#JediDefender

Between the Jedi Order and the Mandalorians it is the latter that is xenophobic.

We see Jedis openly practice their native customs while Mandos call foreigner/outsiders traitors and to no longer be Mandalorian is considered your losing soul. Their culture only accepts people of different species who have the attitudes they value.

Especially in the EU

Examples:

There is an entire tradition based on adopting children found in combatzones (why do Mandos find so many unattended children on battlefields in order for this tradition to exist 🤔)

Practice slavery (both in EU (for example Mandalorian Crusades) and in TCW Season 4 episode 14)

Good old killing unarmed civilians in the same TCW episode as above (wonder if anyone adopted the kids)

Genocide, so many genocides (especially EU). They are like a top contender for the ''How many genocides can a people commit'' -record besides the Sith

War is a religious practice and peace is considered slothful and a force of decay (EU)

If you do not practice all the rules (resol'nare) you will be cast out of the community (this happens in both EU and modern canon ((The Mandalorian)) and declared soulless (a fate culturally considered worse than death), this happens often enough that this has it's own term: dar'manda

The word for foreigner or outsider is the same as the word for traitor: aruetii

The resol'nare holds 6 rules you need to follow in order to be considered Mandalorian: speak the language, raise your children as Mandalorians, wearing the armor, defend yourself and your clan, contribute to the clans welfare, rally to the cause of the Mand'alor (translates to sole ruler) when called.

Remember if you don't follow them all you are not Mandalorian which means you may be considered at best kind of a foreigner/outsider/traitor and at worst soulless if you:

Are an adoptee who maintains their native language and / or cultural practices

Help your adopted child maintain any of their native language and / or cultural practices

Are in a position where your armor is more of a hindrance than help and therefore don't wear it. Examples: diplomacy (any kind of situation where you need to convince people that you are not planning to hold them at gunpoint or to overlook the many genocides your people have committed), on the run and need to hide the fact you're Mandalorian, to poor to obtain and maintain armor

Self-defense is cool

what happens when you have a disability (mental or physical) and can't contribute

You disagree with the Mand'alors cause and refuse to support them. No one actually knows how the Mand'alor gets the job so if there are multiple Mand'alors running around not only do you get a civil war, half of them think you're soulless and probably better of dead.

I will follow up on the Jedi in comparison in another post.

The amount of people who do not understand what "attachment" means to the Jedi is honestly a little frightening. Even though the explanation is just one Wookiepedia search away:

that's literally what the end of avengers set up. and then all the rest of the movies just pretended like that didn't happen. tony was literally building them all rooms in avengers tower. and look avengers (2012) wasn't perfect, but it had so much potential that the rest of the mcu just destroyed. the mcu would ignore their friendships unless it was convenient.

“The more I learn about the Jedi, the more I… I don’t know, the more I want to change things… Sitting high up in this mountain with trials and riddles. Master Luke’s temple burning down. People giving away their children just because they could use the Force. It doesn’t work, does it? I would have lost my parents either way. The Jedi would have taken me, separated us, and that loss never goes away. It could be different. Not a temple hidden in the mountains, not the Jedi and everyone else…”

“Jedi were taught to let go of all attachments, but everyone needs something to fight for, and more than just ideas, people.”

(Of fucking course, it's written by someone with a darth revan tattoo, i fucking hate that character and his fans)

This pisees me off in particular because they're doing this with Rey

Rey who in the films idolizes and is in awe of the Jedi, who has nothing but respect for them, who says nothing like this crap in the movies, who is used as the other side to Luke's failure induced myopia of the Jedi being broken and flawed

But let's just rapid fire all this gets wrong

Giving away children did work, for thousands of Jedi, Lucas literally says training from infancy is the best way to make Jedi, that Anakin wouldn't have fallen if that were the case for him

No, the Jedi ain't sitting on high, that's just fucking stupid

Yeah they gave trials and riddles, it's called trying, this is how it works

No, you literally would not have felt loss, that's the whole point of taking in children from infancy, so they don't form attachments, if a child feels a loss after leaving their parents that's proof that they're too old to start Jedi training

What fucking temple hidden in the mountains

What does "Jedi and everyone else" mean? Is this that stupid "they're disconnected from the people/ they don't understand regular people/they live apart from people (yknow, like monks do)" crap? Because uh nope, that's not a thing

The Jedi did fight for people, they fought for the Republic and wole damn galaxy, gave their lives to protect people, because the Jedi's whole deal is compassion and unconditional love without favoritism for all

And what the fuck is wrong with fighting for ideas? What is wrong with the Jedi fighting for things like freedom, democracy, and peace? Why are those not enough? Why do they need a personal investment to care?

My only solice is that this is a book, not a movie or show, so it's not real canon, hopefully any new stuff with her and the rebuilding Jedi order takes nothing from this

One thing I think people overlook when they say "the Jedi should have listened to Dooku on Geonosis" is that Dooku had already betrayed the Jedi Order. Regardless of whether or not you think his disillusionment with the Jedi Order was valid, he quite literally betrayed all of them in the worst way possible.

Dooku could have just walked away, but instead he decided to weaponize the compassion of the people who had trusted him for years, and he fell to the dark side. Dooku became cruel, unmoved by the plight of others, used his own powers to oppress, and killed without mercy.

What reason did the Jedi have to even trust Dooku on Geonosis? Why would the Jedi suddenly take Dooku at his word after he had already demonstrated that he was willing to deceive, manipulate, and kill? "Well Dooku was right and the Jedi were too arrogant to believe him" when he fully betrayed their trust. Obi-Wan rejected what Dooku was offering because he refused the dark side, but he still reported everything that Dooku said to him back to the Jedi Council afterwards.

The Jedi address this at the end of Attack of the Clones. They make it a point to keep a closer eye on the Senate, which becomes increasingly difficult for them to do because the war is keeping them occupied. It's almost like Dooku telling Obi-Wan about Darth Sidious but not telling him that Darth Sidious was Supreme Chancellor Palpatine was all part of the whole game. He revealed just enough to make the Jedi suspicious, but that still wasn't much to go on. Even if they had suspected Palpatine was the Sith Lord, they had no proof.

It's not an accident this was revealed to them just as the Clone Wars began. It wasn't like the Jedi were standing around doing nothing while Darth Sidious gained more and more power. They were dying in a war they actively tried to avoid. A war that was orchestrated by two Sith Lords whose ultimate goal was the destruction of the Jedi Order and, eventually, unlimited power.

like anakin being a slave in his childhood isn't some sort of divine trial that tests both the Order and the Republic on whether they have the right to live and need "divine cleansing". The Force is not God or any mythological gods, it is an energy field that is sustained by the living. The slave part of Anakin's story is an easy way for the audience to realise anakin's character flaws and what he will struggle with his whole life. Star Wars is sometimes that deep but these are kid's movies that supposed to be easy to understand. Anakin can't be some sort of space Jesus because Jesus actually lived a sinless life and sacrificed himself to right humanity's wrongdoings and offer a path to forgiveness. Anakin murdered an entire tribe then went on to become the right-hand man to the equivalent of Hitler. People should stop reading the "born of no father" part of the prophecy and start thinking about the "destroy the sith and bring balance to the Force". The sith are killed, balance is regained. It's that simple.

At the same time Anakin is not Zeus hiding himself as an old man and beggar and goes out to some village to see if they are compassionate with him. And when the village failed with the exception of an old couple, they were flooded and the village destroyed while the old woman and man were rewarded by turning into a tree as a symbol of love everlasting.