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This could go two ways: they're based on other major representative works or they're based on ones which are weird for the writer and/or less famous. If the second:
Twain and Nikolai basically switch Abilities except instead of Huck Finn and Tom Sawyer Nikolai's avatars are specters of the poems IRL Gogol abandoned. Twain's version of The Overcoat is called The Purloining of Prince Oleomargarine and he has to say that every time he uses it
Poe and Louisa are the shapeshifters now. Louisa takes different human forms by the power of My Mysterious Mademoiselle and Poe can turn into a lion with Lionizing
Fyodor has The Crocodile, but it doesn't change that much, since it's sort of like Crime and Punishment with an avatar component. After someone kills him, they get swallowed whole by his crocodile (escaping the crocodile is almost impossible) and turn into him in there
Herman Melville's Ability is now Pierre. Not sure what it does but it has to be weird
Ango's Ability is D.D.T. and the Perpetually Laid-Out Futon. It creates a wasting illness
Akutagawa's Ability is The Ball, supernatural agility and strength if he turns his fighting into a dance. If he saw the subtle shoujo sparkles it gets animated with, he'd be furious
Francis has Tarquin of Cheapside. It could be like Illuminations or Black Cat in the Rue Morgue. Side effect is that he sometimes talks in Shakespearean English
I can't say what Rimbaud's Ability is called because it's. Obscene
Lippmann can talk to dogs
Agatha's Ability is Giant's Bread, but since we don't know what And Then There Were None does yet, that might not change anything whatsoever
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Almost a year ago, in one of those late night moments where you're convinced you've thought of something brilliant, I formulated a theory that Lippmann's Ability is Cold War and was inspired by Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD), while admitting that I had not yet read Walter Lippmann's Cold War. I then read it and wrote up an analysis and verdict. I then decided to hold off on posting it until I'd read Public Opinion. I then forgot it
I still plan on making Public Opinion and overarching Lippmann analyses, but it's been too long, so for now, here this is
Tl,dr: Cold War has some overlaps with Lippmann's Ability and could well have inspired it, but it could just be that Walter Lippmann's writing and career arc are very BSD Lippmann-ish in general
In essence, Cold War (or The Cold War: A Study in U.S. Foreign Policy) is a takedown of the Truman Doctrine and a specific document promoting the containment policy, along with W.L.âs idea of what policies the US ought to implement instead when dealing with the USSR and the nations of Europe overall. If BSD Lippmann-relevant, itâs in a rather abstracted way, though not moreso than a number of other Abilities
The overlap, if there is one, could be in W.L.âs arguments about how US military strength lies in targeted defense and they should make the Soviet Union show its hand by withdrawing its armies if itâs really willing to commit to peaceâthat is to say, you should counter killing intent, direct your power where itâll have an impact, and try to keep the enemy from being able to fight you in the first place, all of which sounds like Lippmann's Ability
Then, there's W.L.'s idea of diplomacy:
"That is what a diplomat means by the settlement of a conflict among rival powers. He does not mean that they will cease to be rivals... He means that, whatever they think, whatever they want, whatever their ideological purposes, the balance of power is such that they cannot afford to commit aggression."
The killing intent reaction, combined with Lippmann's movie star reputation, could create a stalemate much like the balanced power-mutual costs situation W.L. describes
MAD also fits that description, though it didn't coagulate until after the publication of Cold War and was definitely not what W.L. was hoping for. (The policies he saw as terrible were implemented and failed in a number of the ways he said they would). The detail which led me to connect Lippmann and MAD was him being called a bomb which would go off when he died
Interesting as it would be if MAD were part of what inspired Lippmann, and much as it is a famous feature of the Cold War, there are enough bombs in BSD as it is (literal and figurativeâOda compares a bundle of supernotes to a small nuclear warhead) that I wouldn't say a Lippmann-bomb connection has to be MAD related. It easily could have been, but it easily could have not been
I still haven't gotten around to reading most of Public Opinion or any of W.L.'s other works, so I could be and very likely am missing something more relevant. The one other thing I can think of, based on my limited knowledge, is that Lippmann's Ability could be inspired by the course of Walter Lippmann's career. While he sometimes spoke out boldly and had a major scandal (the Foreign Affairs affair), he was better known for toeing the line even at times when he should have spoken out (ex: during and after the Sacco and Vanzetti trial, during and after the rise of Nazism). However, at the end of his career, he got to an issue he couldn't ignore: the Vietnam War, which he increasingly strongly objected to and may have thought wouldn't have happened if everyone had just taken his Cold War advice in the first place. A major public figure and household name during his era, he seems to generally be remembered as one who spent decades mostly staying uncontroversial (sometimes, perhaps, while thinking of himself as doing the opposite) and then went out like a firecracker
In order to talk about Alcott, I think it is important to talk about her foiling with other two characters aka Steinbeck and Fitzgerald.
It is interesting to highlight that after the defeat of the Guild only Louisa and Steinbeck show concern for Fitzgerald even if in two different ways:
Louisa states that she wants to find him, while Steinbeck surprises his former comrades by saying he wants to take care of the empire founded by Fitzgerald.
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After seeing @tiredandanxiouschaos' post on the Alyosha-inspired song by the Polish band Metro, I had to go through the rabbit hole of looking for all the Brothers Karamazov inspired songs that I could find.
Here is what I got (including the song by Metro):
1. Metro - Hej, Aloszka
"In the text I'm reffering to one of the Karamazov brothers, Alosza, from Fyodor Dostoyevsky's book. It's a song about naivety, hope, the role of widely understood relation with God, transcendency, religion. In the midst of all the degeneracy shown by Dostoyevsky, Alosza is still certain that goodness (/kindness) will triumph. I'm also using the titular Aloszka to confront my own beliefs regarding the world, which are being subjected to constant revision" - says the text's author and vocalist, Aleksander Zajdel. [taken from one of the youtube comments under the song]. Check @tiredandanxiouschaos' post for the translation!]
2. The Used - The Brothers Karamazov
The song could be interpreted as sung by Mitya or by Ivan. It's about how they hate their father but also hate the fact that they can recognize some of their father's traits in themselves and how they are afraid to end up becoming someone like him.
3. The Slackers - Peculiar
Mitya's story sung from the POV of Mitya.
4. Susanne Sundfør - Alyosha
To be fair, it's possible that this song was not explicitly written about Alyosha from TBK, but about the singer/songwriter's husband (who has a different name). Still, I decided to include the song because I feel like the singer chose the name Alyosha as a placeholder for her husband's name because the lyrics also fit the character so so well. It could be loosely interpreted as sung by Gruschenka when Alyosha comes to visit her for the first time and she is shocked by his kindness and the fact that he treats her like a human being worthy of respect and compassion.
Let me know if you know of any other TBK songs! :)
strawpage request ^_^ fun facttt I've read the 55 minutes light novel and i find it interesting... h.g wells was a bit difficult to draw but i love her/p
Every time you post about the flags I'm impressed how much you know about literature/historical figures, I've genuinely never heard of some of these people and it's giving me more wikipedia articles to read so a very big thank you for that <33
Thank you, anon! Thatâs nice of you to say!
Iâm probably not as knowledgeable as I come across as being, at least in general. Iâd never heard of Moroi SaburĹ or Nakahara ChĹŤya at all pre-BSD, had been meaning to read Baudelaire for years but hadnât done it, had read about Walter Lippmann in passing but didnât remember his name, and knew about Jurassic Park via cultural osmosis. I had read O'Neill's Mourning Becomes Electra play trilogy years before but couldnât have told you much more about him than that he wrote a bunch of grim plays and has a Broadway theater named after him
All that is to say, Iâm glad my posts are encouraging you to do research, and thatâs what the Flags did for me, too! Wikipedia, as you most likely know but I feel obligated to put as a disclaimer anyway, is not reliable, though it can be a helpful jumping off point (and articles about well-known writers are probably less likely to be intensely skewed by bias than articles about, say, more obscure authors who might have fewer people contributing info about them, or fraught topics people have editing fights over)
I should rant properly about them again, itâs been too long. I have a few analyses lying around mostly done which Iâm waiting for any relevant last bonus crumbs we might get from...certain upcoming manga chapters to post, a few which have been languishing in my drafts for no reason, and a massive Albatross-Baudelaire theory evidence breakdown I decided to take a break from because it had become a perfectionistic thing I was spending ages on without really adding anything to but it also isn't complete (I'll probably revisit and post it in a couple months, but I, uh, I operate on Piano Man time. Maybe something will possess me and I'll finish it next week. Maybe next year. I don't know)
For now, here is a rather random, tangential connection between two of them which I just found out about
The background: Eugene OâNeill at first was friends with Charlie Chaplin but came to hate him after Chaplin married OâNeillâs daughter, Oona, a month after she turned 18 (Chaplin was 54, only half a year younger than OâNeill). OâNeill also disowned Oona after that, which in my opinion was a terrible parenting choice because yes, she was an adult, but she wasnât when her romantic relationship with Chaplin started, Chaplin had a history of going after young women and girls, and Chaplin had a lot more power in society than she did. People still debate whether the marriage was somehow happy despite everything or whether Chaplin reduced Oona to a shell of who she might have been and abused her and the children. Anyway, Oona was married to Charlie Chaplin until he died and they had eight children together
The connection: Iris in Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom, which is not strictly based on a Michael Crichton novel but is part of a franchise he started and takes ideas from his work, is played by Geraldine Chaplin, a daughter of Charlie and Oona Chaplin and granddaughter of Eugene OâNeill. That is to say, one of O'Neill's biological descendants is part of one of Crichton's creative descendants
Geraldine Chaplin is also in The Mirror Crackâd and Agatha Christieâs Marple, both based on works by Christie; The Hollow Crown, an adaptation of multiple Shakespeare plays (BSD Shakespeare is only mentioned but he technically counts); and Casino Royale, inspired by the Ian Fleming novel (giving her another connection to an author popularly theorized to be in BSD but not confirmed. Her daughter, named Oona Chaplin after her grandmother, is in the 2008 sequel to Casino Royale). If weâre going really tangential, sheâs also in four movies adaptions of novels by Alexandre Dumas (three with Musketeers + The Corsican Brothers 1985) and an adaptation of Balzacâs Cousin Bette, and Dumas and Balzac knew Baudelaire and Victor Hugo. If weâre going really, really tangential, sheâs in Miguel y William, which has Shakespeare as a character, and in The Children (1990), The Age of Innocence (1993), and The House of Mirth (1981), based on novels by Edith Wharton, who supervised Helen Byrne Lippmann when she was a nurseâs aide in Paris (long before she married Walter Lippmann). All that goes to show... well, not much, but I thought it was neat
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If Albatross were a worm⌠would he still be called Albatross or would he just be Worm??? Wormbatross??? đ
Hello Taliehoffbeck! How have you been? :D
(P.S. Albaworm could definitely solo Dostoyevsky. Trust me.)
Depends on whether people know. Heâd still be Albatross to Chuuya, but if Chuuya tells anyone who wasn't there for the vermification that he has Albatross in worm form at his apartment, or even lies and says he named the worm after an allegedly dead friend, they might be concerned for Chuuyaâs wellbeing. Then again, Chuuya wouldnât tell anyone he keeps a worm in his apartment unless forced to somehow, especially not Albaworm. Albaworm is to be protected at almost all costs
Hello, Serendipitousity! How have you been? I have been⌠well, I got briefly locked in a cemetery yesterday (1st cemetery visit since MontparnasseâI wanted to pay my respects to the actress Pascale Ogier) and it was the most interesting thing thatâs happened to me this week. Last week, a near-stranger told me heâd translate Romanian poetry for me, so that might be happening (he says heâs not fluent in Romanian but is learning); my mom texted to say that ever since the night when I slept on that eerie mountain with the unidentifiable noise (which I did not tell her I was doing), sheâs been having recurring dreams where Iâm lying down surrounded by specters; and I at least briefly was able to get the song which had been stuck in my head a third of the time for months almost entirely out of my head (itâs trying to break in again and I am fending it off with another song which was stuck in my head months ago. We shall see whether This Charming Man can take the Trap Queen in a fight)
(I would very much like to see Albaworm solo Dostoyevsky. To my mind, there are things which would be terrible plotwise but entertaining enough to more than make up for it, and Deux ex Albaworm fits firmly in that category)
I can imagine how awkward it would be if Dazai found out about Albaworm⌠He might tease Chuuya mercilessly, be a little confused and unbelieving about the situation and not entirely believe in Albaworm, or be very distraught that Chuuya prefers Albaworm to him /hj
Stay safe Taliehoffbeck! đĽ˛đ I hope you werenât locked in there for too long, and that it was more of a mild-inconvenience-slightly-fun-adventure rather than an âOh no how am I going to get out of hereâ situation. I hope the Romanian poetry turns out well!
I hope the specters are friendly? Can they be good signs? Should I be worried??? /hj Please stay safe đ
I hope This Charming Man wins out (Iâve never listened to either of the mentioned songs before).
I myself have been doing well, nothing really riveting has happened as of late. I am going to see my friends today, though! So that is very exciting :D
I hope you have a great day and/or night as well, remember to drink lots of water and eat snacks and get plenty of rest, etc. đ
Perhaps Dazai would have something to say about worms and slugs
It was more of a mild-inconvenience-slightly-fun-adventure. I got to the door one minute late, so it was locked and had a sign saying the only way out after closing was another door a few minutesâ walk away. That door was also locked and had a sign saying to call the municipal police to get out. Luckily, while I was typing in their number, someone who presumably worked there (who was carrying three large bags, at least one of which was full of mostly empty bottles which looked like they'd held red soda or cranberry punch or something) saw me and kindly let me out
This is what my mother said about the dreams a few days later:
...I keep having these dreams that dissipate rapidly--you surrounded by people these sheltering--not beings but forces with a point of light at the top, you surrounded by dancing kind of moving white sheaths, one touching your head and neck and stomach and I'm saying [they donât] like to be touched and the light ignores me and says but not with words Enid does. Enid was sleeping but is now awake!!
Honestly I do not like the name EnidÂ
Which is what woke me up
I think you slept out either at [redacted] or the lake
My mother was referring to another lake; the correct answer was halfway between her two hunches. So⌠consider me thoroughly stumped what to make of that. I also noticed that she used a double space after the period, which she sometimes does and and sometimes doesn't. I used to think it was a typo when she did it but because of what you once said I know it's likely an old habit she's mostly abandoned
I think "This Charming Man" is winning, though seeing the name Enid, a song by that name threatens to enter the ring
I hope you and your friends had an excellent time!!!
Now Iâm trying to Bunal AU-cast Les Nuits de la pleine lune (which is a miserable story and would make a strange yet probably bad AU)⌠uh⌠After much deliberation, building off of Louise-Oda and despite the fact that I canât really remember most of the movie charactersâ personalities well enough to cast them, I give you a tentative list:
Louise: Oda
Octave: Ango (even though Octave-gawa is right there)
RĂŠmi: Hagiwara
Camille: ChĹŤya
Marianne: Muroo
Bastien:Â Shiga??? (I didn't get to the part of the movie with Bastien, but based purely on character design, Shiga looks like he could be a Bastien)
Bunal Ango would be a good Octave, I think. Most solid choice on the list
If Albatross were a worm⌠would he still be called Albatross or would he just be Worm??? Wormbatross??? đ
Hello Taliehoffbeck! How have you been? :D
(P.S. Albaworm could definitely solo Dostoyevsky. Trust me.)
Depends on whether people know. Heâd still be Albatross to Chuuya, but if Chuuya tells anyone who wasn't there for the vermification that he has Albatross in worm form at his apartment, or even lies and says he named the worm after an allegedly dead friend, they might be concerned for Chuuyaâs wellbeing. Then again, Chuuya wouldnât tell anyone he keeps a worm in his apartment unless forced to somehow, especially not Albaworm. Albaworm is to be protected at almost all costs
Hello, Serendipitousity! How have you been? I have been⌠well, I got briefly locked in a cemetery yesterday (1st cemetery visit since MontparnasseâI wanted to pay my respects to the actress Pascale Ogier) and it was the most interesting thing thatâs happened to me this week. Last week, a near-stranger told me heâd translate Romanian poetry for me, so that might be happening (he says heâs not fluent in Romanian but is learning); my mom texted to say that ever since the night when I slept on that eerie mountain with the unidentifiable noise (which I did not tell her I was doing), sheâs been having recurring dreams where Iâm lying down surrounded by specters; and I at least briefly was able to get the song which had been stuck in my head a third of the time for months almost entirely out of my head (itâs trying to break in again and I am fending it off with another song which was stuck in my head months ago. We shall see whether This Charming Man can take the Trap Queen in a fight)
(I would very much like to see Albaworm solo Dostoyevsky. To my mind, there are things which would be terrible plotwise but entertaining enough to more than make up for it, and Deux ex Albaworm fits firmly in that category)
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Albatross: Would you still be my friend if I was a worm?
Chuuya: What kinda question is that?
Albatross: Well, would you?
Chuuya: I met you two days ago, I'm not your friend
...almost a year later...
Chuuya: Yes, dammit
By a stroke of luck, though I hadn't previously known the tournament was happening, I saw this poll about an hour after it posted and got a picture of it. Here's what it looked like then:
The order stayed the same, Chuuya just pulled slightly further ahead of Shane and they both fell further behind Preminger, who got almost 16k votes. Which is quite fair. I voted for Chuuya, but if Preminger hadn't won, I might have regretted it
If you drew Karen from Stormbringer I would be eternally grateful (though she only has a written description so far, so it's a bit of a tall task), but please don't feel pressured, only if you feel like it. Anyway, your art is wonderful!!! Have a great day/night!
HI HELLO!! THANK YOU FOR REQUESTING
Iâm having a hard time trying to find something cohesive for what I imagine her to look like
I read storm bringer fairly recently and so this was a pretty fun challenge.. I wanna hear what you think though!! let me know your thoughts and I might revisit her with a better design :â˘)
AND HERES MY THOUGHT PROCESS ALSO!!
(art isnât the best, i know, i was just kinda doodling whatever)
@steinbeck-vines Hereâs my favorite side-character! :D
I only have one real theory about who this guy could be, based on this paragraph:
He doesnât appear to have a nullification skill like Dazaiâs, I guess itâs more of a protection skill? (Assuming that someoneâs not in the shadows actively using a protection skill on him.) So my theory is that this man is Ernest Hemingway, and his ability is A Farewell to Arms.
A little off topic, but it might be helpful to know when Dazaiâs Entrance Exam was published in relation to the main volumes of the manga. If it was published before the Guild appeared in the main manga, then it was probably intended as some sort of cliffhanger. Although this novel also reveals that Dazai used to be a PM executive and that happened in like volume 1 so I donât know how much of the ending of this novel was meant to be a âsurpriseâ đ Maybe itâs supposed to make the reader wonder why Guild Guy didnât show up with the rest of the Guild đ¤
Moving on, Guild Man doesnât have much about him that really identifies him⌠except for his black cap. A cap which looks a lot like, wellâŚ
Itâs basically the same picture, right..?
*Sigh*
Alright⌠even I can see when Iâm reaching đ But if itâs not Hemingway (which could very well be the case since he has a lot of other popular literature than A Farewell to Arms which could function as an ability) would it really be that much of a stretch to assume this is another Great Depression author? Or at least someone somewhat contemporaneous to Steinbeck?
Heck, maybe heâs our Joseph Campbell đ
Thereâs also this photo of the Guild with the random extra guys. Could one of them be Guild Man? (Assuming Poe isnât the one on the far right, but itâs hard for me to tell.)
According to the BSD wiki, which isn't always reliable but I think usually is for release dates, Entrance Exam was released in Japan on April Fool's Day, 2014, just under two months after Fitzgerald first appeared in the manga on February 4th and just over a month before Steinbeck did in ch. 18 on Star War's Day of all days. That is to say, he can't have been foreshadowing the Guild, but Guild Cap Guy did (deliberately or coincidentally) make his entrance pretty soon before More Famous Guild Cap Guy
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He could have known her for decades. He could have watched her grow up. He could have watched her grow old. He could have met her last week.Â
He could view her as a friend, he could be in love with her, he could feel like she hasnât lived enough, he could not care about her specifically all that much but have lost too many people, he could be doing it on an impulse he wouldnât have understood even if he had the time, and on her end, it doesnât matter, because sheâs incapable of valuing her own life unless someone orders her to. Theyâre both distanced from âhumanityâ, he by immunity from age and she by being a tool to whom power, deadliness, destruction is love, more robotic than the actual robot. The epitome of your life is worth something, even if youâve done terrible things and will again, even if you canât see it.Â
They would be BSD in a nutshell except they are frozen. Weâll probably never know if Karen lived after falling off that cliff (unless Hoshikawa adds a graphic death she doesnât have in the ln), any more than weâll know whether she was always like that or became that way, and the scant evidence points to her not being able to change deliberately, but maybe she could. Maybe the awe she appears to have while gazing at a void could be worth something to her one day, worth as much as sheâs worth to him. Maybe it already is. But we donât know. Weâll never know.Â
All we know is that he might have been able to save himself and live indefinitely, as heâs outlived so many people before, but dies smiling to save someone who canât care enough to save herself and wonât care that he died for her unless someone asks her to.
And that is why one of my favorite dynamics in BSD is two people who only interact once and have two and a quarter pages each max.
Scratch a bunch of things I've said, I've reread the same few passages too many times and the rest not in ages. We do know that Karen lives, at least for a while!
She's not referred to by name again, but "the ice-creating skill user" and "the skill user who could liquefy mass", Karen and the Colonel, are specified as the only ones whose Abilities don't bounce off Guivre in the part of the fight before Adam sets off the Shell (though neither's deals damage), and the Colonel survives (well, not for much longer, but Guivre doesn't get him), so it's very possible that Karen does too! I really hope she doesn't make it through all that only to end up like Emily Jane Smith during the Dragon's Head Conflict. Or to take on a new identity and move to Detroit. Any which way, the time manipulator is able to save her then, which means both that he accomplishes what he died to attempt and that Karen is capable of surviving a fall off a cliff and going back into battle not long after.
He could have known her for decades. He could have watched her grow up. He could have watched her grow old. He could have met her last week.Â
He could view her as a friend, he could be in love with her, he could feel like she hasnât lived enough, he could not care about her specifically all that much but have lost too many people, he could be doing it on an impulse he wouldnât have understood even if he had the time, and on her end, it doesnât matter, because sheâs incapable of valuing her own life unless someone orders her to. Theyâre both distanced from âhumanityâ, he by immunity from age and she by being a tool to whom power, deadliness, destruction is love, more robotic than the actual robot. The epitome of your life is worth something, even if youâve done terrible things and will again, even if you canât see it.Â
They would be BSD in a nutshell except they are frozen. Weâll likely never know whether Karen makes it through the battle (unless Hoshikawa adds a graphic death for her or a survivors view not in the ln), any more than weâll know whether she was always like that or became that way, and the scant evidence points to her not being able to change deliberately, but maybe she could. Maybe the awe she appears to have while gazing at a void could be worth something to her one day, worth as much as sheâs worth to him. Maybe it already is. But we donât know. Weâll never know.Â
All we know is that he might have been able to save himself and live indefinitely, as heâs outlived so many people before, but dies smiling to save someone who canât care enough to save herself and wonât care that he died for her unless someone asks her to. And he does it by pushing her off a cliff and having faith that she'll survive the fall. And he's right, she does, and she starts fighting again soon after.
And that is why one of my favorite dynamics in BSD is two people who only interact once and have maybe 3-4 pages each max.
