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Game Changers Camp:) Featuring Shane being done with Lilya's never ending shenanigans. And poor Pricey having to witness it all.


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Week 8 pf @shanesummerfest and the theme is..
Game Changers Camp:) Featuring Shane being done with Lilya's never ending shenanigans. And poor Pricey having to witness it all.

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There are no chairs at Russian weddings
You go register your marriage at a registry office, and your whole family and all your friends stand together with you as a lady with most outrageous makeup and hair and a clipboard gives you a motivational speech about the new stage of your life. You don’t say vows, just say “I do” and sign the wedding certificate and kiss
And then everyone go to a restaurant
People sitting in chairs watching a bride being led down the aisle is a western tradition because western churches have pews. There are no pews in Russian orthodox churches. Everyone just stands there for hours, crossing themselves and bowing. “What about the old people?”, you may ask? They stand too! It’s not about your comfort it’s about suffering.
Anyway, chairs at weddings is a western Christian heteronormative tradition where they make a spectacle of a woman being “passed on” from her father to the groom
As a queer person who grew up in Russia, I don’t understand why is it so crucial to have chairs at hollanov wedding? One of them is Russian, the other hasn’t been socialized from childhood with ideas of a perfect wedding, why would they care?
whole house trying to figure something out
I know that the Russia issue is not addressed to the depth people want in TLG but it IS addressed. Galina asks if it’s realistic that Ilya would be deported, Ilya says no and states in the worst case (if he lost his hockey contract) they can marry and he can get a different job. Or retire, they’re rich.
The stakes are set very explicitly by the text. If Ilya is outed, it won’t be good, but he’s not in danger of deportation as long as Shane and Ilya marry. Whether that’s realistic is a different question. In the universe of the book, it’s true. And indeed Shane and Ilya marry almost immediately after the outing.
As for the realism, it’s worth noting that TLG was published in 2022 and Russia’s crack down on LGBTQ rights has intensified quite since 2023. There’s complicated aspects to this—the war has put Russia’s political leadership under pressure, the gay bashing stuff is red meat for a conservative base. Without COVID, maybe there’s no war, maybe there’s no gay propaganda law. Or maybe there still is! But regardless when Reid was writing while Russia was still far worse than Canada on gay rights, it wasn’t to the degree it is now where we’re seeing stripping of passports and attempted extradition of queer Russians abroad.
Ilya’s wealthy, he’s got a man who’s ready and willing to marry him, and the situation in HR verse Russia isn’t as bad (yet). He’s okay
ok, so, I had to add to it.
first laws, prohibiting "lgbt" propaganda were implemented in some russian states around 2008, if I remember correctly. So around the time Shane and Ilya meet and hook up. I think by 2010 it was on federal level (I remember, because I was taking part in a local anime festival in my home town in a state next to Moscow, and organisers asked as to send out "screen plays" for our shitty little cosplay scenes we did, for approval lol. because they didn't want to get a fat fine for braking the new gay propaganda law. anyway)
then it was getting worse and worse, but it wasn't illegal to be gay in Russia. it's still not illegal. (since recently, if you are part of "lgbt organisation", you are an extremist terrorist in Russia, lol. that includes allies, I guess?) basically, you are in danger if you do any activism, or if you are politically inconvenient. I find it interesting, that as Shane's and Ilya's relationship timeline progresses, the lgbt rights situation in Russia becomes more and more oppressive. I wonder how informed RR is. like, it definitely influenced my understanding of books' events.
that is to say, in TGL, realistically, Ilya is not in danger, as long as he's abroad and not politically inconvenient. I'd say, he may be in danger if he travels to Russia after he comes out/is outed - they can try to charge him with gay propaganda, or maybe someone can decide that harming or killing a queer hockey player can be a nice gift to Putin (hockey is his favourite sport). but Ilya's not that stupid, ok
well, you see how all of that is super convoluted and also ties in with very complex political and geopolitical processes. so "Russia has vague institutionalised homophobia" works much better in romance books.
I guess my hot take is that I think Ilya and Shane get almost exactly the same amount of development regarding their backgrounds.
Most of the focus is on their family dynamics, without reference to ethnicity or nationality. It doesn’t actually matter that Ilya is Russian for his relationship to his father to be written as it is—you could swap in any nation with a regressive political culture around LGBTQ rights. Ilya’s family story is bonkers trauma so there’s more emotional development around it, but Shane’s family is on screen.
There is some attention paid to their nationalities in how it impacts people’s understanding of them. Their nationalities also impact their material situations, Ilya’s passport, Shane having a classic Canadian cottage.
But Ilya is not sitting around thinking about the Russian food he misses. Neither ever think about their grandparents. I would argue the single most important cultural trait in the book is that Shane is Canadian. That really can’t be swapped out (he’s a very different character if he’s an American).
I'll be honest, I'm kinda glad we don't get a dipper exploration of the russian side of things. when I'm reading a hockey smut novel, I don't expect or want to see an elaborate and extensive look into the real world sociopolitical issues. I also don't want to see a typical "look what weird and quirky things and traditions those foreigners have" kind of scene. I don't need to see ilya doing some kind of an extremely russian thing to demonstrate his background to the reader and make him seem "more russian". in my opinion, sometimes it is truly better to leave things more vague instead of adding more stereotypical details.
and I see those exact things in hr fandom spaces a lot. so so many fics and headcanons just read as "klyukva" to me. and sure, it was hilarious to see at first, but it got annoying really quickly. now I mostly just cringe any time I see the wrong usage of russian terms of endearment or swear words in the hr fanworks. people loooveeee exaggerating or straight up making up absolutely nonsensical things in attempt to add to ilya's russian background.
also, for god sake, at this point people should just replicate how it was done in the books and just state that the words are being said in russian instead of butchering every single aspect of the language while trying to translate your text through google or ai. or just simply ask someone who actually speaks russian to translate the text for you, there are many people who would be glad to help with this.

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I would pay actual money for this fandom to stop projecting their own insecurities and traumas on Shane, no Shane Hollander does not have low self esteem, he has more self esteem in his pinky toe than you or i have on our entire bodies, where is that post that's like "the average fandom person cannot conceive the concept of a truly confident character" or smt like that like
Hi my name is Shane hollander and I'm the best hockey player in the world and I'm also a gorgeous model and I'm a super wealthy multimillionaire richer than 99% of you will ever be able to even understand and I have loving parents and a gorgeous husband who is also the other best hockey player in the world and also a multimillionaire and we play together for the Ottawa Centaurs, an idyllically progressive cup contending team who kicked my old team out of the playoffs and I'm about to win my 4th cup with them like girl fuck youuuu (affectionally)
Like when I read these books i expected people to accuse Reid of writting a Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way-type Mary Sue, not of "hating" Shane lmfao i cannot take you people seriously girl bye 💀