Okay, so Iâm still seeing posts from people who are confused about the time traveling in Endgame. Iâve already made a post about this so Iâll try to summarize all the main points.
1) Going back in time doesnât change your own present day. All it does is create a new timeline, which is pretty much an alternate universe. Think of the new timeline as a branch from the main timeline, with the starting point being the moment when the time travelers arrive. The events of the past movies canât be altered in any way.
2) When Ancient One says theyâll be dooming her new reality by taking away the Infinity Stones, she means that the Avengers could potentially be crippling the alternate universes they are creating with their travels. Think about it, without the Time Gem, Alternate 2012 Doctor Strange wonât be able to defeat Dormammu. Thatâs why the Avengers have to return the gems by the end of the movie.
3) That said, they didnât erase the new timelines they made. Erasing the alternate universes would mean the Avengers would have to erase all the trips back to the past (erasing the starting point). Which we already know they canât do since they canât undo their past actions. What theyâre actually doing is making sure they arenât dooming any of those alternate universes to an apocalyptic future. Go back to the Doctor Strange example, by returning the Time Gem to Alternate 2012, the Avengers made sure Alternate 2012 Doctor Strange can defeat his universeâs version of Dormammu.
4) MCU Nebula is able to shoot and kill Alternate 2014 Nebula since by that point, Alt Nebula became her own person. She exists on a separate timeline / universe. Using Arrowverse terms, think of Alt Nebula as her doppelgänger.
5) The Avengers are able to return to their own timeline due to the Ant-Man GPS, which is set to the moment they leave to the past. Like Scott says, itâs a âround tripâ.
6) Steve Rogers did not live in the MCU past. The Russos have already confirmed that Steve created an alternate 1946, in which he settles down with Peggy and presumably destroys HYDRA before they grow inside SHIELD. After growing old, he uses the Ant-Man GPS and jumps back to the MCU timeline to give the shield to Sam. Agent Carter is still canon, Steve settled down with Alt 1946 Peggy. That being said, the exact point where Steve jumped back to the main timeline is unclear.
7) Going back to point four, thatâs why Thanos of 2014 is able to arrive in 2023. Thanos of 2014 is now his own person due to the actions of the Avengers. The only time we see main, MCU Thanos was the opening scene. Think of it like this; there are two versions of Thanos we see in the movie and theyâre from two different universes.
8) Yes, this does mean that the Gamora we now have is a doppelgänger of the main timeline Gamora. Itâs pretty much the same character but without any of the character development from the Guardians movies and Infinity War. Itâs not âourâ Gamora but âaâ Gamora. Unfortunately, unless Soul World can be opened, main universe Gamora is still dead (maybe this is where Adam Warlock comes in?)
9) Main universe Gamora was sacrificed for main universe Soul Gem. Main universe Black Widow sacrificed herself for Alternate 2014 universe Soul Gem. Two different universes, two different Soul Gems.
10) The Avengers created five alternate universes as a result of their travels (2012, 2013, 2014, 1970, 1946). Alt 2014 might actually be peaceful since they lost their Thanos. EDIT: correction, thereâs six alternate universes. Clintâs test run, when he called for Lila and she went downstairs.
11) If the idea of alternate universes and timelines is confusing, I recommend reading up on multiverse and how Marvel (and DC) incorporate it into their writing. Doctor Strange already mentioned the multiverse, Endgame is where we start to get into the concept.
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