i feel like the fight scene between angel and spike in ats season 5 episode 8 isn’t talked about enough. specifically this dialogue:
SPIKE: Come on, hero. Tell me more. And I'll tell you why you can't stand the bloody sight of me.
Cause every time you look at me... you see all the dirty little things I've done, all the lives I've taken... because of you! Drusilla sired me, but you… you made me a monster!
ANGEL: I didn't make you, Spike. I just opened up the door and let the real you out.
SPIKE: You never knew the real me. Too busy trying to see your own reflection... praying there was someone as disgusting as you in the world, so you could stand to live with yourself. Take a long look, hero. I'm nothing like you
its soooo good. i’ll tell you why you can’t stand the sight of me??? all the lives i’ve taken because of you??? you made me a monster??? i wish the other characters in both shows knew more of the darla/angel/dru/spike lore and we got to see them deconstruct their preconceived ideas of william the bloody and angelus in real time. i wish they’d shown more lore in general. i assume the scoobies might have asked sometime, but spike would for sure lie to look cooler than he was. the fact that angel was the reason spike became a vampire. everything evil soulless spike did only ever happened because angel sired drusilla. not to mention the weird hazing/teaching spike his ways. the audacity of angel with a soul to say he only let the real william out, as if he ever knew anything about william pre being turned?? oh my god. you never knew the real me, too busy trying to see your own reflection??? bar after bar. if i was angel id have staked myself right there and then. not only does spike win the fight, he reads him to filth. insane. peak dialogue. i wish we got more of this from them
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