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#nathan chill out man

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Being an evil doppelganger has to be so fucked up like imagine meeting a better version of yourself. Some chain of events going differently that led to "you" being a better person in a way you can never achieve. Personally I'd have no other option but to try and kill them
It's always "oh no my evil clone or twin or whatever is trying to kill me" and never How is my evil clone? Says a lot about society
Me, crashing the fuck out: you think you're better than me? You think you're fucking better than me???
My good clone, dodging a glass: I mean like objectively yeah
Hey you know what was so fucked up actually was when Nathan straight up killed Duke for real at the end of Haven. Like. Can we talk about that again. Does anypony remember when that happened
definitely a case of fanfic was right and canon was wrong
Hello Iâm back on my bullshit
Plot twist: the two boys you're choosing between are polyamorous, but they also hate eachother's guts so you still have to pick one
Sorry but watching them fight gets me off, I'm keeping them both in a jar and shaking it up and down every hour.
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make a poll with five of your all time favorite characters and then tag five people to do the same. see which character is everyone's favorite
Hettyâs favourite characters
Ellie đĄ (The Last Of Us)
Lady Dimitrescu 𩸠(Resident Evil)
Audrey Parker đ¨ (Haven)
Aloy đš (Horizon Zero Dawn)
Chloe Price đ (Life Is Strange)
Tagging: @otasunestanblog @lewyn-martell @sebcheb @dimitrescs
And anyone else who wants to do it!
new ship dynamic called schrodingerâs divorce where characters are simultaneously bitterly divorced and fondly married for twenty years
This show forced be to think about the mechanics of not being able to feel, but then answers absolutely NONE of the resulting questions from even the most cursory examination of what that must be like. Okay, he doesnât feel pain, or when people touch him. How often does he just⌠clear tables because he canât feel when his hand hits whatever is sitting on top of the desk? Does he experience texture when eating? Some evidence indicates no, so that means that food for him is just⌠completely different than it is for most people, which must influence his eating habits (hence the whole pancakes thing, not a big textural element there? Why didnât they just say that?) Is he spatially aware? How does he navigate in the dark? Does he regularly run into doorframes? Why is he not extremely clumsy? Does he wear itchy/uncomfortable clothing because he canât feel it and nothing matters? He pets dogs but does he derive pleasure from it if he canât experience dog fur softness? Can he tell how tightly heâs gripping something? Has he broken things or hurt people because of this, if itâs the case? I donât need answers to ALL of these things, but if youâre making this a thing, you have to make it a THING, you know?Â
Okay, when are you gonna get past this whole âI hate Dukeâ thing?
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Literature, like jazz, is not about the gay sex you write but about the gay sex you don't write.

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Fascinated by the way Nathan looks so evil on this Season Two image on Amazon
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So youâve written rare pair fic on AO3- how rare are we talking? Select how many fics are tagged for your rarest written pairing on AO3, and letâs see how rare your ship REALLY is.
2000+ (You are on a luxury cruise.)
1500-1999 (Youâve chartered a trip and drank margaritas on the deck.)
1000-1499 (You are fishing off the back hoping desperately for more.)
500-999 (Storms may pass but you are unsinkable.)
100-499 (There is no bond like that of you and the five others manning the ship)
50-99 (The ship left the dock without everyone on board and you cannot drive.)
10-49 (The only reason youâre alone on board is youâre the only one with taste.)
Less than 10 (I am the captain now.)
Reblog and put your rare pair in the tags/comments! I want to see the depths people will go to create, for the most random two characters in the most obscure media.
Hmm hmm hmm Leverage/Haven AU where Eliotâs Trouble is that heâs not quite on Nathan levels but he has an abnormally high pain tolerance and so he uses that to be the teamâs hitter and everything goes perfectly well and no one suspects anything until one day he gets a call from Duke about a particularly nasty Trouble that ends up bringing Eliot back to Haven for a conâŚâŚâŚâŚâŚâŚ..
ORâŚâŚ after a particularly nasty con the Leverage team needs to lay low for a bit so they hunker down in picturesque Haven where nothing ever goes wrong only to get sucked into trying to solve the Trouble Of The Week with their fellow ot3âŚâŚ
Okay okay wait hang onâŚâŚâŚ.. letâs not forget that Duke is a Criminal as well so Leverage/Haven AU where Parker has history with Duke because he once helped her smuggle [thing] out of [place] so when the Lev!Trio shows up in Haven, theyâre trying to blend in and be Normal but Duke immediately clocks her and is like oh hey itâs Parker! Whatâs up bestie! Have you heard the latest news in crime world? And Parkerâs like ah hey Duke! Why yes I have heard the crime news but did you hear THIS crime news?? And both Hardison and Eliot are like who tf is this guy
The squads are sitting around on Dukeâs boat playing cards when Duke notices that Parker is wearing [illegal thing] and heâs âlike how did you possibly find that! I hid it so well!â And Parkerâs like âno you didnât, I also found [other 15 illegal things] as well as your stash of whiskey. You should probably consider drinking less btw.â Duke is so impressed and a little bit in love that he very nearly proposes on the spot. Meanwhile Nathan and Audrey are obviously pretending that they didnât hear any of that. Eliot and Hardison are beaming with pride

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âHaven:â How to Write a Love Triangle
God, this has been in my drafts for months because trying to put down all my thoughts about it has been more difficult than I anticipated (and I forgot to save halfway through, so my draft was deleted. Ugh).Â
Something I noticed about Haven, on like, my third watch through, is that the dominant love triangle wasnât getting on my nerves. And that was weird, because love triangles are my least favorite plot device and I tend to fast forward through all the overwrought melodrama that accompanies them. Theyâre banal, theyâre not realistic, and by God, do they get stale as soon as theyâre introduced. But Haven wasnât like that, and it took me awhile to realize why:Â
The show treats the characters like the adults they are, and as a result, subverts pretty much all of the usual tropes that go along with such a plot device. Because itâs not unbelievable for two guys to fall for the same girl, but it is unbelievable for three adults in their 30â˛s to act like middle schoolers. And once I realized that, I started seeing that pretty much everything about the love triangle was just so refreshingly mature, and that there is a ârightâ way and a âwrongâ way to handle this trope. My favorite differences that âHavenâ has that other shows get wrong:
1) First and foremost, Audreyâs agency as a person in her own right, and the central part of this love triangle, is paramount throughout. I read somewhere that love triangles, particularly M/F/M ones, are often less âtrianglesâ and more âangles,â with the female character being backed into a corner while the men fight over who wins the prize. You can see this in other fandoms, like Buffy, in which the Angel/Buffy/Spike triangle is much more about Angel and Spike than it is about Buffy. While often laughed at (Buffy makes frequent jokes about being subject to âtestosterone poisoningâ by being in the middle), the show never really deconstructs this idea that the most important part of the love triangle are the boys and their âworthiness,â rather than Buffy and her individual feelings. Buffy is, after all, the reason theyâre competing over the Sanshu prophecy, and while not the origin of their rivalry, becomes its sole reason pretty quickly. Though it should be noted the origin of their rivalry is another love triangle.
Contrast this with Haven, where Duke and Nathan have a history that has nothing do with Audrey, and weirdly, their attraction to her doesnât really factor into their rivalry. Itâs pretty much the only reason they even speak. They have completely separate campaigns to win Audreyâs affection, and whether or not sheâs receptive is not only entirely up to her, but informs how the guys interact with her. Sometimes this happens in front of each other, but they donât really go for relationship sabotage or any other form of pettiness, as again, itâs Audreyâs choice. Itâs also noticeable that the love triangle is briefly interrupted by a Chris Brody commercial break in season 2 and both Duke and Nathan respect this.Â
2) This agency leads me into my next favorite thing: Audrey isnât forced to make a hard choice. Again, since Audrey is at the center of this love triangle, both Duke and Nathan are hyper-aware of which way the wind blows. Audrey and Nathanâs relationship grows organically, and Duke, refreshingly, sees the writing on the wall pretty early on in the series. And he doesnât try to force it. He recognizes that itâs Audreyâs choice and he canât make her choose him. If it isnât going to happen, it isnât going to happen. And speaking ofâŚ
3) Audreyâs choice is respected. There are few more satisfying scenes from the perspective of the mature love triangle than the one in âMagic Hour,â where Audrey, in a moment of weakness, kisses Duke. In any other series, this would have been much more salacious and it would become a major issue, reigniting the love triangle and giving Duke an opportunity to re-up his campaign to be with Audrey. ButâŚit doesnât. Audrey recognizes sheâs stressed about her life and Nathan and sheâs not actually into it and Duke backs off. He could have pushed it a little, tried to dismiss her concerns or go for another kiss. But he doesnât, he respects her choice and it doesnât affect their friendship in the slightest. It probably didnât feel great for Audreyâs interest in him to be merely the result of her existential crisis, but he doesnât make her feel bad about it.
Quite possibly the best thing to come out of the love triangle in this season is the concept that Dukeâs feelings are not Audreyâs problem. It is Dukeâs responsibility to deal with them. He doesnât even bring them up unless someone asks him directly. Which is the direct opposite of how this usually plays out, where the âloserâ in the love triangleâs entire personality becomes about how theyâre the âloserâ in the love triangle, and often making the object of their affection feel bad for not picking them. And speaking of DukeâŚ
4) Duke isnât made âthe bad guyâ to make Nathan more appealing. You see this so often in other media: the guy the writer(s) decide is the âwrongâ pick suddenly turns into a complete asshole so that the ârightâ pick suddenly becomes the only logical choice. No one wants to see their protagonist end up with an asshole, and the writers donât want to alienate fans by forcing the protagonist to make a hard choice. Dukeâs personality and interactions with Audrey donât really change over the course of the series, except that he stops hitting on her once itâs clear sheâs choosing Nathan. But this brings me to my next pointâŚ
5) Nathan does not provide everything Audrey needs, emotionally speaking, despite being the one sheâs supposed to be with. I mentioned this in my review for âBall and Chainâ for the @havenfanrewatch that something unique in Haven is that Duke provides an objectivity and particular type of support for Audrey that Nathan does not. While theyâre pursuing her in the love triangle, this makes sense; theyâre supposed to be opposites to give Audrey something to choose from. If they were both the same, it would be boring.
But unusual for the love triangle trope is that Duke sticks around after Audrey rejects him. And he continues to be this unique kind of support; this is never really a role Nathan grows into, as would be typical for a decided love interest. Nathan is Audreyâs soulmate and the person sheâs supposed to be with, but Duke is Audreyâs best friend; Nathan is too close to the situation and lacks objectivity, while Duke does not and Audrey needs that. And sometimes so does Nathan. This is exemplified in episodes like âThanks for the Memories,â where Nathan angrily calls Duke out for letting Audrey go into the Barn, while Duke counters that itâs her choice and the correct thing to do is support her. Or in âThe New Girl,â where Duke, not clouded by Nathanâs intense grief and guilt, is the one to be able to tell that âLexieâ is faking. In any other show, this would be used as a way to revive the love triangle, as it would prove that Duke knows Audrey âbetterâ than Nathan does, and she therefore âchose wrong,â but itâs not. Itâs just Dukeâs continued habit of paying attention to Audrey and calling her out on her shit. He does it again in the next episode when she insists he hide this new information from Nathan (also, again, in any other show, this would play into re-igniting the love triangleâa shared secret; instead, Dukeâs angry on Nathanâs behalf and wants nothing to do with it). And speaking of Duke sticking aroundâŚ
6) Duke sticks around! Duke sticks around after itâs clear that heâs the loser in the love triangle. In part because heâs still in love with her, but also because he genuinely likes her as a person and is content to be her friend even if she doesnât want him the way he wants her. What a novel concept. Itâs weirdly rare for both contenders in the love triangle to continue to be main characters after the love triangle has concluded. And when Duke does move onâŚ
7) Giving Duke a love interest of his own is handled in a sneakily deft way. Admittedly, not initially; his whole plot line with Evi was kind of (really) half-assed. But arguably, the writers didnât actually intend for that to take off, because the main love triangle was still in full swing, so there wasnât any investment put in it. Frustrating, but typical. Though, hint to writers: if you donât plan on ever fleshing out a plot thread, donât hint that it has a complicated backstory at odds with your charactersâ current characterization. The writers just casually dropping âOh, yeah, Duke was marriedâ was definitely a âwhat, what?!â moment. And absolutely nothing is explained. Thereâs not indulging in exposition that would be unnatural for two people already know each other and have a shared history, and then thereâs swinging the pendulum the other way and having two characters who really should talk about their history, have no reason not to, and then they justâŚdonâtâŚ? I digress.
Come season 4, though, they needed to give Duke a love interest of his own because the love triangle is now concluded and needs to stay concluded. And this could have backfired spectacularly. It usually does. Introducing a new character, particularly one who becomes a love interest for a main characterânever mind 1/3 of a showâs most prominent love triangleâusually doesnât go very well. But what I found fascinating in perusing Tumblr after completing the series (several years after it ended) is that so many fans were like âYeah, I ship him with Audrey/Nathan/etc. but Iâd totally be willing to not get my ship if we get to keep Jennifer.â And in the interest of full disclosure for this sectionâŚDuke and Jennifer are my favorite Haven couple. Their first kiss is probably my favorite in all of media. Itâs beautiful. Iâm such a sucker for confirmed bachelor (or bachelorette) type characters finding their person and just tripping and falling flat on their faces in love.
But! From a writing standpoint, something I think is fascinating about this particular bend to season 4 is not only that Duke gets his own love interest, but that the show has the self-awareness to realize that while Duke might be an ideal partner for Audrey, she is not an ideal partner for him, because Jennifer is everything for Duke that Audrey is not. There is a pretty high level of self-awareness on the writing team already just in general, but itâs a bold move to subtly imply that your protagonist would be a shit girlfriend to the other half of the love triangle you spend three seasons pushing. The show never goes as far as to admit that Audrey and Nathan kind of treat Duke like crap, all things considered, but it does give him a love interest who is far more interested in his well-being and self-esteem as opposed to how useful he is in solving the Troubles. Which is something I didnât even realize was lacking until episodes like âCrushâ and âThe Lighthouse.â Someone being righteously pissed off because Duke has to be re-Troubled and theyâre concerned thatâs going to affect him negatively? Yes, please, because itâs not as though Duke isnât already resigned to relating to other people based on his utility.
8) The love triangle stays gone even after Jenniferâs death. This would have been a really opportune time for the writers to pivot and re-invigorate the love triangle, but they donât. Dukeâs feelings remain complicated but ultimately platonic for Audrey and Jenniferâs death has a realistic and lasting impact. Not as long as would probably be realistic, but showâs gotta show, right? Jesus.
Is everything handled perfectly? No. The love triangle goes on far too long; itâs really only viable in season 1 and maybe half of season 2. After that, itâs pretty clear that Audrey is choosing Nathan but the love triangle lingers on like itâs on life support through two more seasons. And pops up at the most random times. Like, thereâs times when it seems like the writers have given up the ghost, only for it to pop up briefly for two seconds another time. And while the love triangle does thankfully stay dead, for all intents and purposes, in season 5, having the whole Mara/Duke subplot seems like a really cheap way for the writers to try and have their cake and eat it, too. Not a fan. And most of this long diatribe is about Duke, because Nathan tends to be written in a way that leans into a lot of the love triangle love interest tropes that I donât like very much, such as being quick to get jealous and going over the top to âsaveâ Audrey even if it means disrespecting her boundaries. But even then, these are character flaws, and we know theyâre character flaws because not only does he get consistently called out for them, when he engages in them, he always makes the situation worse. Theyâre not helpful or appreciated. Especially by Audrey.
And thatâs not to say that the writers treat all the love triangles with the same revolutionary hand as the main one. The light one between Nathan, Audrey, and Jordan in season 3 is more fit for junior high than anything involving adults, from Jordan just being petulant and petty the whole time and Audrey and Nathan being seemingly unable to have an honest and thoughtful conversation. And the one between Nathan, Audrey, and Chris just seems like someone decided it should be one, but they couldnât be bothered to put any effort into it. Which I prefer, but still.
Overall, such a breath of fresh air and something a lot of other shows could take lessons from. Adults donât want to watch other adults act like theyâre 12. âHavenâ proves you absolutely can write a compelling love triangle narrative that respects the intelligence of both the characters in it and the audience watching it. I might do another post about other romance tropes the writers subvert in a way that is both refreshing and realistic, but this post is already long enough.
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s01e04 Consumed
Strangest moment in the episode ...
candy apples turning rotten in an instant
cows living behind an ice cream store in the middle of town
dead birds falling from the sky
Lobster Pups
Vince & Dave helping Audrey choose a dress
Duke accidentally buying a restaurant for $20
A decisive victory for Benji and his cows đđŚ
It makes exactly zero sense. Audrey brings up the issue about zoning and Nathan makes an offhand remark about "building where the cows live," which a) does not resolve the question about zoning and b) makes even less sense. Cows wouldn't be living in the middle of a coastal town. And if they did, that little space he had them in is not nearly big enough to meet their needs. There wasn't even any place for them to go in inclement weather. I know Haven exists in a weird alternate universe where it's always spring in Maine, but season 5 does suggest it snows there sometimes.
And forget about zoning, I'm sure the health department would take issue with manure being that close to where food is being manufactured and sold. Raw food. Speaking of which, how is he pasteurizing this milk for this ice cream?
There are certainly some details the show glosses over.
Because also, keeping and milking enough cows to produce enough milk to keep a whole town supplied with ice cream seems like a full time job in itself, plus there's a store to run, and yet all of this is being done by one guy who regularly takes two hour naps in the middle of the day? Something seems to ... not quite add up there.
I was about to post that maybe 3-4 cows as depicted could be enough to keep a small town in ice cream, but then I remembered that the writers have no sense of scale and accidentally made Haven the fifth largest city in Maine.
I knew people growing up in a small town in new england who had cows, but guess where they lived? ON A FARM!!