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unemployed and posting about newcomb's problem
In his original paper on what we now call the "many-worlds" interpretation, Everett motivated it with quantum cosmology, since there's nowhe

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Powerful LLMs will be deployed at global scale in the next few years, and will dominate the Internet, and increasingly, ordinary life. As of
I've been thinking something similar, but calling it an "exoself", like from the Greg Egan novels.
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sometimes i think love triangles should be resolved by polyamory but badly like everyoneâs still mad
also, I didn't realize Brent Dill was also teaching life philosophy based on Mage: The Ascension.
Meanwhile here I am reading more Mage franchise schlock
it's not good but it's fun, it's the kind of novel i could have read as a kid, when i was reading wizards of the coast novels
i know the people who think Mage is philosophically deep are reading the rulebooks, not the franchise fiction, but i think good game fiction (by the standards of game fiction), you should be able to say of it, the rulebook exists as a framework for telling stories like this.
so i feel like I should be able to pick up on something...
well, maybe i already know what they see in it, and I disagree. The core mechanic seems to be conflicting "paradigms". Like there's no objective reality, just belief, but belief isn't just individual. The dominant paradigm is like mechanistic physics, which is why magic doesn't work in public, but other paradigms enable magic, as long as they don't conflict openly with the dominant paradigm or each other. Since I'm placebo effect posting again, it stands out to me that this is another "beliefs become reality" type thing, the kind of thing where people say "and that may sound implausible but there's actually at least one scientifically documented example" and bring up the placebo effect. But maybe that's a spurious connection.

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I liked Ozy's post "Why Are There So Many Rationalist Cults?" but it goes so easy on CFAR. Maybe because Ozy is friends with some of these people?
The rationalist organization the Center for Applied Rationality seems at first blush like an exception to this rule. It develops curricula and teaches workshops about how to think more rationally, but â while in the past it occasionally blurred the line between rationality curriculum development, people management, and therapy â it doesnât seem to have approached the level of Leverage Research. CFAR mostly tests its newly developed rationality techniques on outside volunteers, for about an hour each. They donât do eight-hour debugging sessions.
True, they didn't have eight-hour debugging sessions, but about that...
jessicata â My experience at and around MIRI and CFAR (inspired by Zoe Curzi's writeup of experiences at Leverage):
Zoe notes a hierarchical structure where people debugged people they had power over: ... This was also the case around MIRI and CFAR. A lot of debugging was done by Anna Salamon, head of CFAR at the time; Ben Hoffman noted that "every conversation with Anna turns into an Anna-debugging-you conversation", which resonated with me and others.
But that's really besides the point... what I think is not really that CFAR was a Leverage-like cult, or on some spectrum partway to being one, but that they were a cult incubator, like the Y Combinator of cults.
Like... okay, Ozy is going to use Brent Dill as one of their core examples of a rationalist cult leader, and never mention that he was a CFAR instructor, or the way a CFAR-associated org initially dismissed allegations against him?
This seems related to something from the beginning of the post that was almost but not quite right...
The Sequences make certain implicit promises. There is an art of thinking better, and weâve figured it out. If you learn it, you can solve all your problems, become brilliant and hardworking and successful and happy, and be one of the small elite shaping not only society but the entire future of humanity. This is, not to put too fine a point on it, not true.
It's more like, there could be an art of thinking better, and we should get together and work it out. A more modest claim, also not true; it was premised on what turned out to be undue trust in academic psychology. Not that rationality instruction is inherently impossible, but the narrative was that the scientific background is in place to work out the practice.
Anyway, this was the framework for matching people with self-improvement ideas to people willing to try them. CFAR instructors were often people like Duncan Sabien or Brent Dill with their own theories and followers, and the abusive ones we sometimes call cult leaders. (Ziz, though, was prudently denied any position at CFAR)
i guess it just seems to me like the idea of set theory as "foundations" is from before the concept of universality and doesn't really hold up well after it. Like if you've got a set of axioms, like those of geometry, or an axiomization of the real numbers, it's cool to construct sets that satisfy these axioms, and informative if you weren't sure the axioms were consistent. But that's not a "foundation"... although of course the concern with foundations was related to people actually not knowing how to reason consistently in calculus, so maybe i'm making a distinction where i shouldn't
asserting consistency in provability logic:
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symbol by symbol: it's not the case that you can prove a contradiction
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Interpreting that in terms of Kripke models, this requires that there's a visible world, without requiring anything in particular to be true at that world
Like, this Kripke frame satisfies consistency at world 0:
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But this one doesn't:
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I find this very intuitively appealing. Consistency means that there's some possible world that we're talking about, in which the stuff we say is provable is true.
regarding something @wildgifthorses posted about trends in what kind of knowledge makes you money affecting trends in literature (or somehting like that, i don't remember)...
when i read early 20th century authors that want to sound smart, they're eager to sound well travelled and knowledgeable about foreign cultures, and when they're particularly unselfaware this degenerates into a mass of questionable trivia about the fine differences between different kinds of european
gravity's rainbow is of course an erudite novel, and my kind of erudition in fact, but what was hard for me to deal with was how pynchon does not care at all about what british people are like.
See the location of the Trinity Test, site of the first human-caused first nuclear detonation.
human-caused
as opposed to what? bigfoot nukes? ET?
Depending your preferred parameter values in the Drake Equation, perhaps some intelligent lifeform detonated a nuke elsewhere in the universe before us. No way to rule it out!
we should start applying this qualifier to other feats for the same reason!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova
Stands to reason there have been spots in Earth's history that went and detonated themselves.
a detonation is much harder to achieve than a sustained reaction. enrico fermi did the latter with some graphite and a football team in a cave basement
whereas with fusion a detonation is easy (conditional on being able to detonate fission bombs) and a sustained reaction is hard, thus still using fission for electricity production

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One lovely coincidence in my manuscript is that in 1998 purchasing value was roughly 50% of what it is today. A $50 dress becomes a $100 dress. A $200 monthly stipend becomes a $400 monthly stipend. A $500K house becomes a $5 million dollar house, hold on wait a minute.
reading some white wolf franchise slop (the Penny Dreadful novel), and it's bad, bloated like wildbow but like the protags are playing a game on a lower difficulty level, encountering NPCs that exist to provide easy victories (described at tedious length).
but some of the stuff that seemed too easy actually worked out alright...
it annoyed me that Penny has a blood conjuring spell for her vampire boss, it seemed to undermine the setting. Until I realized it's actually a spell for extracting the victim's blood from a murder weapon, and it's another case of Penny stealing her power from the evil witch Jodi, since she has Jodi's sacrificial knives. In fact Jodi regularly sacrificing babies for hundreds of years was already in the short stories that preceeded the novel, so it's not just being filled in for convenience
Then, speaking of Jodi, i thought she was going easy on Penny to keep the game on easy. Definitely had a chance to kill or hurt her but didn't take it. BUT it turned out that's because what Jodi wants more than revenge is someone to take her place in her contract with her demon patron. And I already knew that because, again, it was in one of the earlier short stories, so if I hadn't been so quick to assume it was bad writing, maybe I could have inferred Jodi was planning to force Penny into substituting (which would be the best revenge anyway). Jodi still feels too friendly to fit her backstory and I think a Wildbow analogue would have been less convenient. You don't have to use horror elements in your story but if you do, you should follow through like Wildbow imo
The year is 1492. You are the Catholic Monarchs - both of them. Isabel and Fernando, tanto monta, monta tanto. You have just finished kicking all of the Muslim powers out of Iberia, and youâre feeling so pleased with yourselves that you expel the Jews about it. You have a problem, though - thereâs this annoying Genoese moron named Christopher Columbus who keeps waving some bad math at you, insisting that the world is actually smaller than everyone thinks it is and he could totally sail to India by going west. He gets on your nerves so much that you just give him a couple of ships and send him off. He definitely wonât make it to India, but maybe heâll find some little island and give all of your newly-unemployed hidalgos something to keep them busy. Heâll probably just starve to death in the middle of the ocean, and then heâs no longer your problem.
The year is 1519, and you are HernĂĄn CortĂŠs. You and all of your compatriots are stuck in the most effective way to make someone a bad person: put them in a situation where they must become incredibly wealthy and powerful incredibly fast or else they will die horribly. Transatlantic voyages are absurdly expensive. Anyone in the âNew Worldâ who isnât rich enough to afford their own army is deeply in debt, with no collateral but their own sword-arm. It is an environment that does not reward half-measures. It does not even reward full measures. It only rewards putting a brick on the gas pedal and crossing your fingers - if you kill one person then youâre a murderer, but if you kill hundreds of thousands of people then you're a paragon of glory and the Spanish crown will make statues of you.
The year is still 1519 and you are Moctezuma II, HuÄyi TlahtoÄni (great ruler) of the âAztec Empire,â also known as the Triple Alliance, or the Mexica. You know a thing or two about half-measures not being rewarded, because you are in a process of rapidly expanding and consolidating a nascent Mesoamerican empire. You are quite good at your job - even before you ascended to the throne, you cultivated a reputation as a skilled warrior, a dedicated student, and a devout worshiper. Your name means something like âlord who frowns in anger.â Itâs a fitting name, because the process of âimperial expansion and consolidationâ generally involves killing lots of people. To make matters worse, some weird hairy white guys showed up out of nowhere and they keep demanding an audience with you. You try every trick in the diplomatic handbook - deferment, threats, flattery, bribes - but everything you do just seems to make them more single-mindedly focused on your destruction. Later, after you are dead, they will claim that you thought they were gods.
The year is 1545, and this whole âcolonialismâ thing is starting to peter out. Trans-Atlantic voyages are still ruinously expensive, and the pickings are getting slimmer every day - itâs not like you can go loot Tenochtitlan a second time. Youâre starting to wonder if itâs time for everyone to pack up, go home, and forget about⌠holy shit is that a mountain of silver? Is that an honest-to-god mountain with more silver in it than every other existing silver mine on the face of the earth combined? Yes. Some call it PotosĂ. Many will call it âthe mountain that eats men.â In a single moment, colonialism goes from a plundering campaign for recently-unemployed soldiers to a permanent institution. The alchemists back in Prague and Vienna never learned how to turn lead into gold, but the mercenaries and taskmasters in PotosĂ found a much simpler equation to turn blood into silver.
The year is 1571, and the economy of the Ming dynasty doesnât feel so good. Their experiment with paper money was a failure, to put it gently. The experiment with paper money failed horribly. It turns out when you try to have paper currency but you donât have sophisticated counterfeit protections and thereâs also a booming cottage industry of people making paper in their cottages, well, you can guess how that ends. So youâre trying to shift to a silver economy. But then you run into an even bigger problem: you donât have enough silver. So if you start demanding taxes in silver, the price of silver will skyrocket, which means taxes will skyrocket when the economy is already ailing from the whole âpaper moneyâ thing. Some hapless scholar-official in Guangdong is nervously watching a peasant sharpen his pitchfork when he gets word from a messenger: some gweilo just showed up at the part with literal shipfuls of silver and they want to buy silk, tea, spices, and porcelain at outrageous markups.
Within living memory, the world was still âmedievalâ in many ways - slow, parochial, zero-sum, carefully arbitrated by tradition and precedent. Legible. And now Spanish sailors take Bolivian silver on ships guarded by West African mercenaries and Japanese ronin, sailing to their colony in the Philippines to rub shoulders with Chinese officials, Indian sultans, and Malay merchants. All because some dipshit from Genoa got his math wrong and wouldnât shut up about it.
The moral of this story is that Iâm going insane.
Daniel Clement Dennett III (March 28, 1942 â April 19, 2024) was an American philosopher and cognitive scientist.
Douglas Richard Hofstadter (born 15 February 1945) is an American cognitive and computer scientist whose research includes concepts such as the sense of self in relation to the external world,[3][4]consciousness, analogy-making, strange loops, ambigrams,[5][6]artificial intelligence, and discovery in mathematics and physics.
David John Chalmers (/ËtĘÉËmÉrz/;[1] born 20 April 1966)[2] is an Australian philosopher and cognitive scientist, specializing in philosophy of mind and philosophy of language.
Marvin Minsky (August 9, 1927 â January 24, 2016)[5] was an American mathematician who did research in cognitive and computer science aspects of artificial intelligence (AI).
okay guys what' "cognitive science". Like what scientific result of cognitive science has any of these guys discovered. Not really expecting an answer, I think they're just writers, except for Marvin Minsky because his group wrote like chess programs and computer algebra systems (which is to say, they did important computer stuff that wasn't "cognitive science")
@youzicha said:
George A. Miller discovered the 7Âą2 limit of short-term memory. Herbert A. Simon got a nobel prize for studying decision-making in organizations. Noam Chomsky reinvented linguistics.
George Armitage Miller (February 3, 1920 â July 22, 2012)[1] was an American psychologist who was one of the founders of cognitive psychology, and more broadly, of cognitive science.Â
Herbert Alexander Simon (June 15, 1916 â February 9, 2001) was an American scholar whose work influenced the fields of computer science, economics, and cognitive psychology. ... His research was noted for its interdisciplinary nature, spanning the fields of cognitive science, computer science, public administration, management, and political science.[9]
Avram Noam Chomsky[a] (born December 7, 1928) is an American intellectual, philosopher, linguist, political activist, and social critic. Sometimes called "the father of modern linguistics",[b] Chomsky is also a major figure in analytic philosophy and one of the founders of the field of cognitive science.
i was ready to reply to noam chomsky with "okay but then what has any so-called cognitive scientist ever contributed to cognitive science" but cognitive science is there in the second sentence at least. And Miller has it in the first sentence.
Eliezer Yudkowsky â Against Modal Logics:
In the Wittgensteinian era, philosophy has been about language - about trying to give precise meaning to terms. The kind of work that I try to do is not about language. It is about reducing mentalistic models to purely causal models, about opening up black boxes to find complicated algorithms inside, about dissolving mysteries - in a word, about cognitive science. That's what I think post-Wittgensteinian philosophy should be about - cognitive science. But this kind of reductionism is hard work. Ideally, you're looking for insights on the order of Julian Barbour's Machianism, to reduce time to non-time; insights on the order of Judea Pearl's conditional independence, to give a mathematical structure to causality that isn't just finding a new way to say "because"; insights on the order of Bayesianism, to show that there is a unique structure to uncertainty expressed quantitatively.
Julian Barbour and Judea Pearl? Not the examples I would have thought of. If we're including a physicist like Barbour, how about Boltzmann for a less controversial example? For reducing directional time to reversible physics?
Well, whether we call this cognitive science or not, it's an appealing way of framing research, and I think Yudkowsky et al's work at MIRI has gotten most of the way there to this kind of reduction of possibility, at least in the context of decision. I've always thought of that as logic but I guess it is a different way of doing logic than I've seen in philosophy.

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Maybe this is wrong but I'm lately using sonnet a lot, and feeling like it's my job to set up requests so that they can be fulfilled by sonnet, so that if I need Opus I've failed. For programming tasks anyway. I mean it depends, sometimes I need to puzzle out a difficult bug, but i think most of the time, i should be setting up problems so that they can be solved with persistence
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