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TRUMP: Well, that's fine. And what did they say? I mean, you know, depending on which banker you're talking to— WALTERS: Several. TRUMP: —what did they say? The deal I worked out is in the process. The deal I worked out is something that I think is good for everybody. The economy is down the tubes. Nobody knows how bad the economy is. I listen to the people on Wall Street, talking about the possibility of a recession. We're not in a recession. We're in a depression. Now, when you're in a depression, you have to sort of go with the punches. You have to go see your banks, you have to deal with people, you have to work things out. And there are a lot of people — unfortunately, I'm the only one people write about. I mean, they don't write about other people.

Trump's Debts and Assets (ST 04:53 on the 20/20 video) WALTERS: You have a little more debt than most people. You have something like $3 billion in debt. TRUMP: I also have a little more assets than most people. WALTERS: Okay. TRUMP: You know, it's sort of an interesting phenomenon. I have many friends — they are negotiating with their banks the same as I am. And I always say to them, "How come you never get any publicity? You don't end up on the front page of the various garbage tabloids." WALTERS: They weren't on the front pages to begin with. TRUMP: Well... WALTERS: They don't have 50 magazine covers behind them. TRUMP: I'll tell you, they also don't end up in "The Wall Street Journal," and I do. WALTERS: Let's try to be accurate. TRUMP: Go ahead. WALTERS: Some of your friends have told us that you deliberately missed a payment on the Trump Castle debt, so that you could negotiate this deal with the bank. Is that true? TRUMP: Did I deliberately miss it? In other words, did I just say "I'm not paying it?" WALTERS: Yeah, because, "then I can deal with my banks, and I can get short-term agreements over the long term." TRUMP: Well, I don't want to comment as to whether or not I deliberately missed a payment. WALTERS: Why not? That's important. TRUMP: I think that the deal that's been worked is a fair deal. The Castle is doing very well, it's starting to deal really well. Atlantic City is in the midst of a recessionary area. People are not going down like they used to, because they don't have the money. WALTERS: And the Taj Mahal, which was going to save everything, is just about breaking even, and your other two casinos are down 20 percent from last year. You have debts to pay back. TRUMP: Right. WALTERS: You have huge loans to pay back. You say the country is in a depression. What makes you think that you can pay back those loans? And further, what your bankers have told us is that the only way you even have a chance is by selling that property out there totally, The Plaza. TRUMP: Well, I don't know what the bankers have said. The Plaza's a very valuable property. Everybody told me, "Oh, you paid too much. You paid too much." Now they're all saying, "What a great deal he made on the Plaza." WALTERS: No, they're not. TRUMP: Well, I think you'll find that it's a great deal, when the deal is all said and done. I mean, the Plaza is doing very well. The Taj Mahal broke every record. That doesn't mean it's doing well, but the Taj Mahal, last month, had the highest win in the history of casino gaming. WALTERS: I know, but it still was not en[ough]—it just barely broke even in terms of what it cost you. [....]

How Trump Thinks Others Perceive Him (ST 09:12 on the 20/20 video) WALTERS: In your book you say, "Success is so often a matter a perception." What do you think the perception of you is today? TRUMP: I really don't know what the perception is. I think people see me as a fighter. I think people have always seen me as a fighter. They know that I don't take a lot of crap from people and from others. And my life would be a lot easier if I did, to be perfectly honest.

Trump's Copy of Hitler’s Speeches (ST 09:35 on the 20/20 video) WALTERS: In the current issue of “Vanity Fair,” the author, Marie Brenner says that you read from Hitler's collective speeches, “My New Order.” And that these are speeches that you seem to admire. What's your reaction? Do you have this book? Do you have these speeches?TRUMP: It is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. A friend of mine sent me a book. A man who I think is Jewish, although I don't know -- sent me a book. It happened to be that book. All of a sudden Marie Brenner somehow found out that he had sent me a book. It is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen, and I'm probably going to sue "Vanity Fair" over it. WALTERS: The author, Marie Brenner, quotes you as saying to her, "When a man leaves a woman, especially when it was perceived that he has left for a piece of ass -- a good one -- there are 50 percent of the population who will love the woman who was left." TRUMP: I do remember saying that. I don't remember having used those words. That's possible. But I believe that if a man leaves a woman for almost any reason, that that particular person, the man, is going to be at a major disadvantage in terms of the public eye, there's no question about it. WALTERS: Do you think that your marital problems with Ivana, in some way, cause some of this to happen? TRUMP: Probably. [....]

Infidelity, Marital Problems & Parenting (ST 12:11 on the 20/20 video) WALTERS: You've said in your book that Marla Maples did not cause the breakup of your marriage, that you and Ivana would have split anyway. But didn't it hasten it? TRUMP: No. WALTERS: Had nothing to do with it? TRUMP: That's an absolute correct statement. Marla Maples is a friend of mine. I have a lot of other friends. It — nobody caused…— WALTERS: You treat the other friends the same way? TRUMP: I mean they had me — they had me going out with every woman in the United States. WALTERS: We're not talking about that. We're talking about this one. TRUMP: Marla Maples is a friend. I have a lot of friends. Did it hasten the breakup? Absolutely -- in my opinion, absolutely not. The breakup was going to occur. And I'm not going to disparage Ivana. You'll never hear me disparage Ivana, for one reason. She's the mother of my children, I'm not disparaging. But you grow apart. WALTERS: While we're talking about Ivana as a mother, there have been reports recently, in the paper, some of them attributed to Marla, that Ivana is not a good mother. That she has left her children this summer. But the truth is that she is with her children right now, on a boat… — TRUMP: I think Ivana's a very good mother. WALTERS: Okay.TRUMP: Ivana's a good mother.WALTERS: And the -- also, the truth is, that you yourself said that you saw your children maybe once a week. You're having a lot of difficulties with your 12-year-old son, Donnie. You haven't talked to him since May. I mean, this is a very painful situation.TRUMP: I am not going to disparage Ivana as a woman or as a mother.WALTERS: You do say she is a good mother.TRUMP: I say she's a good mother. I say that Ivana is fine. As far as myself, I think I'm a very good father. I've been a very good provider, and I guess you have to leave it like that, Barbara. I mean, what can I say?WALTERS: Do you believe in fidelity in marriage?TRUMP: Yes, absolutely I do. Absolutely. I think that there's nothing better than a good marriage. There is nothing worse than a bad marriage. I'm absolutely a believer in marriage, I'm an absolute believer in fidelity. But if a marriage isn't working, that's a different ball game.WALTERS: I want to clear something up. In your book, the new book, you say, "The fun is in the getting, not the having." Does that include women? No kidding.TRUMP: Interesting question. I think the hunt is always fun, whether it's deals, whether it's women, whether it's anything. I think, however, that with respect to women, there would be nothing that would make me happier than having a great marriage. An absolutely great marriage, and that would certainly supersede the hunt.WALTERS: My colleague, Diane Sawyer, did an interview with Marla, in which Marla said that she loves you. Do you love her?TRUMP: I'm not going to comment on it. I'm not going to talk about it.

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