JayDick enthusiast

They'll scream loudly about how mastectomy is mutilation and how minors are being mutilated and how they're actually girls, and then spam you with fresh surgery scars they all have saved on their hard drive

If they truly thought those were underage girls, why would they share uncensored topless photos of them?

I've asked that question and was met with silence and blocks

And don't get me started on other types of surgery

They'll also scream about porn bad and then spam you with porn

And I always asked two questions:

1. Why do you have so much porn saved?

2. Are you aware that showing me porn unsolicited is sexual harassment?

Some even apologized when I pointed out the latter lol

Anyway

Take THEIR WORD, and follow it where it logically leads

"THIS IS CSEM!!!!" "Why are you distributing CSEM?" is exactly the right approach

It shows that they don't actually believe it, they just need to feel morally superior

And you won't sway them, at most they'll block you. But an onlooker, who might be on the fence or never made up their mind, might see it and realize what antis are:

Punitive ("you're a bad person, I don't like you, you're bad; go to therapy")

Corrective ("go to therapy so you can learn to be NORMAL")

A tool for spreading ideology ("your therapist would never agree that writing fics about [kink] is normal")

Not allowed flexibility on point 2 even for patient comfort ("if your therapist says your kinks ARE normal, you need a new one, because they are a bad therapist")

Devoid of patient care standards ("I want to be a therapist so I can fix the proship freaks [unspoken: not out of desire to help people and make their lives better. Solely so that I can be more comfortable and not see fic I don't like]")

Something only a 'defective' person would need, and that fixes all 'defects' ("you write icky fics. That's wrong. You're bad. You need therapy")

Has a standardized goal, determined by antis of course, instead of trying to help patients to navigate life ("if you were really in therapy, you wouldn't think it was okay to write about fictional characters being raped")

Not healthcare ("I, a layperson, am qualified to speak about how therapists should operate, a statement I would not make about medicine")

Yet also, healthcare, but only accessed by 'those icky people' ("you're insane, freak, only a delusional schizo would think this was okay")

For the comfort of others instead of for the patient themself ("you should go to therapy so you stop making works that make me comfortable; I don't care if it improves your life in any measurable way")

So, basically... Jason should be emotionally fulfilled and connected with Dick in place of a love interest?

When I was a kid I had like zero internet supervision and I would read the craziest Hetalia doujinshi. There was shit like incest, shota, bestality, noncon, you name it. And all of it was "romanticized" too and presented as something super hot and sexy.

Even though I was a kid/young teen it never even occured to me to do those things IRL.

But you know what I did almost replicate in real life after seeing it in fiction?

Running away from home to go live in the woods after reading My Side of the Mountain from the schools library. I also watched Matilda and then tried to use telekinesis lmao.

But one time my friend and I were playing on a playground and a group of older teens came up to us and asked us if we wanted to go somewhere with them.

And yet, despite reading all of the badwrong, problematic doujinshi, I was still really uncomfortable and didn't want to go with them. My friend basically told them to fuck off and we went right back to her moms house and told her what happened.

It's almost like it's not about what someone reads, but what they're taught. I knew not to hurt people and I knew not to go anywhere with strangers that I didn't know.

But my parents never sat me down for the "Don't run away to live in the woods and telekinesis isn't real" talk.

So maybe if antis are actually concerned about kids doing things in real life after reading about it, they should be fighting for more education in schools regarding consent, stranger danger, and safety.

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You don't even need to say anything, it speaks for itself. These people have the GALL to be on this fucking high horse because they attack real people, they attack CHILDREN and still somehow feel like they're doing good. I hope all these people get their internet access taken away. I hope they get to tell this shit to their real therapist just to watch them look at them like their head is on fire.

If you are like this, you are evil. Full stop. There is no justification for this that makes it okay. YOU ARE EVIL.

Pro-shippers don’t even have to ship incest, abuse, or underage stuff. Not all of them do. They simply believe it’s not okay to harass people or send death threats over fictional bullshit.

Sit your asses down because I am about to educate you and provide sources, unlike OP, who would definitely make you fall for the Pizzagate conspiracy and still believe that bullshit even today if you were 5 or 10 years older. That’s how gullible and reactionary all of you are.

(TW: mentions of rape, sexual assault, incest, CSA, suicide, pedophilia, transphobia. If you are triggered by these, I recommend to proceed with caution.)

OP here is using the same tactic TERFs do, which is using a dogwhistle. The dogwhistle here is calling people “pedophiles” without providing any source whatsoever, the difference is TERFs use it specifically regarding trans people. TERFs call trans people “pedophiles”, especially trans women, and I think you all know that. Or at least I hope so.

Also regarding the VA issue: you know what actually happened ? The VA asked to not be sent NSFW stuff of the character they VA’d. Good, that is a reasonable request, and the people who sent them NSFW stuff are asshats (common sense in fandoms, don’t fucking do that), HOWEVER (because there always has to be a “however”), much like OP over here, the VA proceeded to call people “pedophiles” including CSA survivors because they got triggered, so a lot of CSA survivors, including myself, pointed out the issue with their statement, while also debunking the law the VA mentioned in the aforementioned tweet (which is an archaic and outdated law btw, a simple Google search confirms my statement).

The fact that this imbecilic source-less post has so many notes proves the fact that none of you do the bare minimum research regarding what a pro-shipper and an anti-shipper is. OP got ratio’d on Twitter for making this same stupid claim, and their account is now locked not because of harassment, but because their attempt backfired.

Another dumb attempt and a similar post was also made in 2020. “Rainbow meats” are NBC Hannibal pro-shippers. Bryan Fuller, the creator of NBC Hannibal (who, mind you, he is both a pro-shipper and a CSA survivor), also debunked the “pro-ship means pedophile” turd buffet y’all like to feast on. Seriously, you guys are the only ones who fall for this mass manipulation bullshit because you just don’t like to do research.

Unfriendly reminder that antishippers:

Harassed a 15 year old into committing suicide over a fanfic. Mind you, this is harassment and possible even murder. This can land you in prison for a long time.

Got a disabled and recent rape survivor fired during a pandemic due to them making a lying callout post and performing targeted harassment. Mind you, this is slander, a legal offense, and this can either make them pay a huge fine plus moral compensation to the victim, or directly land them all in jail if the victim presses charges against them.

In numerous occasions they harassed, doxxed, and sent death threats to BIPOC and/or LGBT+ people, over fiction. Over fucking fictional characters and ships. A lot of the people they harassed are CSA survivors, they told them they deserve their trauma for using fiction to cope. Doxxing and harassment, again, are legal offenses.

A lot of them (TW: rape, sexual assault and incest in the link - Nafedude on Twitter for example, and many, many others) are exposed as groomers, rapists and *actual* pedophiles. I do not have to remind you that these are also legal offenses, do I ?

A lot of antis are exclusionists, meaning they don’t believe a certain marginalized group, for example asexual people, belong in the LGBT+ community. There is blatant biphobia, acephobia, homophobia towards gay men, exhibited by them. Also racism and xenophobia. Should I say that the amount of transphobia some spout is actually concerning ? YES. EXACTLY. A lot of them like to drink the radfem koolaid, just log on to Twitter and you see them saying the exact same shit those people with a red square in their display name say (which, by the way, those are TERFs, the red square emoji is their symbol). (The main reason I will not link anything here is because I do not want to perform targeted harassment, but it’s enough to go on anitwt or kpoptwt and see the amount on exclus and what they say, and compare them to what TERFs and radfems say. Seriously. It’s the same shit.) (We do not talk about MAPs, zoos or other similar people here, MAPs and zoos do not and will never belong in the LGBTQIA+ community, and I cannot believe I really have to mention this shit.)

Antis are not your friends. Remember that. Also “stop calling LGBTQIA+, BIPOC people, and CSA survivors ‘pedophiles’” is a hill I will die on.