one of my many silly danganronpa headcanons is that the RoboJustice seen in the killing game was not the first one
I think that at some point pre despair, Celeste and Hifumi worked on some project together (class mascot for the school festival maybe?) and they ended with the RoboJustice suit. no one knows where they got the idea from but they built the whole thing and everyone looked at it and went "umm ok not what we asked for but i guess??? that's definitely overkill for what we asked for??" and everyone thinks it’s a little ridiculous but Celeste and Hifumi love the thing. they’re so proud of it (secretly on Celeste's part but you can tell). every excuse to do so they will make Hiro wear it to the point where everyone has just begrudgingly accepted it
and then, later the killing game happens. Junko sees that Celeste has recruited Hifumi. she sees them working on building something. she thinks to herself "surely they’re not making that fucking robot suit but it sure looks like it but no that would be conspicuous and stupid, it can't even bend at the waist" and low and behold
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Based on all info from the games/manga/anime/stage show, plus these relationship charts.
POSITIVE
Celeste & Makoto: This is one of two of the most developed relationships Celeste has with a classmate. Makoto is drawn to Celeste because of how mysterious she is. He is instantly wary of her and under no illusions as to what a bitch she can be, yet also cannot help trying to get to know her and be nice to her in order to understand her better. As seen in her final FTE and School Mode, in spite of her best efforts this does end up getting to Celeste, leading to her promoting Makoto to "C Rank" in the former and even "B Rank" in the latter. The bond they formed even gets displayed in the Chapter 3 Class Trial where Celeste momentarily malfunctions trying desperately to stay in character when she is shaken by Makoto's earnest plea for her to just be honest, and after her execution where Makoto is upset that Monokuma tempted her into villainy since he truly did consider her a friend up to that point, with him later absolving her of all guilt in the Chapter 6 Class Trial once he learned that Junko stole everyone's memories, since nobody would have murdered anybody had those memories been retained. While the positive nature of their relationship makes sense on Makoto's end, on Celeste's end it's more enigmatic until you realize that she probably sees much of her hidden self of Taeko Yasuhiro in Makoto: a plain, boring kid with a passive talent based around luck. In learning to love Makoto and the unexpected kindness he shows to her, she is slowly, subconsciously beginning to learn to love herself beyond just the Celeste cover.
Celeste & Mondo (One-Sided): Celeste has a strange sort of respect for Mondo. While she considers him dumb and isn't afraid to let him know it, she admires him for living true to himself, the way she sees herself doing. In actuality of course, she is not living "true to herself", and she probably senses on a subconscious level that neither is Mondo. Seeing some of herself in Mondo also extends to his explosive temper, which she always calmy tries to defuse whenever it comes out. Mondo, however, doesn't care all that much for Celeste.
Celeste & Byakuya (One-Sided): Being as rich, smart, powerful and famous as she would like to be, Celeste naturally holds great admiration toward Byakuya. When she attempts to tell him that the two of them are similar, however, Byakuya takes it as an insult and tells her to shut up, as he can tell she's a mere commoner playing pretend. Byakuya thinks so little of Celeste that in School Mode he even forgets her name upon Makoto mentioning it...and then when he remembers her to be "the gambling girl", he says bluntly that he has no interest in her at all. The only time he expressed respect toward her was when she was a murderer.
Celeste & Sayaka: We only see a little of their relationship, but it seems to be one of mutual cordial politeness. Celeste appears to suspect that there is more to Sayaka than meets the eye and that she is much shrewder than she lets on, but doesn't pursue the matter. As far as she's concerned, Sayaka should be allowed her social mask just as she is allowed her own.
Celeste & Kyoko: Kyoko is someone that Celeste respects for her intelligence, something she displays in the first two Class Trials, which leads to her conversing more with Kyoko on serious matters during the third chapter. When composing her murder plan, Celeste sees Kyoko as the biggest threat to it and tries to ensure she's involved as little as possible. After being exposed as the culprit in the third Class Trial, Celeste also remarks that she knew Kyoko would figure out that she utilized Alter Ego in her plan, and before being executed specifically chooses Kyoko to give the key to Alter Ego's location, almost letting some genuine feelings slip since she knows Kyoko is the most invested in the idea of Alter Ego as a means of escaping Hope's Peak...an idea Celeste just couldn't bring herself to believe in.
For her part, Kyoko starts out not showing Celeste any more emotion than she does any of the other students. However, Kyoko's reaction in Celeste's official Relationship Chart and her commentary when Makoto brings Celeste up to her in School Mode suggest that, just like Makoto, she finds Celeste's mysterious deceptiveness intriguing and enjoys trying to "solve" her. The calm yet faintly sad way she looks at Celeste prior to her execution indicates that she does end up seeing past her facade, and the manga even confirms that she internally mourns for her after being given the key to Alter Ego, showing that she respected her too.
Celeste & Sakura: They hold a mutual respect for one another, as Celeste admires Sakura's diligence while Sakura admires the "steady courage" that resides within Celeste. In USC, after Sakura carries Celeste to where she can receive medical attention after spraining her ankle, Celeste displays an almost romantic attraction to Sakura by bemoaning the fact that she is not a handsome man because she would gladly have her live with her in her castle if she was. Sakura tells Celeste that she must have patience, for meeting the right sort of men for her dream will likely take time; advice that Celeste begrudgingly accepts from her. In the stage show where the third and fourth chapters are combined, Celeste is also shown to have respected Sakura and is thus infuriated when she sees her ingest poison, mistakenly thinking that she's simply trying to escape the Killing Game through suicide. This causes her to snap as she tries to beat Sakura to death with a metal bat so that she can instead be the one to escape: either through becoming the Blackened if she succeeds in killing Sakura, or through execution if she fails...in other words, a gamble, one that is worthy of Celestia Ludenberg.
Celeste & Chihiro (One-Sided): Celeste respects Chihiro for persevering despite the visible fear she shows, the kind of fear that Celeste keeps repressed at all times. Chihiro, on the other hand, is understandably intimidated by Celeste and thus doesn't go out of her way to hang out with her. The respect Celeste had for Chihiro means that she is angered when Chihiro dies having broken the Nighttime Rule that Celeste created, with her coldly saying that Chihiro got what she deserved for her defiance of the rule. Unfortunately, we don't get to see a reaction from Celeste upon learning Chihiro's true gender or hear her thoughts about it.
NEGATIVE
Celeste & Taka: Taka shows annoyance at Celeste for flouting school rules and not pulling her weight in group efforts enough, while Celeste is irritated at Taka for being such a hard-assed stickler for school rules even when they aren't partaking in a regular school semester. Celeste also becomes afraid of Taka when he becomes "Kiyondo", seeing him as a potential threat since he's behaving like the previous murderer, which is why she targets him for killing.
Celeste & Leon: Leon holds no interest in Celeste since he's "into more pure-hearted girls", while Celeste (like most) sees Leon as nothing but a frivolous moron. She is also angered by him starting the Killing Game by killing Sayaka when he didn't need to (whether out of anger or a misguided attempt at helping her by himself), although his execution still disturbs her.
Celeste & Hiro: Celeste dislikes Hiro immediately, since he's a lazy, imbecilic bum who has her real last name as his first name. This is why she callously frames him for murder later on.
Celeste & Hifumi (One-Sided): And this would be the other most developed relationship Celeste shares with a classmate. In Chapter 2, Celeste decides that she needs a servant in her back pocket now that the Killing Game is on, so she recruits Hifumi since he appears the easiest to manipulate. Right away, we see that a servant's loyalty means a lot to her, as any backtalk or failure on Hifumi's part risks her breaking her facade and erupting in anger. Hifumi's infatuation with Alter Ego becomes the last straw, as Celeste decides to use him and his feelings for it in her murder plot that involves killing him too after he's served his purpose in helping her. And even here Hifumi ends up causing her a lot of trouble through designing an unwieldy Robo-Justice costume which makes it impossible for Hiro to have killed anyone while wearing it, wiping his glasses of blood and throwing away the handkerchief which exposes that he was faking his death at the time, and saying her real first name of Yasuhiro before dying for real. It's to the point where simply thinking about him enrages her during the Class Trial, and thus the guilt she feels for betraying and killing him is willfully buried deep.
Hifumi, meanwhile, liked and trusted Celeste, making his ultimate fate all the more tragic.
Celeste & Hina: Their relationship is a simple one - Celeste finds Hina to be dumb and Hina finds Celeste to be mean. Despite this, they are able to tolerate one another's company often, and despite her anger at being manipulated and having two of her friends killed by Celeste, Hina still sheds tears for Celeste when she is executed, as she still valued her life.
Celeste & Mukuro (One-Sided): Mukuro as "Junko" seems perfectly fine with Celeste, but Celeste is irritated by Mukuro's inability to conceal her emotions, with her temper and vulgar language reminding her too much of Taeko Yasuhiro for comfort. Thus she coldly bids her a "good riddance" after she is killed, with any horror at her death being masked perfectly.
Celeste & Toko: Toko is as hostile and judgmentally misogynistic toward Celeste as she is the other girls, while Celeste either ignores Toko altogether or treats her with condescending amusement. And naturally, Celeste steers clear of Genocide Jack after she first emerges.
FLIPPED TO POSITIVE
Celeste & Hifumi: Whenever the Killing Game isn't a factor, Celeste and Hifumi actually get on quite well. Hifumi is able to become a competent servant for Celeste who satisfies her unquenchable thirst for royal milk tea, and Celeste in turn provides Hifumi with a lot of inspiration for his manga creating. In the past before their memories are wiped, we see a photo where Hifumi has stolen fake eyelashes from Celeste, who is trying to take them back while attempting to be angry but clearly blushing and laughing as she does so. We also know that Celeste let Hifumi in on her real name, which she wouldn't do unless she trusted him. In USC, there is even a nice moment between them at the bonfire where Celeste tells Hifumi that she will save a room in her castle for him if he ever reincarnates into a handsome vampire, and showing no judgement when he says he'd rather reincarnate into a Magical Girl. Their mutual fondness for manga is also an unspoken source of camaraderie between them.
Celeste & Taka: In School Mode, Taka mentions that he has played darts with Celeste, and in UTDP we see them engage in a friendly, respectful shogi rivalry, with Taka serving her tea every time he loses. Since he constantly loses, he bemoans his failure and calls himself a loser, which causes a fleeting showing of empathy from Celeste as she looks sad. When he finally draws against her, she praises his luck, while he insists it was the result of his hard work in never giving up challenging her, which sparks a bet between them as to whether his hard work can improve society at large or not. In USC, they even play video games together.
Celeste & Mukuro: In scenarios outside of the Killing Game, Celeste is more polite and respectful toward Mukuro. They aren't exactly friends, but there's no hostility present either.
Celeste & Toko: In USC, Celeste is shown to be friends with Genocide Jack. Knowing that she has retired from murder and not in a Killing Game where murder is required, she has no fear of socializing with her, as seen when they and Kotoko order food and have "girl talk".
I'm finally back from hospital, hooray! I just wanted to draw some of fem.Ishimondo designs I had done 3 years ago, but than it just hit me: Why not do everyone alternative gender??
Dang, that was hard. Especially turning girls into boys… They lose a lot of cool stuff then. But I tried and it was fun!
I hope someone will like it! :)
--- Also, it's a game for you to understand who is who. If I drew without color, it WOULD be a game like that XD. Ok, I tagged them in order anyway.
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I probably won't be posting nearly as much Celeste stuff next year as I have this year, since this specific year has been one where she served me well as a comfort character. But I want to do one last analysis post on how the English localization of the original Danganronpa (Trigger Happy Havoc) could often screw up with Celeste, which had the effect of making her seem worse than she was supposed to be, or outright missing the point of the original text.
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So we start with an interesting one. In the original Japanese version, Celeste didn't deny that she had a "real name". She just said that Celestia Ludenberg is what she goes by now, so she's not giving Makoto her real name, and Makoto respects that. The English version made her more of a liar in this moment by insisting that Celestia Ludenberg is her real name.
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As you can see, the original Japanese version never said anything about an underground gambling tournament being the reason she won the title "Queen of Liars". Meanwhile, the English version claims she objectively "cleaned out the other players, taking their life savings and laughing as she did it". In the Japanese version, there's no laughter, and it stresses that her ruining the lives of people she has gambled with are scary rumors...meaning they may be lies Celeste has spread herself to appear more dangerous, something that her FTEs back up since her gambling stories are all lies based on manga, and is further backed up in the DR3 CD drama where we see her preferred gambling spots are actually laid back and wholesome rather than dark and dangerous. In short, the English version fell for her lies!
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In both versions, Celeste is masking her fear of there being a murderer among them with a blasé reaction. But the English version words it in a much colder way, while in Japanese she at least calls murder "such an unbelievable thing" to show she understands how wrong it is.
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The "pay attention" in the English version makes Celeste sound way more condescending in this moment than she did in the Japanese version, a habit that pops up a few times and is honestly OOC...Celeste's polite front is a way to avoid making any enemies in a scenario where that could prove deadly.
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This one's more about Kyoko than Celeste, but I'm a Celesgiri shipper so I had to include it. In the English version, Kyoko just gives a straightforward, robotic-sounding reply to Celeste's statement. But in the Japanese version, the sprite used and the line delivery that includes ellipses suggests Kyoko is evaluating Celeste. Earlier in the trial she appeared to have her pegged as just a pseudo-intellectual poser due to her stupid statement about the culprit cleaning hair up to remove traces of Sayaka's presence despite leaving her corpse behind, but her reaction to Celeste being the first to begin grasping the truth (that Sayaka was the aggressor, not her killer) shows that she is impressed and is now giving her more credit.
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Another needlessly condescending statement added with "Do you understand?" In the Japanese version, she's just asking if Makoto agrees with her stated viewpoint that Sayaka was unjustly killed as opposed to Leon's statement that he had to do it in self-defense.
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Here's one I did a post on. The English version trivializes Celeste's statement as just not wanting water on her face, implicitly because it would mess up her make-up. But in the Japanese version, it's a statement with ellipses (suggesting total sincerity) saying she doesn't like "getting her head underwater"....which implies that she was bullied as a child (as Taeko Yasuhiro) by having her head dunked underwater in pools, ponds and potentially even toilets.
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She is more vulgar in English, whereas she keeps her refined language in Japanese.
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The English version is phrased needlessly sinister, saying "if those who want to escape were to disappear" as if she's hoping for their deaths. But in the Japanese version, she explicitly says "if there's no one here who wants to get out, we have no reason to fear being involved in this game". I highlight "fear" because it's a tell, showing her true strategy behind this lie of "adapt and it will be fine": she is scared, and she wants to make everyone accept their fate and adapt so that she can feel safe and make herself believe her own lie about it being fine to live in Hope's Peak forever (after all, in her forgotten memories she also agreed to live there forever, because she felt safe there due to trusting her classmates...something she sadly can't do here due to Monokuma's machinations, Byakuya's attitude, and the fact that everyone keeps ignoring the Nighttime Rule she instituted to prevent distrust and murders).
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Like the tea outburst, in English she's more blunt, while politer in Japanese.
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In the Japanese version, Celeste does the thing she does in her FTEs and in School Mode where she acts superior to Makoto while at the exact same time attempting to flirt / get closer to him, showing how she wants companionship but doesn't want to appear weak as well.
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This just flat-out missed the joke. In the Japanese version, Hiro saying he knows how someone of one gender could get into the opposite gender's locker room is met with Celeste saying "how suspicious", insinuating he's a pervert. In the English version, she just says she doubts that it's possible, leading to Hiro overreacting with an uncharacteristic "Shut up!"
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Once again, Celeste is ruder in English than in Japanese.
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Twice, the English version has Celeste say something much more insensitive-sounding about Taka's condition than in the Japanese version, where she was only speaking matter-of-factly.
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Another missing of the joke. In English, she should have cried "DOHYAAAAAH!"
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