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"he was in darkness"

"he's self destructive"

"he doesn't know their value"

"naruto didn't give up on him when everyone else did"

And I think it's so obvious they don't think about it for more than few seconds. Naruto would look even more pathetic to the audience. Because now he's doing all of that for a girl. Which would make people call him a simp.

I really fail to see how "Sasuke I'll break every bone you have and drag you back to village" translates to obvious romance.

Sasuke being a girl would only make Naruto's creepy obsession with him actually seem creepy to audience. It would be what it is, objectification. Naruto only cared that Sasuke is beside him because that made his perfect dream come true. His rival is next to him, they are now bff's and Sasuke is working for genocidal village.

If Sasuke was a girl, SNS would get as much hate as SS. With both so many men and women believing men can't be victims of anything. We come to a point where we need to gender bend male character to female so people could see how fucked up his life and relationships were.

sasuke’s plot is designed for a male character.

and if we must imagine a “what if” scenario here, then naruto should be the one imagined differently not sasuke. why even the fans love this relationship when it's not deep not complex as they claim it to be? it's toxic, and serves sasuke no purpose as it's just another 'cheerleader' naruto

the fandom’s constant obsession with changing sasuke’s sex and sexuality is disgusting, utterly dehumanizing, and rooted in misandry, and overall a sasuke hate. we know what they’re doing. we know it’s not for the sake of plot or storytelling. it’s all for the sexual content and undertones they care about. cut us some slack. at the end of the day, they only care about porn. (proof? check reddit, check thier fanfics. wher ethey portray sauske in as the lesser always, they'll deny it and call you a homophobe over it)

I wish the Sasuke fandom would see through this, through the fandom (men) bullshit , but they fall for this everytimr so easily and miserably fail to realize that much of it is just anti-Sasuke, bash-Sasuke content, the same kind of emasculation content, like the “sasugay” stuff. it's the same shit but recycled to fit more into current 'progressive' content.

I'm so disappointed, disgusted, and find it dehuminzing, the way the fandom treat sasuke. I know he's fictional. But the sexual, rather derogatory content that was disguised under 'shipping' and 'story telling' and now it straightforward just insults, is toxic and make me as fan withdraw. And the fact that they call you a homophone or trans phobe over this...

tiktok and such are the prime example of this garbage

and a large portion of the fandom wants sasuke to be gay is mostly self-projection and self-insert. he’s handsome so they reshape him to fit their own ideals. it’s also a way to humanize him and make him more "likable" because without that layer, they don’t actually like him for who he is. that’s why their takes on him are so off, if he weren’t attractive, they wouldn’t care , he'll be hated but excluding the derogatory sexual memes/slander

”they’re all dead?”

Its funny how its not only SS stans who use purposefully wrong translations to proof something that isn't there but also these sns retards

Real translation:

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The “gossip” tone makes it sound like Sasuke’s main contacts in Konoha are strained or unwanted, which only reinforces that distance from both Naruto and Sakura. It almost highlights that his real connections lie elsewhere.

It is kind of funny, because it unintentionally comes off as a critique of both Naruto and Sakura. Sasuke avoids Sakura completely, and at the same time he’s shown as having tense, almost fight-ready encounters with Naruto — it paints a picture of him not really wanting anything to do with either of them.

I wonder where and with whom else he is in contact... I guess I already know.

If we look at it, the wording plus the context from Chapter 699 and Gaiden makes it feel that way.

○ With Sakura – He doesn’t visit her, doesn’t send letters, and even in Gaiden he only meets her indirectly through Sarada. The fact that the text here doesn’t mention her at all speaks volumes.

○ With Naruto – He does meet him, but the description frames it as tense, with an undercurrent of conflict (“on the verge of clashing”).

So the image it paints is: Sasuke’s closest Konoha relationships are either avoided (Sakura) or strained (Naruto). And yeah… that definitely gives off the “he doesn’t want to deal with them” vibe.