunch. I re-blogged a bunch. I made a couple of memes that did okay notes wise. I wonāt tell you which memes they were because then youāll be able to find all of my old blogs. But, yeah, I had a great time. And I am sure that one of these days we will do an episode on the Johnlock conspiracy because that is a huge part of Tumblr lore. And boy was I inside of that when it was all happening. An insiderās perspective.Ā
Cherokee: I cannot wait for the expose episode on that one. As an outsider, I have thoughts as well of course. Well, an inside-outsider I would say to the SuperWhoLock community. So, you started with Lock and then did you go to Super or Who next?
Lauren: I have always been a scattered viewer of Who. I have not seen every episode. I have seen some episodes of every Doctor. And Iām absolutely going to jump in and watch the new one, because Mizero Ncuti Gatwa from Sex Education, the new doctor, is amazing. Iām obsessed with this character in Sex Education. So, Iām very excited about that. But, yeah, my next fandom of the SuperWhoLock that I dove deep into was our main topic for today.Ā
[game show trill]
Supernatural.
Cherokee: Woo! A show I know so much about.Ā
Lauren: So, my relationship with Supernatural ... For those of you that donāt know what Supernatural is ... (laughs) ... First of all, how did you find this podcast?Ā
Cherokee: Are you okay?
Lauren: And second of all, are you okay? Did you just wake up from a coma? Supernatural is a television show that ran on the WB/EW for 15 years. It ended last year. And is a huge, huge part, even to this day, post the show being on, a massive part of Tumblr culture. And I hadnāt seen the show until about 2016, 2017. But the first video I ever did for recording Tumblr, this YouTube series I used to do, was me trying to explain what I thought the plot of Supernatural was as just as passive Tumblr user who wasnāt even following any Supernatural blogs but still absorbed a lot of Supernatural.Ā
So, we thought for our first episode of the show it would be fun to have Cherokee do the same thing and have you try to explain the plot of Supernatural to me based on Tumblr and as somebody who has never actually seen more than a handful of episodes of the show. Right?
Cherokee: Yes. So, Iāll give you a little context on my experience with Supernatural, ācause it does go way back despite me not seeing the vast majority of episodes.
Lauren: We all go way back with Supernatural.
Cherokee: Yeah. If youāve been on Tumblr for more than a minute or so you go way back with Supernatural. Youāre part of the community, I really think. And it is an open and accepting wayward community. I know some things.Ā
Lauren: Oh yeah, you know some things.Ā
Cherokee: (laughs) So, essentially, my first thing I ever did when I started at Tumblr, my first big kind of partnership entertainment kind of campaign was with Misha Collins for Dish Whiz which is the Greatest International Scavenger hunt the world has ever seen, if youāre not familiar. And he does this big scavenger hunt and so we decided to do a virtual one on Tumblr during a Supernatural convention.Ā
Lauren: [inaudible 00:23:14]
Cherokee: And so we were doing this big 48 hour massive scavenger hunt with a whole bunch of the cast of Supernatural involved and people from other shows like Once Upon a Time and shows like that, I think William Shatner briefly was almost involved. He didnāt end up being involved, but that was going to be really exciting. But anyway, so I went to this Supernatural convention and spent 48 hours locked in a conference room with Misha Collins. Locked ... no, I was willingly having a great time in this conference room. But essentially running this scavenger hunt. And so one of my co-workers, the great Amanda Brenan, who you also may ā if youāve been on Tumblr for a while ā be familiar with.
Lauren: Love Amanda!
Cherokee: We love Amanda.
Lauren: Sheās fantastic.
Cherokee: Sheās a gem. Our meme librarian was her title at the time. I think it might still continue to be.
Lauren: Incredible.Ā
Cherokee: Icon. And she is also a huge Supernatural fan. She said, āLook, you canāt go to this unless you have seen key Supernatural episodes.ā So, this was back in 2016. I canāt even remember the specific episode she showed me anymore. I think it was maybe the first episode and then a few ... I think she picked five and we booked a conference room at the Tumblr office and piled in. And she would pause it-
Lauren: Thatās incredible.
Cherokee: ... and be like, āOkay, this is this character. Heās a cinnamon bun.ā (laughs)
Lauren: (laughs)Ā
Cherokee: And so thatās kind of the experience that I have so far for Supernatural. Iāve seen probably six to seven episodes in total.
Lauren: Okay. All right. And spent a day in a conference room with Misha Collins.Ā
Cherokee: Yes, which is all the Supernatural knowledge you need, really. I feel like I got it by osmosis.Ā
Lauren: I mean, honestly. I do feel like we should both make a disclaimer that we both have worked with Misha Collins personally.Ā
Cherokee: Hi, Misha!
Lauren: Hi, Misha! I was literally speaking to him yesterday about Bridgewater, season two. I write a podcast that Misha stars in. He is the sweetest man on the planet. Just absolutely great. Itās always a nice thing to discover that a Tumblr fav is a fav for a good reason. Heās just a lovely person.Ā
Cherokee: Truly such a gem. Have loved the few times that Iāve gotten to work with him. And I am so sorry, Misha, for not having seen every episode of Supernatural. Iāll do better.
Lauren: (laughs) There are a lot of them.Ā
Cherokee: Yes. Itās a process. Itās a marathon, not a sprint. You know?
Lauren: It really is.
Cherokee: If I start now I can be done by the time Iām 40.Ā
Lauren: Exactly. Just pace it out.Ā
Cherokee: Yeah, exactly.
Lauren: So, I mean, based on those six to seven episodes that youāve seen of Supernatural and your many years on Tumblr, give me the highlights? What is Supernatural about? What are the big moments? Letās go.Ā
Cherokee: Okay. So, Supernatural is about two brothers: Dean and the other brother.Ā
Lauren: (laughs)
Cherokee: Whoās mom dies on the ceiling and then ... by fire. And then decide that they must ... They are demon fighters or they must fight demons or they want to find who killed their mom. I think their dad is briefly involved. I think he comes in at one point. They have a car. Itās an Impala. Itās gray.
Lauren: Mm hmm (Affirmative).
Cherokee: No, brownish? Beige? They have a car. Itās an Impala. They like the song, āCarry On Wayward Son.ā And in every episode they go around slaying the monster of the week, or the demon of the week, but apparently after season two or three itās less demon of the week and more these big Heaven/Hell kind of threats, big existential threats, all the demons have arrived. And then thereās Misha who plays Castiel, who is an angel of ... heās an angel. And he comes down in a trench coat and I canāt decide if he helps or hinders them. I think it might be a mix of the two. So, heās around and thereās a big ship, Destiel which is Dean and Castiel, which became vaguely canon on November 5th, 2019.Ā
Lauren: I thought it was 2020.
Cherokee: 2020? Okay, sooner than I thought.
Lauren: It was 2020, because it was also election day.Ā
Cherokee: Oh, god.
Lauren: Or it was the Thursday after election day. Right? It was when ... the pandemic. Weāll get to that. Weāll get to November 5th.Ā
Cherokee: So, yeah. Remember, remember, the fifth of November.Ā
Lauren: Exactly.
Cherokee: So, they fight these demons and thereās like purgatory, I think some of them may be stuck in it. Thereās a lot of puzzles and clues I think. Thereās some relics from the dead. Osric Chau plays Kevin Tran who can read the Bible. I forget what his thing is.Ā
Lauren: (laughs)
Cherokee: (laughs) And he sadly dies, RIP. And I think that they really love Kevin Trans because thatās a big plot point as well. I saw those episodes and itās been a minute. And so anyway, yeah. Dean and, god, what is the other brotherās name. I swear I genuinely know.
Lauren: Oh my god, did you legitimately forget?
Cherokee: I legitimately ... Iām trying to remember. Iām like, god, I know this. But my brain just keeps being like, āDean and Eddie.ā Which obviously it isnāt ... Iām merging Stranger Things. But itās Jared and Jensen and Misha and theyāre all buddies. How did I do?
Lauren: So, I was taking notes on my phone during that. Because there were so many things that ... itās so funny, there were so many things that you said that were so similar to the way that I described supernatural, as a person who hadnāt seen it. Which that video actually is still online and I will share it on our Tumblr because I think it will be a funny comparison point of how I define Supernatural based off of Tumblr back in 2014. Obviously, the show wasnāt over yet, so you had more context. I think my favorite thing is the idea that the Impala is beige. (laughs)Ā
Cherokee: Is it not? What color is it?
Lauren: No, itās black.
Cherokee: Oh. (laughs) I think Iāve been in it.
Lauren: Oh my god, Cherokee. So, the Impala, āBaby,ā as sheās known, thank you very much.
Cherokee: Beige-by.Ā
Lauren: (laughs) Is a black Chevy Impala that is mostly driven by Dean, although sometimes Sam, the other brother, does drive it.Ā
Cherokee: That word had completely left my head. I never would have gotten āSam.āĀ
Lauren: Itās so funny. Yeah, I would say that probably ... Obviously there are Sam girls out there, we love you, we love all the characters, we love everybody who loves the show. But I would say, at least in my circles, I think Dean is probably the main borbo of the two brothers on Tumblr. And then of course Castiel whoās name you got right. I, having only seen it typed out, thought it ... I pronounced it CAST-YEEL. He is an angel. Heās the angel of Thursdays in actual Christian lore Castiel is the angel of Thursdays. I donāt know if that ever comes up in Supernatural or not. Not to my memory.Ā
Yeah, I think actually helping and hindering is a good description of Cas. He normally ... I mean, he usually helps. Heās definitely on Team Freewill as itās known, which is the three of them, and then eventually Satanās son, Jack, which is a whole other thing ... but sometimes Cas get possessed by Leviathans or Satan or goes crazy, or what have you.
Cherokee: It happens to the best of us.
Lauren: It happens to the best of us. Everybody in the show is possessed at some point. And which is fun, because you get to see the actors try different things, which is always exciting. And, oh my gosh, what else did you say? Oh yeah, Kevinās skill being able to read the Bible. Youāre not wrong, but thatās just the funniest way to phrase it. As if the Bible is something that only certain people are allowed to read. (laughs)Ā
Cherokee: Itās like the Declaration of Independence in National Treasure where itās like secret codes.
Lauren: Well, I mean, thatās actually pretty close. Kevin is a prophet. And so he can read angel texts basically and he hears voices. Itās been a couple seasons since that was a thing. So, Iām forgetting the finer points of that plot. But I would say you did pretty well. I mean, you got the big stuff. They do go to Purgatory, or rather Dean and Cas go to Purgatory at one point.
Oh and then Dean and Cas go back to Purgatory in the final season to get a flower. Thatās a very emotional episode. But I donāt know that Sam ever goes to Purgatory. He does go to Hell. But ...
Cherokee: Whoās the one who dies all the time? Is that Dean?
Lauren: Dean. Yes.Ā
Cherokee: Yeah.
Lauren: Dean dies ... I think the count is like 157 times or something like that. I forget exactly what it is.
Cherokee: Yeah. Normal.Ā
Lauren: About 100 of those happen in one episode, to be fair.
Cherokee: Which, I have seen that episode.Ā
Lauren: Okay, mystery spot.Ā
Cherokee: Iāve seen the episode, the meta episode where theyāre on the set of Supernatural.Ā
Lauren: Oh yeah.
Cherokee: You know what I mean?
Lauren: Mm hmm (Affirmative).
Cherokee: And I did enjoy that one. Iāve enjoyed every episode Iāve seen. It is very enjoyable to watch.Ā
Lauren: And over 300+ episodes. They really hit every possible genre, fun trope, weird upside down world, I mean, they do everything. They go to a Supernatural convention. They see a fan fiction musical of their own lives. They fight god. Itās a whole thing. This show has everything. It really has everything.Ā
Cherokee: It must have been ... like, what a fun project to work on for 15 seasons. To be able to think of every potential story and do the meta fandom driven episodes. I mean-
Lauren: Yes.
Cherokee: ... that must have been so much fun to be like, āHow weird can we get? What can we do here?ā Especially because you have this dedicated audience who loves it and is like, āYeah, get weird. Try something. When is the musical episode?ā You know?
Lauren: Yeah, exactly.
Cherokee: And so, yeah, thatās what I really obviously having an embarrassing lack of knowledge about Supernatural despite having been chronically on Tumblr for ten years. I really love the Supernatural fandom and have jumped at every opportunity Iāve gotten to do something with Misha or just any Supernatural related anything, because itās always just so much fun and everyone is just having the time of their lives, honestly.
Lauren: Yes.Ā
Cherokee: I mean, even at the conventions with the karaoke and everyone dresses up. Everyone is so much fun. Itās, yeah. Itās wonderful. Itās a really wonderful community. And I love that it kind of continues, itās continued on. It will continue on. Destiel continues to be one of the top ships on Tumblr. Supernatural is consistently one of the biggest TV shows talked about. I really love that itās taken on a life of its own. Maybe Season 15 closed but the show isnāt over. And the stories definitely arenāt.Ā
Lauren: Exactly. And there is a prequel show coming, we should mention. The Winchester is on the CW/EW. Jensen Ackles, who plays Dean, is producing it and narrating it. But youāre so right. It is its own thing in such a beautiful way. Destiel is not only one of the top ships on Tumblr consistently, but also the most ficād ship on AO3. As far as I know, I think sometime early this year or late last year it crossed over 100,000 fan fics on AO3 for just the Destiel tag.Ā
Cherokee: Incredible.Ā
Lauren: Which is amazing.
Cherokee: I am a super fan of the Supernatural fandom. I think that is the perfect way-
Lauren: Yes.
Cherokee: ... to put where I fall in this equation. I really love ... it is just wonderful that so many people are experiencing these characters and there is so much source material, so you can really-
Lauren: Yes.
Cherokee: You really can kind of guess and know how someone will react, how someone would handle a situation, which means there are infinite stories that can be told from infinite POVās. No wonder thereās a 100k fics on AO3. Thatās incredible. Has anyone read them all? This is a challenge. Someone?
Lauren: Yes, please report back to us.
Cherokee: Yeah. (laughs) We will do [crosstalk 00:35:20]
Lauren: [email protected] ā email us! Well, yeah, and also there is a running joke on Tumblr that thereās a Supernatural gif for any situation, any kind of reaction, and itās true because everything has happened on that show. And not only do I sort of think of, when I think of early days of being on Tumblr and getting to the fandom side of things, I think about Supernatural gifs, but I also think of November 5th as in some ways the beginning of our current Tumblr renaissance.
I want to hear what you were doing on November 5th. Because I remember where I was. And to me it still sticks out in my head as one of the most fun nights Iāve had on Tumblr ... maybe only with the weekend of Dash Con. But this was November 5th, 2020. So, weāre, what, six, seven months into the pandemic. I am in my one bedroom apartment in LA that I have been inside of for eight months straight without leaving. And the presidential election ... very, very high stress presidential election has taken place two days before, but we donāt have results yet because of the pandemic slowing all of the results down.Ā
So, Iām stressed out of my mind. And me and my partner sit down to watch Supernatural. And watched the episode. Loved the episode. Itās a great time had by all. And then I got on Tumblr. And between the US politics and Destiel going canon, or somewhat canon, and everybody having the most cabin fever ever ā just the memes were off the charts. The sort of 15 year mass catharsis that was being experienced all at once on Tumblr was unmatched. I mean, it was just the absolute fourth wall breaking, meltdown, excitement that was happening on that platform. I canāt quantify it. It was beautiful.
Cherokee: What a perfect way to put it. I think, yeah, as someone who is obviously not in the Supernatural fandom, but is a fan of the Supernatural fandom, I was obviously on Tumblr while this was happening. I knew the finale was that night. And our fandom blog went ...
Lauren: It was the third to last episode, not the finale.
Cherokee: Oh, it was the third to last episode.Ā
Lauren: Yep.
Cherokee: See, Iām over here on November 20th. Oh my gosh. I apologize for not realizing that it was the third to last episode where this happened. I genuinely, to this day, thought that was the finale.Ā
Lauren: Oh my gosh. Thatās amazing.
Cherokee: Continuing with my lack of knowledge. But anyway, I have never seen my dash be so one topicād and overtake everything else happening. It was just chaos. As someone who is not in the fandom, I have FOMO. I feel like I would have more fully experienced that if I had been ... ācause I didnāt even watch the episode. I just got the gifs and the kind of canon but not canon ... from my feed. And I feel like I kind of get what happened in that episode. Do they become canon in Purgatory? Is that ... they shared a little Purgatory kiss? Is that, or?
Lauren: Well ... (laughs) ... I mean, in fan fics, Iām sure.
Cherokee: (laughs)
Lauren: So, they go to Purgatory earlier in that season and they get separated in purgatory and Dean ends up praying to Cas to try and find him. And itās like this very emotional ... like, he kneels down and is praying. And then later in the season Cas has made an agreement with the Empty, which is angel hell, that when he experiences a moment of true happiness he will be taken into the Empty, where he will live out the rest of his immortal life in an empty blank space, basically.
So, Cas tells Dean that he loves him and experiences a moment of true happiness and gets taken by the Empty.Ā
Cherokee: It makes sense. Yep, that makes complete sense. No, with the limited knowledge I have, that sounds right. Yeah.
Lauren: Yeah. Can I share with you my absolute favorite post? I still think these words to myself on the regular. This was an exchange that happened on Tumblr either on November 5th or in the days afterwards. But somebody ... itās just a great series of responses. Somebody blogged:
āI canāt believe Castiel went to super hell to turn Georgia blue.ā
And then because Georgia went for Joe Biden that same night. And then somebody responded with, āPlease god, let me find these things out normally. I am begging you.āĀ
And then a third person responded with maybe my favorite thing that anybodyās said on Tumblr which is, āIf you go to the circus for news, donāt complain if a clown tells it to you.āĀ
Cherokee: That is ... I want that on a shirt. I want it like as a cross stitch. That is so perfect. And I really like ... yeah, regretting. I am regretting my lack of action in the Supernatural community on this day. I would have really loved to be a part of the revolution and not just a viewer on the sidelines.Ā
Lauren: And you were there. You were witnessing the history as it was happening. Not everybody can say that. Some people werenāt even on Tumblr at all.Ā
Cherokee: I would say probably maybe most people.
Lauren: Yeah.Ā
Cherokee: Even though I did think it was the finale.Ā
Lauren: You did think it was the finale. Thatās so funny. It can be your finale if you want it to be.
Cherokee: Exactly.
Lauren: This is the great thing about being a fan. It is what you make it. Throw canon out the window and do your thing.
Cherokee: Throw canon, make it fan-on.
Lauren: Speaking of fan-on versus canon. I have a quiz for you.Ā
[synth music]
Cherokee: Oh, Iām ready. Is it Supernatural related?
Lauren: Oh, itās all Supernatural related. So, every episode, probably, Cherokee and I are going to do a game. And one of our main games is going to be fan fic versus fan fact. In which we quiz each other on essentially two truths and a lie situation. So, Iām going to ask Cherokee a question and thereās going to be three options. Two of them will be true and one of them will be a lie, and she has to guess which, as somebody who is not deeply entrenched in Supernatural. Are you ready?
Cherokee: Never been more ready.Ā
Lauren: Okay. So, the first question is:
Which of the following is not the title of a Supernatural episode?
A Very Supernatural Halloween
Everybody Loves A Clown
Are You There God? Itās Me, Dean Winchester.
Two of those are real, one of them is not an actual episode title. Let me know if you need them again.
Cherokee: Hmm. āC.ā
Lauren: C. Are You There God? Itās Me, Dean Winchester?
Cherokee: Yeah.Ā
[buzzer]
Lauren: Wrong. That is a real episode title.Ā
Cherokee: Oh. I was like, āSheās gonna think I think it is an episode title, so it wonāt be,ā ācause my other thought was āB,ā but is āBā also wrong? āBā is also wrong. Cool.
Lauren: This one was a little bit shady of me. Because ... So, the answer, too, which is not a title of a Supernatural episode is, āA Very Supernatural Halloween.ā That is not a title of an episode. There is an episode titled, āA Very Supernatural Christmas.ā So, it was a little bit tricky.
Cherokee: I got both my options wrong, which is on brand and wouldnāt have wanted it any other way. (laughs)Ā
Lauren: Perfect. Listen, weāve got two more of these. So, you still have time to get two out of three. I believe in you.
Cherokee: Iām going to ace it.Ā
Lauren: (laughs) All right. The next one is:
Which of the following is not a character in Supernatural?Ā
The Easter Bunny
Misha Collins
Hitler
Which is not a character that appears in Supernatural? A character.
Cherokee: Okay, I know Misha Collins appears as himself at some point in Supernatural.Ā
Lauren: Because you did see that episode.Ā
Cherokee: Because I did see that episode. So, thatās eliminated. So, weāre between the Easter Bunny and Hitler.Ā
Lauren: Yep.
Cherokee: (laughs) Iām gonna go with Hitler did not appear in an episode.Ā
Lauren: So, Iām gonna give you half a point for this, because this is also a little bit shady. So, the Easter Bunny is not a character in Supernatural. There is a killer bunny at one point. But as far as I could find. And I have seen every episode of Supernatural, but you forget things. But I could not find that there was the Easter Bunny in an episode. But Hitler technically is a character in Supernatural. Because Dean kills Hitler and then he talks about how he killed Hitler a bunch in later episodes. Because itās a cool thing to have killed Hitler.Ā
It is the soul of Hitler in somebody elseās body. So, technically nobody is dressed as Hitler in Supernatural. Thankfully. But, yes, that is a whole episode in which there is Nazi necromancers and Dean kills Hitler. So, thatās a half a point.
Cherokee: Good for Dean.
Lauren: Because the way you phrased your answer, he technically doesnāt appear, but he is a character.Ā
Cherokee: So, I found my way around it. Also-
Lauren: You did.
Cherokee: ... is there a Tumblr that has the log line for every single Supernatural episode? Because Iām gonna need to go to that. Iām sure IMDB-
Lauren: Ooh.
Cherokee: ... has it, but I want to stay organic.
Lauren: No, we want the fan perspective.
Cherokee: I want the fan written log line of each episode.
Lauren: Yes.
Cherokee: Another ... please, someone if you do it, let us know.Ā
Lauren: Please. All right. Final question:
Which is not a way that Dean Winchester has died?
Shot by a fellow hunter.
Crashing his beloved car, āBaby.ā
Slipping in the shower.
Cherokee: āBā Crashing the car?
[chimes]
Lauren: You are correct.
Cherokee: Yes! Oh my gosh! Wow!Ā
Lauren: Although, now Iām actually second guessing myself.
Cherokee: (laughs)Ā
Lauren: As far as I know he was never driving Baby and crashed her and died. But now Iām remembering that I think he and his dad, John Winchester, were in the car, got into a car accident at the end of season one and heās dead at the end of season two, and thatās the first time we see Reapers. Supernatural fans? Help me out here. Itās been a while since Iāve seen the early seasons. So, the internet may have steered me wrong on this. But that ... as far as I know, you got that answer right. So, 1.5 out of 3 points. Hell yes.Ā
Cherokee: 50%. A solid 50%.Ā
Lauren: All right. That ties up our Supernatural segment. How do you feel? Do you feel like you know Supernatural better now?
Cherokee: I am not gonna lie, I feel like I need to watch a lot more of Supernatural, because I canāt be this not in the know these days. Iāve got to get deeper. And so I feel motivated to go beyond being a fan of the fandom and become a member of the fandom.Ā
Lauren: I love that. And, hey, if you do, this is the place to talk about it. We can do a little sum up of your Supernatural journey. That could be very fun.
Cherokee: That would be fun. Iām in. Iāll start with season one, episode one. And just-
Lauren: Hell yes.
Cherokee: ... work my way. Hell yes. Purgatory yes. Super hell yes. Heaven yes. Empty yes. All of the yeses.Ā
Lauren: (laughs) I mean, in terms of fandom forecast, as we round out. I think you do have some Supernatural on your horizon, but what else are you looking at in the coming two weeks in between our episodes that you are excited for?
Cherokee: Hmm. Well, first off, I know I mentioned Thor: Love and Thunder, earlier in the episode, but I am so excited to see just ... itās trending number three right now as we speak on July 8th. But it just came out today. So, I think for the next couple of weeks I feel like that is really gonna be just a big moment, kind of like the main thing being talked about and then also this is coming out on July 22nd, but the new Jordan Peel film.
Lauren: Jordan Peel movie. Thatās right.
Cherokee: Iām so excited to see that. Itās one of those things where I have no idea what itās about. And I cannot wait to find out.
Lauren: As we round out our episode this week, letās end with Feels Corner.
[music]
What is giving you the feels right now? What is the thing that you are obsessing over that you are crying over the gifs, that you are reading the fic of, tell me your hyper fixation of the moment?
Cherokee: So, I have a very specific hyper fixation right now that I donāt know if itās really broken onto Tumblr yet. Iāve seen some whisperings of it. But I just watched ... I have two more episodes left of The Bear on Hulu.
Lauren: Yeah.
Cherokee: Which is that show about the sandwich restaurant in Chicago. I will preface this by saying Iāve followed a lot of people who watch The Bear and the biggest piece of feedback is, āExcellent show, so inaccurate of sandwich shops. This would never be in this part of Chicago, and this part of Chicago is nothing like youāre seeing it is.ā Kind of thing. Which is so funny because that is all the feedback Iām seeing. But even the people who are saying this are still loving the show. And I am unhealthily obsessed, maybe, with Carmine who is played by Jeremy Allen White. You may know him from Shameless.
Lauren: Oh yeah.
Cherokee: The show is excellent and very well done. Ayo Edebiri is in it. Super, itās really well done. I am watching it for one reason and one reason alone and that is thirst. (laughs)
Lauren: (laughs) And we respect that here on Dashboard Diaries. I totally get that. Heās got a real certain something about him. He really doe.Ā
Lauren: (laughs) Thatās totally it. Oh my gosh.Ā
Cherokee: Itās visceral. Not to get too horny on āmine here. (laughs)
Lauren: Thatās amazing and you have two episodes left.
Cherokee: I have two episodes. So, I hold out for finales. I donāt watch them right away for some reason. I get close to the end of something and I put off ... I watched Stranger Things, Part Four, Part Two, days after it came out. I donāt know what it is, I just need that ... it lasts longer that way. But I have two episodes left and I will probably watch them this evening, this weekend. Iām excited to see what happens. Itās mostly just like, itās really well shot and very stressful of a show. Itās kitchen intensity.
Lauren: Yeah.
Cherokee: But just him making beef sandwiches. Into it. Iāve never had a beef sandwich in my life, but I would ... I would do it for Carmine. Oh, so what are you obsessing over at the moment?
Lauren: Speaking of stressful shows, last night I watched this weekās episode of For All Mankind, the Apple TV show. And itās so funny, because itās a show that I donāt necessarily actually engage in the fandom of, or I havenāt yet. And itās a show thatās sort of between seasons, I didnāt think all that much about. And then when itās on and Iām watching it, itās one of my favorite viewing experiences. Itās this alternate history of 1960s through 1990s America, NASA specifically in the space race, if we have way more advanced technology basically.Ā
It is so incredibly stressful and I love it. Like, every episode I am clutching my face. I am moving around on the couch, total frenetic energy because I am so nervous about whatās happening on screen. And itās the most fun Iāve had watching a TV show and being stressed by a TV show simultaneously ... well, since Barry. So, not that long. But itās the same kind of thing where itās like, āOh, I canāt look. I have to look. I canāt look. I have to look. Iām loving this so much. I wanna die.ā
Cherokee: What a great endorsement. I have to watch this show now. I love a show about space. I have seen it and just havenāt gotten started for no specific reason. But everyone I talk to who watches it just vehemently recommends it.Ā
Lauren: It is so good. And if you all listening have feels that you wanna share in our Feels Corner, go ahead and send a voice memo talking about, 30 seconds or less, the thing that you are obsessing over right now to [email protected]. We wanna hear from you and we might put it on the show.Ā
Cherokee: I canāt wait to hear the feels. I hope some of them are for our boy Carmine from The Bear.Ā
Lauren: (laughs)
Cherokee: Come on. Come on, Bear cubs ... I donāt know, whatās the fandom called?
Lauren: Oh, thatās cute. Bear cubs is cute.
Cherokee: Yeah, I like it.Ā
Lauren: I feel like you just named the fandom.Ā
Cherokee: All right, Bear cubs. Letās rock and roll. (laughs) Bear subs.Ā
Lauren: Oh, that has layers of meaning.
Cherokee: Oh, thereās too many layers there. (laughs)
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Took a moment to click, but yeah.Ā
Lauren: And with that, as we say this week and every week, may your anons always be loving.Ā
Cherokee: Your dash always refreshed.
Lauren: Your gifs always be loading.
Cherokee: And your ships always canon.Ā
Lauren: May the fics youāre reading always be finished.
Cherokee: And the answers you seek always in the tags.
Lauren: And weāll see you next time, or in super hell, this has been Dashboard Diaries.
The country generally and blue or center-left America particularly is in the midst of a crisis of confidence and legitimacy over the tether connecting political participation to concrete results. Minoritarianism not only lets the minority rule the country; it also saps the political will of the majority. Thatās why a clear promise and specificity about the kind of win that is needed is critical.
If you sweat the details about national politics you know that no Congress has ever passed big legislation in a tied and highly polarized 50-50 Senate. On paper Democrats have unified control of the White House and Congress. But the margins are so small that that control is more nominal than real. In practice, Senate Democrats have a 48 seat caucus for everything but the Senate calendar and the scheduling of votes. But if you watch politics from a distance and donāt know the details it looks very much like Democrats are screaming that all these things need to be done when theyāre already in charge of everything. That has seemed like the story of the last eighteen months. Great clarity is required to repair that damage.
Hereās Why Itās Critical to Pass a Roe Law No Matter What the Court Does (via wilwheaton)
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Another piece of evidence in my typing journey: I recently took a āwhich characters are you most similar toā quiz, and most of the characters ranked as similar to me are ESFJs and occasional ISFJs (Eliza from āHamilton,ā Charlotte from āSex and the City,ā Georgiana from āPride and Prejudice,ā and Esme from āTwilightā to name a few.)
Hereās the link to the quiz, if you havenāt seen it already/would find it interesting:Ā https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/characters/
Yeah, thatās a fun test. :) Last time I took it, my top match was Willow from Buffy ā a fellow NFP 6w7.