Dear TPA and Stronghold System, STFU Sincerely, Someone genuinely concerned for every single person you come into contact with
So, we all know how much I dislike the TPA and the Stronghold System. They have a new thread on twitter! Letâs take a look and debunk it.
Now, first, Iâve already made a post about this topic (trauma as a cause). You can read it here, so Iâm not going to go into TOO much detail. I just want to point out that using words and phrases that SOUND smart doesnât make it correct.
Weâll make it quick and easy, go through it post by post.
Iâve always said trauma is personal, that it doesnât need to be abuse, that itâs about the effects of the trauma, not the specific events. This isnât a controversial statement. Theyâve started this entire thread with a very misleading concept to get people on board. Itâs statements like this that also mislead people into thinking âsysmedsâ believe that it MUST be abuse. I donât actually know anyone who actually believes that. If I ever met anyone who did, Iâd smack them upside the head.Â
To start, no age cap is mentioned because the DSM is a guidelineâ a tool. Itâs not a receipe book, itâs not the single source of all research ever. It contains info that can help clinicians make a diagnosis. The age of the trauma is irrelevant in this respect, so no, it doesnât list a cap. ALL THE OTHER RESEARCH DOES, THOUGH. It also says, âin childhoodâ. There IS an age cap on âchildhoodâ. A teen is not a child. In fact, the DSM doesnât mention ANY other age except childhood in which the disorder develops. It talks about presentations in other ages, but not development. That alone should tell you something.Â
Finally, âassociated withâ in this case, means clinically connected to. Short of traumatizing a bunch of children, thatâs as close to 100% as weâre going to get.
This is where we start with things that sound smart. Correlation is⌠implied? A non-issue? Why is this coming up? I think the argument theyâre trying to make is âcorrelation vs. causationâ, but⌠In this case, trauma both correlates and causes? Like, the research proves itâs connected. Enough said.
Yes, it does. I donât think youâre making the point you think youâre making.
OH BOY. Uhm. What kind of argument is this? No one is saying multiplicity is bad? Itâs out of the ordinary? Itâs a result that is caused by trauma?Â
Honestly, theyâve already lost me. WTF. Why are you immediately implying âcauseâ is related to something negative? Your definition that you screencapped doesnât say that. Youâve added this layer of negativity for no reason at all other than to guilt people and make a false argument.
LOL, okay, so this person, who has created this huge not for profit to âhelpâ all these plurals is just⌠so misinformed and confused. Yes, lots of people are traumatized. Not all of them are traumatized for extremely long periods of time, years and years on end, and some people just⌠GENUINELY deal with stress and trauma better than others. There are also biological and mental factors that can increase someoneâs likelihood of developing this disorder. Itâs got to be a PERFECT STORM of things to result in DID. DID is not the norm, itâs the exception, so itâs EXPECTED that not everyone will end up with the disorder.Â
Every. Single. Argument. They make here is just turning the truth around. Thatâs it. Theyâre not actually making any valid points, theyâre just going, âYEAH, WELLâ
None of the above points are true.Â
Itâs expected we wonât remember trauma, so no, itâs not included. Yes, thatâs on purpose, based on the understanding that YOU WONâT REMEMBER. That would make diagnosis impossible. Also, it seems theyâve forgotten about OSDD here, which involves no amnesia.Â
Trauma history is not a part of the screening process for DID/OSDD because itâs assumed thatâs the ONLY cause. If the alters are truly present, trauma is implied and assumed. It doesnât need to be proven.
Again, trauma is personal and can be seen on scans. That doesnât mean we need to see it. For a group that preaches about taking people on their word, theyâre kind of pissy when doctors do just that. As well, the ability to see it on scans is very new. Up until now we havenât had that ability. Doctors are working with what theyâve got.
NO ONE IS ACTUALLY SUGGESTING THIS, STOP.
It is 99.99999% proven to be trauma, and weâre not going to traumatize children to get to 100%. There is ZERO reason to bring this up except to make âsysmedsâ looks horrible.
Youâre misunderstanding why this change was added to the DSM. In previous versions, switches needed to be seen by the diagnosing clinician, and it was letting people slip through the cracks. Personally, in all my years of therapy, I have never switched in that office. Iâm so anxious and have so much to talk about that I get front stuck. Without this change, I never would have been diagnosed. This doesnât allow for endogenics to exist, it allows for system to say âIâm experiencing this despite the fact that youâre not seeing itâ. The âassociation with traumaâ is still there. It hasnât disappeared.Â
What does this have to do with anything?Â
Also, letâs take a look at this.
HMMMM, your numbers are a little off there, and obviously these words are being used in a variety of ways, so⌠you canât just⌠say how many times a word is used and expect it to mean something.Â
No, youâre not a doctor, so STOP IT. Obviously they choose the word associated because they want THAT specific connotation. Connected to. Related to. Corresponding with. Accompanied by. If you look at the thesaurus, itâs actually a synonym for âcorrelationâ. Grow up.Â
LMAO NO ONE IS DOING THIS??? HOLY FUCKKKK
No one is doing ANY of this. Saying âif youâre plural you have traumaâ =/= âFIND THE TRAUMA, IMMEDIATELYâ. It doesnât need to be ethically studied, itâs already BEEN studied, the relation is there.
Okay, hereâs something we can actually argue about. Except I already have, please see this thread. You are not experiencing cultural forms of multiplicity, and youâre gross for implying you are.Â
Also, if this was the case, and endogenics existed, there WOULD be more information about them. Are you implying that clinicians have been aware ALL this time, BEFORE any of the research was EVER done??? OH WOW, IS IT TIMETRAVEL? IS IT CLAIRVOYANCE? OR ARE YOU JUST MISUNDERSTANDING THIS PART? As if the DSM knew about endogenics and excluded this ânaturalâ multiplicity before the very first FMRI study was EVER CONDUCTED.