OutwardJester68

Billy Butcher x Peter Parker (Spider-Man)

Hear me out. It would be an enemies to lovers.

Billy hates supes and Spidey would be a supe, so Billy would hate Spidey. Billy is a killer and a very brutal man and Spidey wouldn't like that very much.

But once Spidey realizes that Billy isn't just a killer but also a man who genuinely cares about people, in his own 'Billy' way, Spidey would like that and maybe be able to draw out the good in Billy.

Once Billy learns that Spidey is a supe and a genuinely good person it would kinda tilt Billy's world view on it's side. 'A supe is capable of being a good person? who ever heard of such a thing?'

The reason they skipped it in the first place was because everyone already knew it. We'd seen Uncle Ben die, we'd heard "with great power comes great responsibility," and we all understood that Peter blames himself for Ben's death. That's his motivation for becoming Spider-Man.

But now they've changed so much that we don't actually know his origin anymore.

If Peter doesn't blame himself for Ben's death, then what's driving him? What keeps him getting back up every time? What made him put on the suit in the first place?

Tom's Peter once said, "When you can do the things that I can, but you don't, and then the bad things happen, they happen because of you." I always assumed the "bad thing" was Ben's death and that Peter was carrying that guilt around. But if that's not the case then what was he talking about?

As for Aunt May saying, "With great power comes great responsibility," I've been convincing myself that Ben said it first and May was quoting his last words. Like she's telling Peter, "Don't let my death make you become something you're not. Don't let it change you. Don't become the bad guy. Remember what Ben said."

I might be completely delulu, and this is probably just me coping.

Spider-Man is there, but he isn't wearing his mask.

This isn't the first time Spider-Man has appeared in Stephen's sight, but every time Stephen tries to look at him directly, he disappears.

Illusions of Spider-Man keep appearing, and Stephen doesn't know why. Sometimes he's only in the corner of his eye. Sometimes he appears directly in front of Stephen, his back turned.

There is only one common thread between each instance: Spider-Man is always unmasked, and his face is always distorted.

Stephen can't even sleep at night without seeing a mirage of Spider-Man lingering in the shadows of his room.

No matter how hard Stephen searches for answers, he can't find one.

Huh.

Thats a silly thought.

I don't know why, but like how Killian is a pirate, Emma is a cowboy; she just belongs in the wild west.

And I don't hate it, I think she fits quite well as a cowboy.

If the first curse never happened, but Emma still got separated from her parents, I feel like she would end up in the Wild West as a cowboy.

Maybe its because shes the Sheriff of Storybrooke?

Earlier that evening, the groups had gotten tipsy and started a bar fight, which was the last thing Emma wanted to deal with after a long day.

They had been begging and trying to bribe her to let them out. She had been somewhat tempted when someone offered her some rum, but she hadn't caved.

Finally, tired and exasperated, Emma announced, "Alright, it's midnight, and I can't be bothered to deal with you guys, so I have called your daddies to come pick you up."

"Our daddies?" One of the Merry Men asked.

Just then, two men walked into the station, "You alright, luv? What made you call at such an hour?" Killian asked, Robin Hood, following behind.

"Your brat kids started a bar fight, and I don't want to do the paperwork. So you two can discipline them." Emma said, throwing a set of keys to Robin as she walked out, "I'm going home to sleep. Those are the keys for the cells. Don't forget to lock the station when you leave."

Both Killian and Robin were a bit confused, but when they turned to the holding cells and saw both their crews inside, a disappointed and annoyed look graced both their faces.

She never wanted it to become a thing it's just a bad habit she got and the stress of her life (pre Storybrooke) kept it going. It's not something she is proud of.

However after coming to Storybrooke, the habit stuck around, but she smoked a lot less not because she managed to quit, she still smokes like a chimney but she just didn't want it to be a bad influence on Henry, so she just does a good job of hiding it and after the first curse broke Emma just didn't want to deal with the disappointed parent talk from Snow and David.

During the 'missing year' (in season 3) Emma did manage to quit, life was calm and good, until she got her memories back and was thrown head first into the madness of Storybrooke, she started smoking again.

Henry, Snow and David still don't know about it, Killian does though because what doesn't that man know about her.

And there is only one person who knows she does this. His name is Killian.

Only Killian knows that in her office at the station there is a locked draw filled with all sorts of sweets and sugar filled food and drinks. Emma has one hell of a sweet tooth.

Emma absoloutly still watches cartoons and she does it unironically too. Henry thinks she watches to humour or just to spend time with him he doesn't know that she actually loves them.

It's obviusly due to the walls she has around her that next to no one knows about these little habits and if she had her way Killian probably wouldn't know either. He only found out when he came to get her from work one day and caught her with her hand in the cookie jar so to speak.

He only found out about her watching cartoons when they started living together and he came down stairs in the morning to see her watching cartoons while eating breakfast.

Killian doesn't really understand why she does these things, they have had a few petty little arguments over her eating to much sugar to be considered health, but the little twinkle she gets in her eye makes him instantly soften.

So when he is out being Peter Parker he could just hide his arms.

However for every super-powered person there needs to be a drawback or weakness.

So the drawback in this case is that it gets harder and more uncomfortable the longer he keeps his arms retracted.

The best comparison I can think of is it’s like holding your breath, it’s starts out easy but the longer you do it for the more difficult it gets.

So Peter could spend say 3 hours in public with his arms hidden but as soon as he gets home/in private he lets his arms out of hiding.

It was pouring with rain. Peter’s mask was off for the what felt like the first time in forever, in more ways than one.

“I’m not naive like you think. I know I will die in this suit. And I won’t be in the golden years in my old age. No, I will be murdered in this suit.” A bitter smile formed on Peter’s tired face. “Y’know every time I put on the mask it feels like… me accepting that this could be the day that I die… I want to quit. I’ve wanted to get rid of the suit, the mask… and the spider, for such a long time.”

For a moment there was mostly silence, the sound of the rain was all that could be heard.

“So why don’t you?” Logan’s gravelly voice asked.

“Once a kid was trapped in a car that was about to fall into the water. I saved that kid and the look on the father’s face made any risk worth it. Seeing the people of New York getting to live normal happy safe lives makes any risk I take worthwhile. With great power comes great responsibility, after all.”

“Can’t tell if those words are spoken by a great man or a stupid one.”

They just sat in silence after that. Letting the sound of the rain take over.

And after a few minutes, Peter put his mask back on, “I’m crazy tired Wolverine. I think I have been for a long time,” Spider-Man sighed, “But those bad guys are still out there. Waiting”

Logan felt pity for the man beside him. It was probably that same pity that caused him to say the words that even shocked himself, “Worry about that tomorrow, I’ll keep a look out tonight. I will watch over the borough.”

“Okay,” Spidey said though it was mostly consumed by a yawn, “Don’t let me sleep too long though. Promise to wake me up in 15 minutes.”

I mean look at this

He can just do that. His head is turned to look behind him. The spider bite definitely gave him the ability and because of this I am convinced that Peter could make a contortionist look stiff. Man’s out here looking like a rubber band.

A few days ago I saw a post (I think it was on Reddit but I’m not too sure) about actually seeing hero’s working out and training and I think the idea of Peter doing aerial yoga in order to keep fit is fun.

Instead of the silks that you seen most people use Peter would use his webs.

1. Sewing/crochet/embroidery.

I just feel like a hobby that involves a sort of needle and thread would fit with his spider brain, like how spiders weave a web.

1. Art

I HATE the Tom Holland-fication of Spider-Man in the fandom. I have nothing against Tom and think he has been and will continue to be a great Spider-Man.

But I just need to do a mini rant on how hard it is to find fan-media of Spider-Man without him being treated like a toddler who can barely tie his shoe laces.

I was randomly scrolling YouTube today and I saw a video that was titled something along the lines of ‘Will Frank Castle mentor Spider-Man?’ And if you actually think Frank would mentor Peter you don’t know anything about how these two actually interact with each other. If there is any sort of chemistry between the two it’s because the actors are friends and Not because Frank would actually like Peter. (This is kinda what sparked this post)

Not every hero or vigilante or whatever, who interacts with Peter Parker needs to be some sort of family or mentor figure. They can just be people.

I think the Daredevil and Spider-Man relationship is a good example. Peter and Matt in the comics have an equal relationship, they don’t view one being more experienced or stronger than the other, they are equal to each other, on the same level. However if they ever do have a Spider-Man Daredevil crossover on screen my biggest fear is that Daredevil will take the lead and Spider-Man will just have to follow.

There is nothing wrong with a mentor-mentee, older sibling-younger sibling or parent-child dynamics but in order to have them there needs to be a certain amount of looking down on the other person. Again not in a bad way more of a ‘You are weaker and less experienced than me but that’s okay I will take you under my wing and show you the ropes’ way. And that (in my opinion) is not Spider-Man and Daredevil’s relationship at all.

And I think the reason behind this is because Tom’ Spidey doesn’t have anything of his own (yet). Homecoming? Peter had to handle a villain that should really have been more Tony Starks problem. Far From Home? Another Tony Stark villain Peter had to deal with. No Way Home? There wasn’t really a villain in that one but still there was no villain there for Spider-Man specifically.

My point is that if you subbed in a different hero the movies wouldn’t change that much.

Homecoming. A different hero could have come in a stopped the Vulture. Far From Home? That one kinda hit the mark a bit better however those glasses could have been assigned to any hero and again not much would change. No Way Home? Any hero could have asked Strange for a spell, even Loki and Wanda were messing with the multiverse they could have been the one to cause it to break.

It does feel like now they are trying to do a soft reset on the movies what with Peter being forgotten by the everyone and I hope in the newer movies it feels more like Spider-Man can’t be replaced with another hero that it is his movie and the hero’s couldn’t save the day without Spider-Man.

Tom’s Spidey doesn’t stand alone on his own feet without someone there to guide him. Stark tech, SHEILD tech and Strange’s magic. We have never seen him do something with nothing but his own bare hands. He always has someone to help him.

And this is the reason I think a lot of the fandom babys him. And the MCU is where most Marvel fan are these days, which isn’t a problem if you just enjoy the movies and not the comics that’s fine, no judgement here, I just think that the makers of the movies need to do a better job.

Spider-Man is a solo vigilante. He has been on teams before but he works best alone and in every on screen instalment having need someone to hold his hand kinda takes away from his character a bit.

BTW I put vigilante because that’s what he is. A vigilante is someone who works independently for any sort of legal authority, like the police or even SHEILD. Spider-Man does do heroic things but he is a vigilante.

My point is it’s so hard to find fan media of Spider-Man where he isn’t treated like a toddler and the movies are to blame. Him being silly is not the same as him being babied. Peter could be a 40 year old man and still be this silly guy who is probably on the spectrum, I’m just saying that Spider-Man is a strong independent person who doesn’t need to follow someone around like a duckling following it mama duck.

Felicia Hardy and… well she still didn’t know who Spider-Man was under his mask, but that didn’t stop her from at least trying to get him to confess his identity to her. Can’t blame a girl for trying.

Right now they were together on the roof top of some random building in Queens. Doing their usual dance, Cat flirting and Spider trying to resist.

She enjoyed their dance it was one of her favourites however she was growing a bit tired. They had known each other for around a year now and nothing had happened. Not a kiss. Not a confession. Not even a one night stand.

“Come on Spider, when will you just give in and admit you want me?” Felicia purred (pun intended)

“That will never happen, sorry to disappoint” Spidey replied.

“We’ve been doing this for nearly a year and I’m staring to get a bit bored, I like you Spider but a girls gotta eat” Felicia said as she sauntered towards him.

Spider-Man took a breath that came out as a gentle sigh. Felicia now had herself pressed against his chest, one arm wrapped around his neck, the other lightly tracing the spider emblem on his chest.

“I think we really could have something special” Spider-Man began, Felicia looked up at him with a small glimmer of hope in her eyes, “your beautiful, your fun, your exciting and I do really like you” Felicia could feel the dread starting to brew inside her “but it can’t ever happen, I won’t let it”

And there is was the words Felicia didn’t want to her, “Can you at least tell me why?” She asked trying not to let the hurt appear in her voice.

Spider-Man took another breath before gently wrapping his arms around her, “Everyone who… I love, who got close to me… they are all gone. Dead.” He’s trying to keep his voice steady, “I lost everyone. I can’t loose you too”

“Oh, Spider, I can handle myself”

“I know you can, but… you don’t deserve to be with me, someone who will be constantly paranoid of threats that may or may not be there, constantly looking over our shoulders, who will never fully be in the moment with you and… Spider-Man will always have to co first, I might have to leave you at random moments because the villain of the week decides to make themselves known.”

As softly as he could, he placed a small kiss to the top of her head through his mask.

“Being with me is far to cruel a fate, Felicia”

With tear filled eyes Felicia rested her head under his chin, now rapping both her arms around him. Holding on tight.

This may well be all they can be. Two masks dancing around each other. But at least for tonight they can just hold onto the dream.

“In another life, Spider?”

And while they are good characters and I would it would be great to see them take a sort of main role in the film, I my heart yearns for the angst.

I hope Peter doesn’t make friends with them again.

I want to see him as Spider-Man on a rooftop watching as Ned and MJ walk down the street together. His heart wants to go down there and tell them everything, to walk beside them again. But his head tells him that the consequences are to great, if Peter does reintegrate himself into their lives he risks getting them killed. Just like May and Ben. (I don’t think Peter is to blame for May and Ben’s death. But Peter definitely blames himself).

I want to only person to really be in Peter’s life to be Frank Castle. Not as a friend or big brother or father figure. But just as the Punisher. A fellow vigilante. The only person Peter has in his life is what is essentially a work colleague how he hates and who hates him back, just to really emphasise just how alone he is and feels.

I want Peter to be making a conscious effort to keep everyone at arms length through fear of loosing more people he comes to love.