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Rank the Cullens from the most modern (talks the most modern, most interest in modern music/fads) to the most “old fashioned” (speaks like they are from a different time, carries themselves like they are from a different time, dresses that way, etc) Who do you think is the most modern?  Who do  you think is the most old fashioned?  Is it related to age (the oldest vamps are the most old fashioned) or is it more about attitude/personality?

It’s almost divided by how old they are as vampires, but I think it would have more to do with their basic personalities and what they were when they were human.

What might the favorite movies of the various Twilight characters be?  If you can’t narrow it down to a specific movie, what genre(s) do you think they like?  Do you think vampires other than the Cullens watch movies or are aware of pop culture much at all?  Do they screen films in Volterra?  Do nomads sneak into movie theatres?

Eddie has a secret stash of Elvis movies that he watches when no one's home.

"I can’t always be Lois Lane," I insisted. "I want to be Superman, too." - Twilight "I may not die now… but I’m going to die sometime. Every minute of the day, I get closer. And I’m going to get old." - Twilight "Mostly I dream about being with you forever." - Twilight I couldn’t really see...

lol and then Edward loses every game because he’s not used to playing without that advantage. I feel like Jasper and Carlisle could both demolish Edward at chess without the mind-reading factor. Edward’s very intelligent but he’s got an artist’s brain for the most part—his genius is music, you know? Jasper’s a strategist and Carlisle’s a scientist, both much more logical, analytical ways of thinking. Honestly wouldn’t Alice be the bigger problem? Alice sees your move once you decide it so she can do what Edward does basically, plus games of chance aren’t really chances with her; I mean if she can predict the weather and the stock market, a hand of cards or a roll of the dice should be small potatoes. 

Might not eat that.

she was too late, just to find him with Carlisle, having an honest “father-son” conversation and Carlisle showing him another perspective so Edward can change his mind.That could have been sweet! (I still don’t see why Carlisle couldn’t have just called Aro and been like: “My son is going to show up and beg for death, can you just hold him there until I can come and get him? There’s been a huge misunderstanding.  Thank you, friend.  I will be there in 14 hours.”  Less dramatic that way, I guess? lol)I just wish the mental health angle that been addressed here.  Both Carlisle and Esme had attempted suicide before and it could have been a good opportunity to revisit that and maybe even have Esme tell more about her back story, but all that happens in the aftermath is Esme saying to Edward: “never do that to me again!” or whatever and he sheepishly says “Sorry, Mom” and that’s the end of it.  That’s the end of the discussion. I think the “sorry, Mom” is the closest Edward gives to an apology to his family for putting them through all this (and exposing all their secrets to Aro which no one ever calls him out on ever). There’s no talk about why he did it, why he jumped to the conclusions he did, why he didn’t even TRY to live (it’s not like he tried to carry on without Bella but the pain was too much, he didn’t even consider carrying on without her), why he didn’t say goodbye, why he exposed them all to Aro, etc.  And Bella was you know, HEARING VOICES and intentionally putting herself in danger but it’s like “well the symptoms are gone because Edward is back” but you’d think that in a family with three medically-trained members and a few who have unique insights into the human mind/emotions they would have been a little more concerned about the behavior?  Like you said, E/B being reunited doesn’t solve the deeper issues that led them to this behavior in the first place. It could have been cool to have seen that explored a bit more and a great way to maybe address mental health and take some of the stigma away from it.

But I don’t have any more canon justification for that than the middle name or mother’s maiden name people do.  None of the Cullens’ parents (other than Edward’s) were given names by SM, so even if Carlisle were named after his father or his mother we don’t know what their names were. The beauty part is that none of this ‘fanon’ can be right or wrong, since SM didn’t specify.  Freedom!

It’s really hard to say since she doesn’t seem to have any inclination to do much of anything in the books.  She likes to read—but she mostly seems to read the same things over and over again, which isn’t going to fly as a vampire since they have perfect recall—once she’s read a book as a vampire once, she’ll remember every word perfectly.  I don’t see how she’d get any pleasure out of re-reading it. SM has said that Bella’s plan before the whole falling-in-love-with-a-vampire thing was to be a teacher, because it was the one thing about Renee that she respected/looked up to. But Bella wanted to teach literature at a high school or college level. Considering she’s frozen forever at 18/19, that’s going to be kind of difficult. She might be able to fudge being a recent grad at “22” and teach but she couldn’t go more than a few years before it was obvious she wasn’t aging—I mean 18-year-old Rosalie, 19-year-old Jasper & Alice, and 20-year-old Emmett were posing as high school students… how is Bella supposed to pose as a high school teacher/college professor? I’ve seen fanfic where vampire!Bella is a doctor, but I can’t see that happening. Even IF she has the control for it (and I don’t buy that she does.  Not eating her human father is not the same thing as being around bleeding strangers), and IF she could pass as old enough (which I don’t think she could at 18/19), I don’t think she has the personality for it. She was grossed out by blood as a human, after all. She doesn’t have the interest or the drive and frankly I don’t think she cares about people in the abstract that much—she cares deeply about people she knows and loves, but she doesn’t strike me as the type to want to serve humanity in general. Most of us aren’t. I sort of think she’s going to be disillusioned after a few years when the newness and excitement wears off and the monotony sets in. I kind of do hope she has to sit through high school a few times just so she appreciates what it’s like. I guess she could eventually teach?  Maybe online courses so it wouldn’t be as obvious how young she is?  I could also see her maybe getting into writing—she could be a ghostwriter for some other author, or write under a bunch of different pen names, or be one of those reclusive author types who never do interviews or book tours.

And this is why C/E as ‘grandparents’ to Renesmee is so weird to me. They’ve never been parents!  They can’t give Edward advice about raising a kid because they’ve never raised one. Esme had her baby for three days; Carlisle never had a child at all. They have no actual experience raising children—they have some experience with eternal teenagers/young adults, but that’s a totally different thing. They can’t say, “oh, she’s just like you were when you were a child” because they have NO IDEA what Edward was like as a kid. I get so weirded out in fics where C/E refer to the kids as like “our baby girl” or “our little soldier.” They wouldn’t think of them that way because they never knew them as children at all. Jasper was a fully-grown 100+-year-old vampire when they met him. They aren’t going to conceive of him as a little boy. They simply don’t have those experiences/memories.  So, as much as I’m not a fan of the magic baby genre, if you’re going to go there, please let C/E have a kid too.   Adopting fully grown vampires does not make up for being unable to have children.  Esme is “making do” with them as ‘substitutes’ but she knows it’s not the real thing. 

You’d think someone would notice that.  Especially someone whose job it is to be observant like, I don’t know, a police chief?  I like that Jacob had a moment in New Moon where he noticed it.  I don’t know how they explained that particular injury when she was in the hospital in Phoenix either. Teeth marks are pretty obvious, and that cover story about falling down a flight of stairs and out a window or whatever it was would not explain bite marks.I really, really wish SM hadn’t made Charlie so clueless.  I think him being suspicious and investigating the Cullens could have created some awesome tension.

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