Sixteen people forged documents and claimed to be "duly elected and qualified electors" for Michigan, Attorney General Dana Nessel said.
Sixteen Republicans who allegedly sought to replace Michigan's electoral college representatives after the 2020 election with a slate suppor
They tried to send the false slates to Pence on Jan 6th.
Mike Roman passed the names to a House GOP aide in a bid to get them to then-Vice President Mike Pence, people familiar with the episode tol
This was not about questioning the election. By all means, question away. But when the results of questioning the election doesn't go your way, it's time to concede. Something Trump still has not officially done.
The various claims of evidence alleging a stolen 2020 election have been exhaustively investigated and litigated. Judges heard claims of ill
Also a reminder that Trump has been consistently ramping up the idea of voter fraud without evidence. Even in elections where he has won. Too big to rig? There was no evidence anything was rigged.
“Research has been consistent over time that voter fraud is infinitesimally rare,” one expert tells NPR.
Former President Donald Trump’s election-year message to his supporters is clear and often repeated: If Democrats win the November election,
Fox News knew the election wasn't rigged, but ran the stories anyways.
Court filings in the now-settled case brought by Dominion reveal messages from Rupert Murdoch, Tucker Carlson (now of Twitter), and others.
And sort of unrelated, but Trump's admin acknowledged the dangers of Jan 6th before immediately lying about it.
The top House Republican got caught in a lie that could threaten his career — but a little groveling before Trump can go a long way.
There was stuff that I couldn't find that I'll probably add to this post later.
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I'm baffled by how extreme the far right on here has become. Many of these people were reasonable people in their early 20s. I remember many of them. It wasn't like this at all. They weren't so deeply racist or conspiratorial back then.
It's fucked up to see them now. Their former selves would not recognize them.
for clarity, i'm not talking about full-blown sleuthing here. both those accounts are now banned, so just visiting them wouldn't be enough to determine if the screenshots are genuine. one would have to dig deeper. but you did at least visit them, right? you did type the urls into your address bar and TRY to determine if they were real or not. right? you're not telling me you didn't even do that much, are you? the bare minimum? please tell me you're not saying that
Did you troll? You could contribute to the conversation with facts one way or another. And it always comes down to trust but verify. Do your own research. Popping off with “what ifs” is retarded. Please tell you you’re not saying that. At a bare minimum. Youre not telling me you didn’t even do that.
Spoiler…you didn’t and you won’t. Because you know this is true. All you have is denial and deflections. Every time. Have a nice day.
yes. i did. that is how i know the accounts are banned, as you can discover for yourself by visiting the links. that is the fact i have brought to the conversation. did YOU check? or did you just accept a couple of screenshots at face value?
If you read anything on my blog you can bank it is about as verified as can be. Not perfect in the age of fakery but it’s as close as can reasonably be. Beyond reasonable in fact. Many posts are made after the research, sometimes significant research, without “the research” added to the actual post so as to not distract from the actual post.
And I’m very familiar with pedosky.
So not sure what point you’re trying to make. The OP post from X was that pedosky was a haven for..well pedos. And it was conveniently left off Starmers inclusion, which is “odd” and I’ve already addressed elsewhere. But the focus of attention in this thread has turned to the pedo aspect. Which is commonly known IF you’ve been paying attention along the way. Or did your research. Two above examples coming right out and saying it, throwing it your face, putting the progressive degenerative spin on it calling it a sexual orientation of “minor attracted person” which is code for pedo. The accounts are now banned, and you ask for evidence they existed to prove that point. How much more do you need?
And that’s gets back to my point…you’ll just troll, deflect and distract…because no one can verify a deleted post or banned account. Ahhh…but you can, thus proving the point three times over:
But for those entirely new to the conversation surrounding the Bluesky pedo problems, let’s review, in grand detail, ad naseum The who what where and why of Bluesky.
Who/Why/when was Bluesky created:
It was Jack Dorsey’s pet project. The same Dorsey that censored patriots, “anti-vaxers”, MAGA enthusiasts, all evidence of the Jan 6 true insurrection, Covid origin stories, “conspiracy theorists” and a sitting president. Among many other things. In short he’s a POS and any endeavor should be suspect. But he started the vision for Bluesky in 2019, went beta in 2023 and went fully operational, open to the public in Feb 2024. Remember that date.
The why: it’s a long discussion and fairly difficult to explain and understand. But here’s the summary:
The above doesnt mean much to most people but it should be noted that as the CEO of Twitter at the time, Dorsey COULD have done this with Twitter if he wanted to change things, which he said he did. Granted there’s some risks etc, but as the ceo he could have done this. That’s the bottom line. But he didn’t. That itself doesn’t mean anything but now let’s go back to the timeline.
Elon buys twitter in Oct 2022. Fires most of the inbred staff. Has problems immediately and very publicly with how it’s run by the remaining inbreds. Terminates more. Some very publicly. Calls out the censorship and other issues that Twitter ALLOWED.
Trump wins in Nov 2024 and there’s a MASSIVE INFLUX to Pedosky. Odd. Most call it “Twitter for leftists” or some other echo chamber for “progressives”. Hmmmm…you sure about that? It’s obvious they can’t debate on ideas but even on Twitter you can follow or block, so why did they leave? It really served zero purpose.
Let’s tie this all up with the pedo issue. Here’s the policy for just calling yourself a “minor attracted person” on X:
☝️That goes into effect May 2024. Hmmm 2024 you say? Zero tolerance. Banned AND reported:
What’s Blueskys policy on calling yourself a MAP:
LOL. IT draws “scrutiny”. That’s code for “we allow it”
What was Twitters policy BEFORE Elon Took over:
Imagine calling yourself a variant of a pedophile (the progressive term being minor attracted person) and you get to talk about this evil, vile trash openly on social media, specifically old Twitter and Bluesky:
“Hi I’m a pedophile!” Ewww
“Hi, I’m a MAP”. Hello, come right in!!
Don’t be retarded about all this, Dorsey clearly had/has an agenda.
But let’s keep going…isn’t it curious how similar the Bluesky logo is to a known pedo logo circulated by the fbi:
There is zero chance no one knew the similarity. They would have known extensively these symbols as moderators of social media..yet curiously…they went with it. That’s “odd”.
When Bluesky went public in May 2024, they gathered 10 million users by September. Trump wins in Nov 2024 and it doubles almost immediately. Because leftists gonna leftist. There’s that date again…2024.
But in that huge influx even Bluesky has to admit they have a problem, or at least CYA:
☝️Nov 15, 2024. Word is out…pedos rush to Bluesky.
And…it …just…hasn’t…stopped:
(Note I can’t post more pics as Ive reached the limit so here’s the text):
IWF has partnered with Bluesky (announced February 2025) to help tackle CSAM using their tools and datasets, and they have commented on rising CSAM trends across platforms generally, but no IWF page or statement uses this exact wording.
☝️note the wording from this Jan 2025 update by Bluesky: “rising CSAM trends”.
Now Let’s look at some posts to summarize:
The examples are endless.
So in summary, you have to be retarded, in denial, or severely uninformed to NOT know Bluesky is Pedosky.
i'll start by clarifying my position. to bluesky, i am indifferent. i've never used it and likely never will. if it's full of pedos, so be it. what i care about here is not the veracity of the screenshots themselves, or whether bluesky deserves its impugnment. what I care about is that no-one seems to have made even a cursory attempt to check. the other guy didn't. and judging by the fact that you went on this whole tirade instead of simply answering the yes/no question "did you check?", i don't think you did either. maybe you've checked since then, but i strongly suspect you didn't until i asked about it
two screenshots of two accounts does not indicate that bluesky is full of pedos. whatever other evidence there might be, that is all this particular twitter post featured. one's first response to seeing a screenshot of a post should not be "i will accept this exactly as it has been presented" but rather "i will visit the source and see for myself." when i did so, i found the accounts banned. so that left me wondering; why has nobody else so far commented on them being banned? did anyone look? surely i'm not the only one who actually thought to look? if they're banned, how do we know they weren't just trolls?
so i started asking. the response thus far has not inspired confidence
my real concern is not with this case in particular, but rather the broader online trend of dwindling curiosity and scepticism. too often i see people falling for utter nonsense because they read a headline or look at a screenshot and immediately accept it without asking a single question. we cannot keep doing this. we cannot. the internet is an ever-deepening sea of bullshit and we must stay on our toes lest we drown in it. so in the interests of practicing what i preach, let's take a look at this review of yours
firstly, grok says the profiles did exist and were not bots. great. ASSUMING ai can be trusted here (more on that later) that clears that up. but were they sincere? or, again, were they just trolls trying to stir the pot? the accounts are now gone, so i accept that there's no way to check and therefore no way to know. but that's just it. if there's no way to know, that means you don't know. have you seen the accounts in whole? has anyone here? or is the sum of this evidence just screenshots of bios?
Trump wins in Nov 2024 and there’s a MASSIVE INFLUX to Pedosky. Odd. Most call it “Twitter for leftists” or some other echo chamber for “progressives”. Hmmmm…you sure about that? It’s obvious they can’t debate on ideas but even on Twitter you can follow or block, so why did they leave? It really served zero purpose.
you go on to ask why people would leave twitter for bluesky, given that the site's overall functionality hasn't changed; people can still block those they'd rather not interact with, so this exodus "served no purpose." except if the grievance were an ideological one, it would serve a purpose; namely, sticking a finger up to elon. if someone doesn't like elon, they will not wish to support elon by using twitter, and will therefore leave for bluesky. being able to follow or block is irrelevant
here we bring up BlueSky's policies, in the form of…a screenshot of an answer from grok? that's where you got this, right? googling this sentence yields no results, so this presumably isn't something posted on bluesky's terms of service or any actual website. i have to assume it's grok or some other ai
except when I asked grok, here's what i got:
how strange. maybe ai is not to be taken at its word, huh? it's definitely lying to one of us!
i also find it very odd that if you wanted to talk about bluesky's policies, you wouldn't just link to their actual policies. their community guidelines don't say anything specific at all about self-identification as a MAP, so that neither confirms nor denies whether it'll get you banned under the umbrella of child safety. but that leaves the question; if it's allowed, why are these accounts getting banned? why, if i search "minor attracted person" on bluesky, can i only find posts expressing disgust and condemnation?
this is a desperate reach barely even worth addressing. it's a butterfly. bluesky's logo is a blue thing that flies because twitter's old logo was also a blue thing that flies. it resembles the CLogo because that one also happens to be a butterfly. the only "similarity" is that they're the same animal. are butterflies forbidden now? are we just banishing an entire species from the world of graphic design because some pedo group allegedly used it as a calling card?
let's examine the wording here. "in the past 24 hours, we have received more than 42,000 reports…we're triaging this queue so that the most harmful content such as CSAM is removed quickly"
they say they are receiving a lot of reports. they say they are prioritising those reports that involve CSAM. they do NOT say that all 42,000 reports involve CSAM, or even a majority of them, or even a significant percentage. all it says is that there's a lot of reports, so they're handling the ones about CSAM first. that's it. this does not indicate some massive influx of pedos. it indicates a massive increase of activity. nothing more
IWF has partnered with Bluesky (announced February 2025) to help tackle CSAM using their tools and datasets, and they have commented on rising CSAM trends across platforms generally, but no IWF page or statement uses this exact wording.
☝️note the wording from this Jan 2025 update by Bluesky: “rising CSAM trends”.
note the wording? i agree! let's indeed note the wording here. "rising CSAM trends ACROSS PLATFORMS GENERALLY."
googling this text once again yields no results, which presumably means this is another ai response you just copy-pasted instead of screenshotting. looking at an actual article, the IWF does indeed point out rising levels of CSAM…on the internet. not on bluesky specifically. bluesky also notes a “a predictable uptick in harmful content posted to the network" that followed the "huge influx of users". this, again, is not evidence of a pedo swarm. statistically, more people on the site means more people breaking the rules. more users = more reports. a lot more users = a lot more reports
here we have a twitter post containing screenshots of headlines that do not link to the articles themselves. OH DEAR. IS THIS SETTING OFF ALARM BELLS IN YOUR HEAD? BECAUSE IT SHOULD. THIS IS THE SHIT I'M COMPLAINING ABOUT. RIGHT HERE. SCREENSHOTS OF HEADLINES ARE WORTHLESS. ALWAYS CHECK THESE. ALWAYS. WHAT DOES THE ARTICLE ACTUALLY SAY? COULD THE HEADLINE POSSIBLY BE MISLEADING CLICKBAIT LIKE EVERY OTHER HEADLINE IN EXISTENCE THESE DAYS? DID YOU ASK YOURSELF THAT QUESTION WHEN YOU SAW THIS POST? DID YOU READ THE BODY?
"According to a report by tech website Platformer, in 2023, BlueSky had two confirmed cases of child-oriented sexual content posted on the network. On Monday, there were eight confirmed cases."
eight. eight cases during an influx of three million people in one week. again, how is this not just "more users = more rulebreakers?" what evidence indicates that the increased levels of CSAM were disproportionate to the massively increased activity? how many of these incidents were just malicious actors trying to damage bluesky's reputation?
the one account in this list that is still active is Jamie J, who was explaining what those symbols meant, but does not themself appear to identify as a MAP. all the rest have been banned. all of them. they're gone. again, why are they gone if this is allowed on bluesky? if this is a haven for pedos, why are the pedos getting kicked out?
this also includes an article about the butterfly logo thing, which itself states "no evidence has been presented to support the allegations," and that the theory is unsubstantiated. further investigation also revealed that the supposed FBI document containing these "pedophile symbols" doesn't even seem to have been verified as genuine, and that in a similar incident, twitter users accused the symbols on huggies diapers of doing the same thing. come the fuck on
this was put together by a user, as are all these "starter packs." you just package up your favourite accounts and put them in a list to recommend them to other followers. it is not intended specifically for nsfw content, but since nsfw content is allowed, some will of course include it. "bluesky" is not curating these. the users are. also, is the implication that twitter DOESN'T have horny trans content? because buddy. it does. there is trans porn on twitter. you can't curate lists of it, because twitter doesn't have that feature, but it is most definitely there
so that's it, is it? that's the sum of the evidence for pedosky? dubious ai responses, twisted phrasing and wild, foam-mouthed conspiracy theory? that's supposed to expel all reasonable doubt?
i entered this assuming you'd just been careless. good news, i'm now questioning that assumption. bad news, that's because i'm starting to wonder if it's an accident
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“If you’re wondering why they’re working this hard to keep you from voting, the answer slipped out of Todd Blanche’s mouth this spring. Standing on a stage at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) outside Dallas, the man who’d been Trump’s personal criminal defense lawyer and who now runs the Justice Department as acting Attorney General told the crowd, “[E]verybody’s afraid that the next administration, if we don’t win, we’re going to all be investigated and indicted.” He meant it as a rallying cry. What he actually delivered was a confession: you don’t spend your evenings bracing for an indictment unless some quiet part of you already knows what you’ve done. A reckoning is coming for the people breaking the law for this president, and they can feel it.”
— This confession proves Trump’s terrified cronies know what’s coming for them
[Description: A divorce lawyer answering the question "do you believe in soulmates?"
He answers: I believe that whoever created the concept of soulmates should be taken into the town square and beaten to death. Or you should tell me who they are so I can send them a check for a couple of hundred thousand dollars, because they have done more to facilitate the demise of happy marriages than I could ever aspire to doing.
The concept of a soulmate to me is absolutely bizarre. To suggest that out of eight billion other people in the world, that there's just this one person, and they happen by the way to live within like the same town as you, where they went to the same university as you - what were the odds of that? And that's the only person you could ever have a happy, fulfilling relationship with. That's insane, folks. It's insane. And by the way, it's toxic. Because here's the thing: when you get married, society essentially tells you, this person, they're supposed to be your best friend, best lover, best roommate, best travel companion, best co-parent - that's a hell of a resume, guy. Like, it'd be shocking to find someone who fits all three of those things.
So what happens when you have this concept of a soulmate? And my partner, you know, they're the best co-parent, they're the best roommate, the best travel companion, but you know, they're not the best lover I ever had. Well, they mustn't be your soulmate then. That means that there's somebody out there in the eight billion people, that they would be the perfect one. And that's what the horizon that just forever recedes and keeps people constantly craving the next thing that might check all of the boxes. It's dangerous.
Look, we break in relationship, we heal in relationship. You're marrying a human being. They're just as flawed as you. They have great moments, they have awful moments, they have heroic moments, they have villainous moments. This idea that somebody out there is going to be this perfect angelic presence in your life, it is a fiction, and it is the siren song that's gonna send you right into the rocks of my office. /End Description]
I need this man to write a poem or short story anthology about the woes of marriage as the divorce lawyer looking in. I think it would be FASCINATING.
"it is the siren song that's gonna send you right into the rocks of my office"
SIR. PLEASE. WRITE ME SOME MORE VERSES.
I wish everyone would watch this video. It's actually a very powerful message and it's presented very well. Watching this video could legit save you decades of bullshit.
If you are looking for a right wing lolcow to latch onto, at this point, I can think of no better tumblr user.
How on Earth do you write this post:
💬 1 🔁 8 ❤️ 6 · I need assistance adding to this list. For the record, I think that a collaboration of the following things is "Leftist Bel
and then try to make a video on bad faith???
His justification is that he's just "calling a spade a spade". You can't make this shit up. Also, any redistribution of wealth or pro-immigrant position is Marxist according to him. He will claim that I'm misrepresenting him, that he's just against "illegal immigrants raping kids" and stuff like that, but that's bullshit. If you believe in any kind of refugee program, he will label that as supporting rape and murder of white women and children. I'm just calling a spade a spade.
His tumblr post is deeply hilarious on the topic of bad faith. He could not phrase a single one of those points in good faith. There are maybe a tiny handful of these that some anarcho-communists or like teenage leftists may agree with, but that's being charitable.
It's absolutely incredible that he couldn't manage to phrase a single one of these in a way that anyone could ever agree with. He'd attribute every single one of these to me, BTW. I should have never debated this guy. He needs mental help ASAP.
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You can point out to MAGA Christians that "hey, you don't follow what Jesus taught" and they'll look you dead in the eye and say "I don't have to follow what Jesus taught, because you don't either" and they think that's some huge own against you.
This is part of what makes online politics such a joke in general. Nobody is held to their own standard. Nobody thinks they need to be, because someone else isn't. It's ridiculous.
To bring it back to the main point, I just don't think MAGA Christians value their religion as much as they say. The politics actually come first and the religion is secondary. They are fully willing to abandon their supposed core values to enact politics.
Trump is above God. Hate is above love. Fuck thy neighbors. The rich men have passed through the eye of the needle.
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Intelligent Design is not an argument you can make.
I'm going to try to explain this as best I can.
Intelligent Design is something you can believe, but it's not a real argument. The idea of Intelligent Design is that God created the universe and there are so many things that are so incredibly complex in their function that they only be designed and could not emerge through evolution, which is framed as "random chance".
You simply cannot argue this. Why? Just look at the human body. Almost nothing works anywhere near perfectly. Almost every single part of our body has flaws. Almost every system has dysfunction. Everything deteriorates, ceases to function, or can be disabled.
God is supposed to be perfect. His design should be perfect.
I already know the response. Some allusion to God working in mysterious ways. Of course, you can say that God's design is perfect to God and that there are reasons for the perceived flaws in his design. However, this ceases to be an argument you can use in a debate at this point. It just becomes a justification for your own beliefs and not something persuasive.
I'm not a fool. I know people will still use this argument. I just wish they'd consider it from this angle so that maybe they wouldn't waste your time. It has to be one of the worst arguments for Creationism.
