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Second Huevember,,, and Iâm still in Quinnâs brainrot. I really love the idea of a grumpy witch as Quinn slowly falling in love with a peppy witch like Sylvia. Lyrics are from the beautiful song âCornflower Blueâ by Flowerface.Â
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I feel like the owl house fandom takes things way too srsly esp with ships and preferences on characters. idk I love hunter and amity's backstory and I love luz but I'm more interested in hunter and amity's backstory that doesn't make me racist their storylines are more interesting
So this probably won't be what you expected or asked for but I'm grabbing the opportunity anyway to address some of the ways I think TOH falters from a Storytelling perspective and why I think those issues (as well as how young a lot of the fans are, although when I was 11-13 in fandom I was much more chill and "live and let live" so just shows what a decade can do in terms of fan community) unintentionally perpetuate some of what you mention.
Also don't think you're racist for preferring Amity and Hunter (Hunter, Gus, and Luz are my faves) but I do think TOH has some issues with how it handles its characters of colour, so I am going to touch on that. While I'm white. this is reflected on / verbatim from conversations I've had with Black and Asian friends / fans of the show and how racial stuff can tend to play out in fandom (circa 2013 onwards from personal experience of how people have treated fave characters, like Finn from Star Wars, in the past).
That said, I do still like the show. I love the strong found family, everything surrounding Eda and her allegories for mental health are super solid and important, I'm thrilled by the queer rep (Iâm queer & watched Korrasami happen live), and I don't think a show has to be perfect or to check off my personal preference to be good. But I do think the show is... an interesting mixed bag for a few key reasons I haven't seen anyone talk about, so here they are.
Under a read more bc this gets long, like, real long, even though thereâs only four things on this freaking list, LMAO. For whoever reads it, have fun!
1. The Owl House writes like first impressions don't matter.
This is one of the biggest things in the show that breaks elements of setup + payoff. After all, if your setup is misleading or unaddressed by payoff later, characters and plot lines may come across as stilted. This also ties into other areas (such as screentime) that I'll touch on later.
By far the character who has broken setup the most, though, is Amity. For example, Amity is introduced as someone who has bullied Willow for years, even when no one else is around (i.e. it's not a pure performance), and even though they used to be friends when they were young. Their friendship fall out / Amity distancing herself from Willow is explained by Amity being forced to by her parents, and understandably struggling with how to deal with and explain it as a child.
I haven't seen the last few episodes of S2 (aka I got up to "Hollow Mind") and I was disappointed in S2A when it seemed like this plot element would never be addressed again. So I was very pleased to learn that there is an episode in S2B that talks about their friendship. Except... it doesn't address the bullying. Because yes, Amity tried to protect Willow by distancing herself... but Amity also didnât need to Bully Willow, like, at all. Not within the confines of the story and not within the landscape of the character; her parents didnât tell her to be cruel to Willow. She chose to do that. Repeatedly. And that facet of their bond... has never been adequately addressed. It could be, in the future (but I personally doubt it).Â
Itâs particularly strange, because Luz was 1) canonically bullied in the human realm and 2) perpetually struggled at making friends. It makes sense that sheâd be extra against bullies and protective over the friends she does have, and wanting to see real change before bonding with a practical stranger (even if Amity did show a slightly nicer side at the end of âCovention,â it wasnât an even ratio whatsoever, either of her niceness or Luzâs meanness). But weâll circle back to this.Â
We see this issue of initially bad behaviour being overruled, sometimes retconned, or ignored to the point of being rewritten a few more times in the series.Â
The one that ties into Amityâs character are her siblings. In their debut episode, they have plans to share private pages of their little sisterâs diary. This is mentioned in another episode as something theyâre trying to make up for, but they werenât there when shit hit the fan at the library, anyway. So we never see 1) why they were going to be so cruel to Amity in the first place (and I have siblings myself, so no, itâs not a sibling thing, or just a sibling thing), 2) what exactly made them change their mind, and 3) this type of behaviour never reappears or is addressed in the show, either. While Luz gets called a bully for it, the twins get off basically scot free. Yes, theyâre obviously affected by their mother, too, but thereâs never even a whiff or a hint about why they felt the need to humiliate Amity on a public scale besides thinking she was uptight.Â
We see this one more time with Darius, which was the most baffling and completely jarred me the first time I watched it. Darius was being cruel and dismissive to Hunter, but warms up when he realizes the kid does have a spine and will stand up for what he believes this. This is not the heart warming moment or message the show seems to think it is. All I heard and saw was an adult going âOh, this kid is too indoctrinated and abused to be worthwhile until he proves otherwise, Iâll treat him like trash and ignore that Iâm exacerbating his symptoms of abuse until then.â And no matter what comes latter, this is a downright weird set up, emotionally.Â
Iâm not saying that none of these characters can be set up this way, but the introduction and how different they are in all other preceding episodes â or even when information is given to re-contextualize certain things â feels like whiplash. So the setup is a little weird, making pay off either non existent or unnecessary. This stumbling block makes the emotional continuity feel disjointed too, in some aspects. The way this affects emotional continuity can best be seen in Gus, Willow, and Luzâs friendship â but again, more that later.
As for set up and pay off, it can lead to missed opportunities, namely: why the hell was Amity Lilithâs protege in Convention? Again, not saying the show is bad or this is a bad writing choice, but itâs a weird one. I remember watching that episode, seeing Amity be introduced as Lilithâs pseudo apprentice, and being excited. It meant Lilith-Eda, Luz-Amity, and possibly the two menor-mentee relationships could all be developed simultaneously! Itâd be interesting to see the parallels and differences.
At the very least, it would give a personal stake to Amity and Luzâs possible developing bond, with Lilith at the very least going to disapprove, and give Amity and Luz a chance to compete against each other and to see that progression.
Then it was never addressed again. And it wasnât set up as a âone day thingâ either. It seems that Lilith possibly tutored Amity for months, maybe even years, for Amity to be considered her âstrongest protegeâ (exact line). So we miss out on that possible, episodic but still connected plot line (especially because after Convention, we never see Amity caring a whole lot about actual school, even though that as her whole thing in her intro and second episode). Then, even when Amity and Lilith are back on the same side (imagine how interesting exploring that fracturing couldâve been!) they... never interact, never mention, and never act like they know each other.
Theyâre two characters with the same theme and similar arcs split down the middle, have an interesting setup, and it goes.... Nowhere.
Because first impressions donât matter in the show, which is particularly weird, as typically 1) what you set up in the very beginning of the show is what you want the audience to be invested in, and 2) the audience is going to / has to pay more attention in the beginning of a show because theyâre actively trying to learn the rules of the world and character dynamics / personalities.Â
And itâs not the only time TOH does this, so letâs talk about
2. Screentime, Race, and Chosen Diaspora
Specifically that Gus and Willow barely get any, and how this ties into race. So Iâve touched on this before in an article I wrote on Vocal where I share meta-adjacent stuff that doesnât fit my tumblr vibe, so if for some reason this is your thing, they may be other stuff you enjoy on there, whatever. Iâm not gonna repeat myself too much here, but basically:Â
The majority of the Owl House cast is white, particularly when it comes to who matters in the plot. Eda, Lilith, and their family are all white. Hooty and King exist in what weâre going to call an aracial space, as they donât have race and arenât coded as any particular thing, either; just tried and true demons. Hunter is white; Belos is white. Gus and Willow are regulated to background characters and most of the time when Willow is being developed as a character (âUnderstanding Willow,â âAny Sport in a Stormâ) itâs typically also used to further a white characterâs growth of... learning to treat her better? Gus fares a bit better, but gets less screentime.Â
So not only is Luz the only primary character of colour, sheâs largely cut off in forming meaningful relationships with other characters of colour, and having those bonds highlighted and given strong screen time (as thus far in S2, every time Gus and Willow have gotten significant screentime, itâs been largely removed from Luz, with her often doing something else with Amity). Remember when âStar Wars: Rogue Oneâ came out, and there were discussions being had of âa lone woman only having meaningful relationships with men and no other womenâ?Â
[ Side note: as for the first point, Iâm not going to say things I love, like TDP, donât fall into the âwoman surrounded by menâ trope for its two main female leads, as Rayla is friends with the boys and was raised by her dads, and Claudiaâs primary relationships are also with other men. However, I believe this is mitigated with plot lines like Ellis and Lujanne in S1, as well as Janai-Amaya-Khessa in S2 and particularly in S3, and I think this will only continue to grow moving forward into S4 and beyond ]Â
At the same time as Rogue One, there were conversations regarding the films status of âpeople of colour purely as the supporting cast but never as the primary leadâ? TOH meets in as a weird hybrid in the middle, with a person of colour as the main lead, but largely surrounded by white people â and this is the case for most characters in the show.
Raineâs main relationship is with Eda. Darius is in the rebellion with them, but his only meaningful relationship on screen in any way is really with Hunter and the past golden guards. Gus and Willow are mostly side characters. We basically never see their families/parents (and know far more about the Blights / Edric and Emira in every way. Gus and Willow ultimately donât get the time with Luz for me to call their relationship meaningful. This is especially strange, given that often times kids who are bullied (like all three of them are) cling harder to the friends they do have, and that while S1 was better about making Gus and Willow be extremely important to Luz as her First Friends Ever, S2 has dropped the ball even more so.Â
Luz is like an island, ironically on the Isles and cut off from her cultural community and from other characters of colour even when they do exist in her new community. So thatâs talk about that in full.Â
Now, there is Luz, who is the primary protagonist (honestly, you could argue Eda is her co-protagonist) and sheâs lovely and I love her. However, more than once, Luzâs plot line for an episode is a B plot or less plot relevant compared to other characters (particularly Eda). I touched on this in my Vocal article, but Luz is living in diaspora in the Boiling Isles. Yes, the demon realm suits her much better than Earth largely did, but I would still love to see elements of her culture in ways other than her / her familyâs name and her occasionally speaking Spanish. What about holidays, what about missing her motherâs cooking and the cultural connotations it holds?Â
The show does engage with aspects of the Isekkai genre that are sometimes overlooked, namely Luz being torn between two worlds (and given that sheâs mixed, itâs not like the allegory isnât already there), but it only goes halfway. It only shows Luz wanting to be in the Boiling Isles with none of the possibilities about cultural shock, assimilation, and other aspects that can play into immigrating countries â or realms. Iâm not saying the the show not engaging with Luzâs diaspora is a bad thing, but it does feel like a missed opportunity (as most of this is) particularly since they do try to engage with her on a cultural level with her speaking Spanish and writing her as purposefully Afro-Latina and from the Dominican Republic.Â
But honestly, basically everything Iâve talked about already â occasionally misleading set up w/ a lack of follow through, screentime (both considering and not considering its racial elements) â are all compounded into my biggest issue with the show, however, which are itsÂ
3. Disengaged stakes
So while I love Luz, I mostly love her for her personality and sweet hearted nature. I donât actually love her that much for how she drives the plot forward â even though she does, and even though sheâs the protagonist. And this is largely because Luz â and many of the characters â exist in a limbo of what Iâm going to call Disengaged Stakes. Basically, they have stakes, but due to a lack of set up, or pay off in regards to emotional continuity (never mind a lack of consistency, i.e. sometimes Eda needs to hide, sometimes she can be flashy in public with zero consequences, sometimes getting caught by guards matters when the story decides it needs a conflict, and sometimes it doesnât etc) itâs hard to actually be invested in those stakes. At least for me.Â
For most of S2, this meant I wasnât really invested in Luzâs efforts to get a portal to see her mom (although this improved when we actually got a singular episode with Camila). Itâs clear Luz isnât going to live full time, if at all, in going back to the human realm. I also wasnât worried for Camila, as she hasnât been fearing for Luz this whole time, instead believing things are perfectly fine if not better than they were before.Â
Let me give you an example, and this was actually pointed out in a youtube review of the S2 finale that helped me put my finger on why it... felt weird as a finale (again, even though I havenât fully watched it yet, but I have watched the bulk of it).Â
The four kids are stranded in the human realm, but what does that actually mean, for most of them? For Luz, this carries a lot of weight. Sheâs spent all season trying to find a way home to see her mother, but is now there under awful circumstances with no way back to the place she actually wants to be. It will also offer Camilla the perfect opportunity to see why the Boiling Isles and her family there is so important to Luz.
But what does this mean for the other three kids? Shockingly little. Like Iâve touched on before, we know nothing about Gus and Willowâs families. Yes, Iâm sad theyâre separated from them, but Iâm sad because generally, kids being separated from their parents is sad. Iâm not invested in their specific relationship (same issue I had with Rogue One and Jynâs relationship with her father, as well). All Luz actually wants, in her core, is to stay in the Boiling Isles. Amityâs relationship with her father is on the mend and her siblings are there for her, but Luz is still clearly the most important person in the world to her, and theyâre not separated. Hunter has absolutely nothing back for him in the Boiling Isles, largely, and heâs actually as safe as he can be from Belosâ machinations in the human realm.Â
So you have four kids tossed into the human realm, and it only really matters for one of them.Â
This is amplified in their relationships. Willow and Gus rarely have anything beyond interpersonal stakes; Amity had her mother, but now her father has turned over a new leaf, there are no interpersonal stakes any longer for her family (and she radically stood up to her mother very early on in S2 as well). She and Luz have had no problems in their relationship besides very brief miscommunication and Amityâs mother. Amity has hardly any stakes outside of Luz. The characters who are dealing with very high stakes, such as Raine, are largely shuttered away outside of the story â or Hunter.Â
Dear lord, Hunter. Which, now that weâve gotten here, letâs talk about what I think could have aided in remedying a lot of these issues
4. Merging
Now I know TOH had to jump through a lot of executive hoops (including the existence and plot relevance of Hexside particularly in S1) so I donât know what sort of orders came down, or mandates they have to follow but:
TOH has too many characters, and plenty of them could have been condensed as pairs into half as many characters.
I know this, because I went through a similar process of originally having a central group of thirteen characters, and cleaved that shit down to seven. So what are my proposed mergings?
The twins become one character. They more or less are now, fulfil the same purposes and character points as one another (flesh out Amityâs family, tease her and be a listening ear, show their motherâs control, operate as illusionists, etc). Whether itâs brother or sister doesnât really matter.
Gus and Willow become one character. I would say keep more of Willowâs backstory (w/ Amity), dads, and plant magic alight, as the merged-twin character could substitute as the group illusionist whenever need be. It means that instead of only having splintered individual episodes with Luz or for their development, the small collection would be bolstered and improved marginally. It still wouldnât fix where screentime or set up fails them, but it would be a significant start. I adore Gus, heâs one of my favourites in the whole show â but heâs less plot relevant than Willow, who is already largely not plot relevant (at least, not outside Hunterâs arc in S2) and we gotta be economical somewhere.
Economical storytelling is when a character, scene, or plot beat is doing at least three things at once, largely â and right now Gus is doing the least, as much as I love my boy, with Willow right next to him. Thus, there we go.
Now for the big, perhaps flat out unpopular one:
Hunter and Amity shouldâve been one character. Like the twins, and even Amity and Lilith, theyâre largely one theme split down the middle. The show draws intentional parallels between their world views, callousness, and need to be the best due to their abusive families, their strong relationships / connections to Luz, who works to friendship and who are changed by her kindness. There are also less thematic but still overt parallels, like their artificial wands, opposing palismans (bird vs cat), travelling into mindscapes where they uncover secrets. Hell, they both even have a reformed father figure who works with the Abominable coven with a shittier parent who believes in their own superiority at any cost.Â
Say Golden Guard Amity is enrolled in Hexside â she has to be trained somewhere â and throughout the season we hear her refer to her uncle, who raised her. He just wants the best for her, and for her to be a worthy member of the Emperorâs coven! Itâs only at the end of S1 we learn that Amityâs uncle is Belos, and that her growing bond with Luz may be tested in the future. Then, in S2, she has to make a choice between her familial loyalty, ideological defection, and Luz and her friends (who will have more time to be friends, because there are less characters running around). You can even keep the condensed twin as a surrogate sibling mentor â perhaps one of Belosâ more successful grimwalkers, or flat out not a clone at all.
This merger gives Luz and Amity real stakes in their relationship, a higher sense of drama amid the sweet fluffiness, gives more characters more screentime... And amplifies everything that already exists in Amityâs arc. Yes, seeing a quieter form of child abuse from Odalia is worthwhile, particularly for abused children â but as of S2 sheâs basically gone full bad guy and has already done so before in early S2, as her abomaton nearly kills Luz in âEscaping Expulsionâ so... moot point? Sorta? Is what Iâm saying.Â
It would also, for the love of god, give Amity a solidified reason to dye her hair after she finds out sheâs a grimwalker. She wants to reassert her own identity, she wants to be different than her successors while also honouring their good nature, etc etc. Imagine âHollow Mindâ but with Amity in Hunterâs place, and all the weight that would hold for each of them, and for Hunterâs character, now condensed into Amityâs. Also stronger parallels of Belosâ clones becoming less like his brother (because Amity is a girl) over time and with parallels of the implied plot line, of Belos killing his brother because Caleb fell in love with a witch, and itâs happening again, this time just with Luz and Amity, directly.
Basically the only things that would have to change would be a little of S1â˛s pacing, some of S2â˛s Blight parent related episodes (so largely two until the finale, which again, Darius or the condensed twin could easily substitute)oOr, to come full circle, you could have Lilith also play a factor, the way she did in Amityâs arc in the beginning. This would provide a greater sense that characters actually had lives and connections and little ship passing in the night moments before Luz showed up, and they would all feel more like!! REAL PEOPLE!!
The only thing that would possibly, likely have to go is Willowâs history with Amity.But given that the show has never really addressed the bullying, perhaps that backstory element would be better left dropped, in general. Amity can be a jerky bully without specifically bullying Luzâs friend for like, 4-6 years beforehand, yâknow.
Anyway I will never not believe in the validity of what I call TOH Merger and how it would strengthen basically almost every single aspect of the show, take it or leave it.Â
Conclusion / Nitpicks
Other notes before we wrap up.
I got bored with just how many episodes relied on the âCharacter A doesnât want to fess up to something bc theyâre insecure, scared, or trying to look Cool, but inevitably lie and make things ten times worse, and then learn itâs important to be honestâ in S1 (hi King, Luz, Willow, and Gus eps respectively).Â
Amityâs laser character focus on Luz stifles her relationships with both Willow and Gus (as it is more or less non existent outside of a few lines or group scenes); all of Amityâs character growth is largely because of her relationship with Luz, but the same cannot be said for Luz, leaving their relationship lopsided. This is particularly true for me (and is a total personal Aro-spec induced nitpick) and is all the more glaringly obvious considering they barely had one episode where the two were on friendly / friend-ish terms before crush feelings on Amityâs side came in. This makes me feel less invested in their relationship as a whole, as while itâs exceedingly cute, it feels like itâs based on nothing but Crush⢠Feelings and that will also be less compelling to me than a strong Foundational Friendship that develops into a crush. I donât mind that development happening fast, but this was a little too fast in my book.Â
Final disclaimer: Still like the show, still think itâs good, these are just some of the reasons I donât think itâs Great. The lack of a Merger will haunt me. Thank you goodnight
025 - GREDNEKE
Spike Snake pokemon
TYPE: FIRE
Male: 50%; Female: 50%
Ability : BLAZE
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Dex: Greadnakes live in mountains and deserts. They are very friendly, but very suspicious of humans. They like to dig tunnel galleries, which are lit up thanks to the flame of their tail.
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HP: 40
ATTACK: 50
DEFENSE: 35
SP. ATK: 60
SP. DEF: 40
SPEED: 50
If you actually believe this isnt trolling your a god damn idiot. And this is the most pristine quote of biphobia I've seen (from both posters) âĄâĄâĄ so thank you for that
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Story time: I started a book about 23 hours ago and just finished it. Also in that time I slept for 10 hours, spent time with family, was at work, etc. Anyway, I enjoyed the book (Simon vs. the Homo Sapiens Agenda). But it felt like it flew by, so after I finished I looked up the word count because what are pages? Pages are meaningless. I only function in word counts anymore.
The estimate I found was 58,580. My immediate reaction was âoh, thatâs why. Thatâs nothing!â But what a shitty response. Because no. Thatâs not nothing. Thatâs a whole. Damn. Book. An entire novel! And Fic authors regularly bust out 30k, 50k, 100k, 150k words. AND THEY DO IT FOR FREE. WHILE WORKING AND LIVING THEIR LIVES.
So anyway, thank your favorite fic author today because they deserve it. Because theyâre amazing. Theyâre the MVPs.
This is awesome. With that said, huge appreciation also to fic writers who write shorter fics - 10k, 5k, 1k, 500 words. Because yeah, huge long fics get a lot of love, and a lot of labour goes into them, but the same is true for tiny fics as well. Not everyone is banging out huge great novels, but little ficlets are fantastic and still bring readers a ton of joy.
So if youâre feeling a bit downcast because you canât write that 50 chapter epic or your latest WIP is âonlyâ 2k and it still took you ages - thatâs amazing. Seriously. Not everyone is naturally wordy or prolific. And you can say a ton with just a few hundred or thousand words.
Props to short fic creators - you guys are awesome.
For those writers who discredit themselves because they feel they arenât writing the novels that others might, youâre still writing a novella, my dears. Youâre still putting time, effort, and passion into something. Well done.
(honestly shout out to all fuckin fic writers. You didnât have to give us shit and still y'all out here living ya best life and doin something you love. Bravo.)
Hunter, on the floor:*watching window*âŚ.feeling refreshed?
Luz:Human world tip, hot water doesnât last forever, and this house holds seven in it.
Hunter:Why go last then?
Luz:I donât know. I guess I knew it wouldnât have mattered for me either way.
Hunter:Makes senseâŚ
Luz:Looking at the stars?
Hunter:You know Iâm not. Just, keeping watch.
Luz:What for?
Hunter:
Hunter:I donât know.
Luz:âŚ
She walks fully into the room, ignoring covers, pillows, everything. Luz takes her seat on the floor and leans against Hunterâs back, keeping an eye on the doorway which lead out to down stairs and several several other windows.
Luz:Iâll cover the blind spots.
Hunter:âŚ.Good idea.
Their bodies loosened up, but just a bit. Rain kept pouring outside. Night was completely here, and what should be the worst has already passed; yet neither bothered to bring that up. There would be no convincing the other to sleep peacefully, because without words, they already why the other stayed awake. Sleep just wasnât an option, so might as well keep watch and keeping thinking.
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goldenlight friends-to-lovers but not in the âIâve secretly had a crush/been in love with you this whole time. since the moment I saw you I just knew I felt differently about you and thought you were the most beautiful person Iâve ever seen.â way but rather âyou were just any other person to me when we met. your presence wasnât significant to me in any way but eventually we became friends, one day at a time. we connected and we were much similar than I thought, but also much more different. and strangely as I got to know you, I felt like I began to understand myself a little better too. the day came where we were good friendsâclose friendsâand for years we stayed that way. but yesterday, I looked over and you were making pancakes. you looked over your shoulder and smirked, boasting about how well they were coming along but all I could think about was your stray hairs and bed head. it wasnât that I was struck by your beauty but I was struck by you. i was hyper aware of every detail and habit of yours with such a fondness that it completely threw me. these feelings are festering in me more and more by the day with no clarity in sight. the line between platonic and romantic feels so blurry now, and Iâm terrified of what that means.â