I think one of the funniest abortion stances I've heard was from my parents neighbor. He's a like, hard-core libertarian viking larper guy who is very tall and very fat and very bald.
He believes a fetus is human with a soul, but also its "basically attacking the woman's body" so if she wants to get rid of it, that's "basically self-defense". He compared it to shooting a home invader. So he supports abortion not as healthcare, but as killing a baby in self-defense
Y'know I'm so glad someone reminded me of this. Because this was also discussed.
My stepmother did NOT like the way her Libertarian Viking Neighbor framed pregnancy as the fetus "attacking the woman". She incredulously told him this was extremely disrespectful to expectant mothers to portray pregnancy as so violent and negative.
Libertarian Viking Neighbor's response was that people consensually hurt each other all the time, and "there's like a whole community about that, with the acronym the one that starts with a B" And his reasoning was that if the mother was consenting to bring attacked by the baby, it in fact wasn't violent and negative because there was consent.
He brought up people consensually hurting each other, didn't go for one of the obvious answers like boxing or body mods or something, no he went STRAIGHT TO BDSM and he DIDN'T EVEN REMEMBER THE ACRONYM
This is reminding me of my Grandma's boyfriend. Up until this, he was on his best behavior. Was Christmas day and I was visiting my parents about 20 mins away, I had gotten a new TV for Christmas.
When I was in the mudroom getting ready to leave to go back home, I lamented on the fact that it was near impossible to get a TV with HDR, eArc, etc. that wasn't stupid expensive.
He told me I should blame "the Jews"
I just, looked at him.
He didn't seem like he cared. Would have called him out if it weren't for the fact I was tired but. Jesus.
Have seen him once since then at Thanksgiving and he barely talked at all
