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Smg4 is canonically bisexual but its kind of clear that he prefers women. He's also properly in the closet.

Smg3 is pansexual but most fans just shove him into the gay category to make sure he never dates anybody else except for smg4.

Meggy, Melody, and Karen are all straight.

Mario is not Aroace and people who think he is, are just trying to make a excuse not to ship him with anybody. If you watch a single or maybe a few episodes. Mario's clearly trying to always fuck smg4 in the ass.

Meggy is not a minor anymore.

Smg4 age is connected to Luke's age later in the story. But not in the classic era when mario was trying to bang smg4.

Mario and Meggy are not siblings. The live stream wasn't scripted, and it's never mentioned again in cannon [in the episodes].

Also the ship is fine. The only reason why people hate it, is because of the old shippers having bad or cringy art. They also are so over sexualize the ship.

AND medi ships it. He was a worker for the show. If the ship was truly incest he would've been fired , as it's actually a serious fucking thing. If the ship gets even an ounce of fan service. Fans go crazy and get upset. But they never bat a eye when smg34 gets fan service.

Snow trap is overrated. It's one singular episode that gets bringed up. And honestly it's very clear smg4 and smg3 are uncomfortable with what happened. Mostly smg4.

Shipping in the famdom is too crazy.

Smg34 and gunshow are overrated. People push it on to other.

Mr. Puzzles and Wpnz are also overrated. I do love their characters. But it's honestly the only reason why most new fans join or stayed. And honestly it's kind of gay bait.

Smg4 the show shouldn't be taken seriously and it's written poorly. Character's constantly change or never change.

The mario recolors are forgotten and some of them are bad people now.

The older fans of smg4 are in their 40s and often over sexualize the women in the show.

Most ships in smg4 are dark/pro ships. And when I mean that is that nearly every single ship is abusive as everybody kinda abused each other. People also don't know what dark or pro shipping really is. Most people think it's incest or pedophile. In reality , it is just complicated shipping or that every ship is alright. People just focus on the bad shit more often.

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