Even with all the ups and downs in his life, Foggy always assured Karen of her worth and her place in his and Matt's lives.
I always focus on Matt and Foggy’s reunion and how much I want them to have their moment when they are reunited - FOGGY’S NOT DEAD DAMN IT - ahem, excuse my outburst….But it really means so much that Karen will be reunited with Foggy, too.
This comic panel captures it perfectly, and it reminds me of the scene in S3 that makes me collapse into a puddle. Foggy gives Karen a big hug and tells her everything is going to be all right, and gives her cash for her to run. I relate deeply to Karen on an extraordinary level, and Foggy reminds me so much of my brother, it’s eerie. We’ve had word-for-word conversations like the one where Foggy tells Karen, “That’s not the kind of friend I want to be.” I am lucky enough to have my own real life Foggy in my world, who is the perfect complement to my stern, self-protective, grudge-holding flaws - especially regarding my impatience with my parents, who have abandonment trauma. My mother is Matt Murdock, who hurts me by being a pitiful, lovable orphan - that’s a unique dynamic that deserves praise for realism, too. I know to the core of my soul what it feels like to have a Foggy - someone who really is that good, that loving, and that amazing of a friend, and (shhh, I’m whispering in case my brother hears) always right! If I didn’t get to have that person in my life, I would believe Foggy is too good to be true.
Because this relationship is so personal to me - realistic and almost unsettling how true to life it is - Karen and Foggy mean the world to me. I care about their friendship more than Matt and Foggy’s, when it comes down to it, because of the way I emotionally relate to it and understand what it feels like to be the Karen to a Foggy. Take it from me; Foggy is a gift from the universe and the best thing to ever happen to Karen.
I can’t rewatch Karen’s episode because it’s too close to life. My greatest fear has always been the loss of my brother. I am from Colorado (Vermont West), my dad drove a Jeep Cherokee, my brother is younger and as a teenager I was mean like Karen when he was always an angel to me (tell him that and you’re dead to me - do you want to be responsible for giving that humble soul a big head?! 😉), my mom had cancer when I was a teen, we had family businesses, my dad checked out and left for Montana when I took care of my mom and brother when she had cancer, my outlet is dancing, I blew my college career and dropped out because of tragedy, and I was in a severe, life-changing car accident as a teen. I wasn’t driving and no one died, but I still have PTSD and neck problems. It’s all just close enough that I weep every time I watch this episode.
Anyway…I know in my soul what Foggy means to Karen, and their relationship means everything to me. I hate how Foggy’s death is treated in this show - a teaser where Karen is booted out the door and pretty much unacknowledged - and if they don’t bring back Foggy, I can’t imagine what they are possibly doing with this show other than spitting on the original. I believe Foggy will be back, 100%, and my only fear is that Karen will be left out once again.
@alizelavasseur omg yes 😭 I've been focusing my ire on how the new show sets fire to Matt and Foggy's relationship, and the absolutely bizarre mishandling of Matt's grief over losing Foggy, but I'm equally angry that we are never shown Karen's grief. Karen and Foggy's relationship has been treated as less than an afterthought in this new show. Their relationship was SO special to me in season 3. Truly, one of the best depictions of a platonic male/female relationship I have ever seen in any media. They ARE brother and sister. They NEED one another. I will never stop shouting to the rooftops that the entire POINT of season 3 was to truly beat us over the head with the fact that Matt, Foggy and Karen NEED one another to truly be their whole and complete selves. Its a house of cards, take out one, the entire structure falls. The fact that so many ppl apparently have such short memories and are seemingly ok with the decision to remove Foggy from the story is baffling to me. You didn't watch the same show, or read the same comics that I did, I guess.
I am SLOWLY coming around to maybe a more nuanced perspective of episode 9, with @alizelavasseur help. To be sure, I still am mightily pissed at episode 9, and I think it was one of the weakest in the show, and I wish it didnt exist and that episode 8 was the finale, BUT, some of the things that made me so angry about it before I've started to view from a different perspective. The fact that the writers made Karen and Matt "break up" over their mutual grief over Foggy, I think, is significant. If the show wanted to bring them together and say that together, they could overcome Foggy's absence, there are myriad other ways they could have written Karen out of the show. They could have had Matt send her away in order to protect her. They could have had her leave in order to protect HIM. The fact that they specify that their mutual grief over their best friend and brother was the cause, gives me me a sliver of hope. Because thats a gaping hole in the story that can really only be resolved in a couple of ways, and the biggest and most obvious way, is to bring Foggy back, and have all three of them united once more.
We HAVE to see Karen's grief though. We were ROBBED of that. We need more of Matt's grief, absolutely. But, Karen!!






























