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Would y’all fry me if I argued that pre-canon Jax and Ragatha should have ended in some big messy argument rather than the promise thing? Their dynamic was always characterized with tension and arguments. Ragatha was always the type to fight with Jax. My girl has bite in her. She would not hold that “Never speak of Ribbit again” shit down, especially that long if things were already getting shitty with Jax. I’m not saying it’s super OOC but it doesn’t really make sense and it could have been executed better.

Ragatha being from an abusive home and developing coping mechanisms that hurt her relationships and friendships more than they help. doing everything she can be to be nice and friendly and helpful and still being unwanted. being afraid to even stand up for herself because she doesn't want to be unwanted or unkind. being shunned by her friends, simply because she was "too nice"

Gangle being sexually harassed and abused by someone who said they're her friend. someone who she can never truly escape, especially when they have the key to her room. they force her to do anything because they've invaded her privacy multiple times and gathered blackmail against her. being forced to be around them for eternity and watch as her friends all forgive them but knowing that she might never

and then you watch your abuser go through what is obviously a lot of struggles too and then kill themselves and you don't know what to think. do you feel sympathy because they were a person too? or do you feel relieved because at least now you don't have to deal with their abuse? do you feel guilty because maybe you could've prevented it? and you know you can never bring these feelings up around anyone else because they don't know. they don't know what your abuser put you through. saying any of this would make you look like a horrible person because of course your abuser shouldn't have killed themselves.

and yes, this comes from my own feelings about processing my own abuse and things about my abuser. my abuser was hospitalized and almost died during my abuse and i felt nothing. in fact, i wished for him to die. i prayed. i wasn't even religious and im still not and i prayed. but i could never admit that. not to anyone. never. no one will understand.

The reach tadc has is insane. This song is largely known for the version covered by jobby and recontextualized to honor an adult misogynistic queerphobic character. You should be disgusted. This should should be your wake up call. If you still give glitch and goose the benefit of the doubt, you're either in denial or you're okay with giving this song's legacy to racist pedophiles.

I’m not “media illiterate” for wanting the lore that was introduced to be actually developed, regardless of the fact that the show is “character-based.”

I’m not “media illiterate” for wanting more than ONE character of the cast to be focused on.

Marginalized identity is not a shield against accountability. She is still a white person, and being queer does not exempt anyone from perpetuating anti-black racism. This situation alone shows a desperate need for a BASIC understanding of intersectionality.

Being a woman does not erase her white privilege. Being a trans woman does not exempt her from anti-black behavior. Neither is calling those things out misogynist or transphobic.

And even if she weren't white, like the friends she was laughing with, identity defenses still fail: being a POC person doesn't erase anti-blackness when you are not a Black person. Non-black POC people can, and absolutely do, perpetuate anti-black racism.

P.S.

Now that we have heard gangle is revealed be Indian (or black, mixed reporting).. lots of questions as to why exactly your (you, Gooseworx) self insert, Jax, is so comfortable humiliating and harming gangle who is found out to be that in your canon...

Feels like another Vox and Rosie thing with Alastor situation that Viziepop suspiciously of her only black ace character.

The best you can do is "he learns that people will help you even at your worst", but not only is that kind of a weird lesson to give to an abuser of all people, it also means fucking nothing! Because he STILL insults Pomni in his last moments! He never thanks her for anything she's done!

And other than that, what else does he learn?

He learns that he can physically assault people with little to no pushback. He learns that he can harass and traumatize people and no one will get on his ass for it for more than two seconds.

He learns that no matter what he does, people will bend over backwards to keep him stable, even at their own expense.

And, again, what a terrible fucking lesson to give to someone with almost no redeeming qualities, someone who's basically done nothing but hurt people for years.

But I honestly feel a bit stunned that people are fine with the hints of the transness being subtle when the hints that are subtle could genuinely be easily mistaken or brushed off not as transness. Hell, I'm a trans dude and I honestly buy many headcanons of characters being trans and I actively headcanon a few of my favs the same way, but when I watched the finale, everything that indicated to Jax being a trans woman could easily be mistaken for the likes of mere toxic masculinity, Ribbit just being a good friend and comforting Jax or even misinterpreting it as Jax being a trans man if anything. For the longest time, a great portion of the TADC fanbase thought the trans coding that was there was indicating to trans man Jax and that only changed by the time we got around to episode 8

As a comment under the OG post put it, we already have pieces of transgender media and characters that are much more explicitly trans without nessecarily having the character say straight to the screen "Hey I'm trans".

Even Undertale and Deltarune are much more explicit with their transgender characters, and nobody explicitly turns to the screen and says they are transgender. Toby Fox didn't need to say that these characters are trans, but by god, he put a lot of work into making it known that they are trans and that it shouldn't be mistaken for ANYTHING ELSE when it came to that. Mettaton and his quest for a body he always wanted, Mad Mew Mew integrating into a body she never expected, Napstablook being content with not being in a corporeal form, Kris being explicitly never stated as feminine or masculine but things go awry when you try and force Kris into a more typically gendered role in the weird route, Frisk being a seperate entity from Chara and the player and still being explicitly referred to as 'them', Chara being their own entity and never put into any box, the lion in Undertale who's a fan of Mettaton and wants to wear Mettaton's dress and enjoys it, and in Deltarune we see that same lion and she's now a lioness and working in a diner.

THEY RUINED HIM

I really like how Jax exists as a severely repressed (different from closeted) trans person, and how that will make you toxic. I especially like that it happens in the presence of a trans/enby person whose pronouns are 100% respected. Internalized transphobia can stop you from realizing you're in a safe space.

I just wish that it was a clearer cautionary tale about the dangers of repression. I wouldn't be surprised if many people finish the show without realising jax is a repressed trans woman. Let's face it, most cis people know jack about trans experiences.