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stupid leftists and their belief in *checks notes* the intrinsic value of human life
Reblog if you would burn down the statue of liberty to save a life
Hereâs the thing, though. If you asked a conservative âWould you let the statue of liberty burn to save one life?â theyâd probably scoff and say no, itâs a national landmark, a treasure, a piece of too much historical importance to let it be destroyed for the sake of one measly life.Â
But if you asked, âWould you let the statue of liberty burn in order to save your child? your spouse? someone you loved a great deal?â the tune abruptly changes. At the very least, thereâs a hesitation. Even if they deny it, Iâm willing to bet that gun to their head, the answer would be âyes.â Â
The basic problem here is that people have a hard time seeing outside their own sphere of influence, and empathizing beyond the few people who are right in front of them. Youâve got your immediate family, whom you love; your friends, your acquaintances, maybe to a certain degree the people who share a status with you (your religion, your race, etc.)âbut beyond that? People arenât real. Theyâre theoretical.Â
But a national monument? Thatâs real. It stands for something. The value of a non-realized anonymous life that exists completely outside your sphere of influence is clearly worth less than something that represents freedom and prosperity to a whole nation, right?
People who think like this lack the compassion to realize that everyone is in someoneâs immediate sphere of influenceâthat everyone is someoneâs lover, or brother, or parent. Everyone means the world to someone. And itâs the absolute height of selfishness to assume that their lives donât have value just because they donât mean the world to you.Â
P.S. I would let the statue of liberty burn to save a pigeon.Â
also, there is an extreme difference between what things or principles *i* personally am willing to die for, and what i would hazard others to die for. and this is a distinction i donât think the conservative hard-right likes to face.
an example: so, as the nazis began war against france, the staff of the louvre began crating up and shipping out the artworks. it was vital to them (for many reasons) that the nazis not get their hands on the collections, and hitlerâs desire for them was known, so they dispersed the objects to the four winds; one of the curators personally traveled with la gioconda, mona lisa herself, in an unmarked crate, moving at least five times from location to location to avoid detection.
they even removed and hid the nike of samothrace, âwinged victory,â which is both delicate, having been pieced back together from fragments, and incredibly heavy, weighing over three metric tons.
the curators who hid these artworks risked death to ensure that they wouldnât fall into nazi hands. and yes, they are just paintings, just statues. but when i think about the idea of hitler capturing and standing smugly beside the nike of samothrace, a statue widely beloved as a symbol of liberty, i completely understand why someone would risk their life to prevent that. if my life was all that stood between a fascist dictator and a masterpiece that inspired millions, i would be willing to risk it. my belief in the power and necessity of art would demand i do so.
if, however, a nazi held a gun to some kidâs head (any kid!) and asked me which crate the mona lisa was in, they could have it in a heartbeat. no problem! i wouldnât even have to think about it. being willing to risk my own life on principle doesnât mean iâm willing to see others endangered for those same principles.
and that is exactly where the conservative hard-right falls right the fuck down. they are, typically, entirely willing to watch others suffer for their own principles. they are perfectly okay with seeing children in cages because of their supposed belief in law and order. they are perfectly willing to let women die from pregnancy complications because of their anti-abortion beliefs. they are alright with poverty and disease on general principle because they hold the free-market sacrosanct. and i guess from their own example they would save the statue of liberty and let human beings burn instead.
but speaking as a leftist (iâm more comfortable with socialist tbh), my principles are not abstract things that i hold aside from life, apart or above my place as a human being in a society. my beliefs arise from being a person amidst people. i donât love art for artâs sake alone, actually! i donât love objects because they are objects: i love them because they are artifacts of our humanity, because they communicate and connect us, because they embody love and curiosity and fear and feeling. i love art because i love people. i want universal health care because i want to see people universally cared for. i want universal basic income because peopleâs safety and dignity should not be determined by their economic productivity to an employer. i am anti-war and pro-choice for the same reason: i value peopleâs lives but also their autonomy and right to self-determination. my beliefs are not abstractions. i could never value a type of economic system that i saw hurting people, no matter how much âgrowthâ it produced. i could never love âlaw and orderâ more than i love a child, any child, i saw trapped in a cage.
would i be willing to risk death, trying to save the statue of liberty? probably, yes. but there is no culture without people, and therefore i also believe there are no cultural treasures worth more than other peopleâs lives. and as far as iâm concerned the same goes for laws, or markets, or borders.
Well said!
This is an excellent ethical discussion.
The first time I came across this post, randomslasherâs addition was life changing for me. I suddenly understood where the right was coming from, and I had never been angrier.
This is also why so many people on the right fail to see the hypocrisy of trying to make abortion illegal when they themselves have had abortions. They can tally up their own life circumstances and conclude that it would be difficult or impossible to continue a pregnancy, but theyâre completely mystified by the idea that women they donât know are also human beings with complicated lives and limited spoon allocation.
This is also why they think âget a jobâ is useful advice. In their heads they honestly do not understand why the NPCs who make up the majority of the human race canât just flip a switch from âno jobâ to âjob.â When they say âget a jobâ theyâre filing a glitch report with God and they honestly think thatâs all it takes.
This is also why they tend to view demographics as individuals. They think that every single Muslim is just a different avatar for the same bit of programming.
Borrowed observation from @innuendostudiosâ here, but: thereâs also a fundamental difference in how progressives view social problems versus how conservatives view them. That is, progressives view them as problems to be solved, whereas conservatives do not believe you can solve anything.
Conservatives view social issues as universal constants that fundamentally are unable to be changed, like the weather. You can try to alter your own behavior to protect yourself (you can carry an umbrella), and you can commiserate about how bad the weather is, but you canât stop it from raining. This is why conservatives blame victims of rape for dressing immodestly or for drinking or for going out at night: to them, those things are like going out without an umbrella when you know itâs going to rain.Â
âBut then why do conservatives try to stop things they dislike by making them illegal, like drug use or immigration or abortion?â And the answer is: theyâre not. They know perfectly well that those things will continue. No amount of studies showing that their methods are ineffective will matter to them because effectiveness is not the point. The point is to punish people for doing bad things, because punishing people is how you show your disapproval of their actions; if you donât punish them, then youâre condoning their behavior.Â
This is why they will never support rehabilitative prisons, even though they reduce crime. This is why they will never support free birth control for everyone, even though that would reduce abortions. This is why they will never support just giving homeless people houses, even though itâs proven to be cheaper and more effective at stopping homelessness than halfway houses and shelters. Itâs not about stopping evil, because you canât; itâs about saying definitively what is Bad and what is Good, and we as a society do that by punishing the people weâve decided are bad.Â
This is why the conservative response to âholy fuck, theyâre putting children in cages!â is typically something along the lines of âitâs their parentsâ fault for trying to come here illegally; if they didnât want to have their kids taken away, they shouldnât have committed a crime.â It doesnât matter that entering the US unlawfully is a misdemeanor and child kidnapping isnât typically a criminal sentence. It does not matter that this has absolutely zero effect on people unlawfully entering the US. The point is that conservatives have decided that entering unlawfully is Bad, anything that is not punishing undocumented immigrants â due process of asylum and removal defense claims, for example â is supporting Badness, and kidnapping children is an appropriate punishment for being Bad.
#ivan karamazov#enters the chat (@the-world-lit-or-unlit)
Oh wow this makes so much sense actually. A long read, but everyone should read it. Itâs worth it.
I thought this was my hometown for a second
So this has actually been cited by academics as part of the major draw to online spaces is the fact that just existing in public is reacted to with hostility and punishment. Gretchen McCulloch discussed this is in her book Because Internet, citing research that shows teens and young adults want to be outside! We want to spend time in social places, itâs just that there arenât any places to exist in public without being charged for it.
When I was homeless as a kid my little brother and I loved to go to the library. We would keep warm in there reading good books all day long. Until residents of the town complained about us âloiteringâ at the library each day. The library staff then told us we were no longer allowed to stay more than an hour at a time. Imagine seeing two homeless children spending their entire days quietly reading just to keep out of the cold and having a damn problem with it.
my nephew, who is like 11 or 12, is playing â5D Chess With Multiverse Time Travelâ, which is exactly what it says on the tin, and I have never been more terrified of the youth of today
hereâs a sample picture from the Steam page:
what the hell is this
Wow Iâve never wanted a game more
Oh
Yes
This was definitely worth my 15 bucks
Iâm already in love

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A lesson in how to gird your loins.
via The Art of Manliness
I saw a ball gown version of this somewhere but I donât know where
omg i googled it andâŚ
YES.
Nobody reblogging this is cishet I guarantee it
Now this is badass
GIRD UP YOUR LOINS
yesssss
If your loins are girdled yet, you clearly are not prepared
Reblog if you are prepared
Why must the internet hurt me like this? đŤ đŤ đŤ
Reblog if you need a bookmark
So, I heard about this and I canât find the original, but apparently this started because someone returned a book to a library with a taco in the middle of it.
This post was already perfect, but that origin story made it ascend to a new level
I-
WOW OKAY
Excuse me as I plunge my self into suffocating dark emptiness for eternity to escape you dump survival juice on precious and beloved literature
This is amazing hahaha
It looks pissed
Enderman
This manâs optimism keeps me alive

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A Selkânam couple with their baby, on a ship en route to be exhibited in Europe as âwildmenâ. The Selkânam people are an indigenous tribe in the Patagonian region of Southern Argentina and Chile. Both appear to have slight damage on their ankles from cruel, probably iron, restraints.
The fear and confusion on their face is haunting. For people who had lived a simple hunting and gathering lifestyle, with little European interaction, the rest of their lives mustâve seemed like a surreal nightmare.Â
White History
Abducted by aliens.
White history
I really want to know who these people are/what happened to them
SO I DID A BIT OF DIGGING AND HOLY SHIT. THE SELKâHAM PEOPLE WERE WIPED OUT IN A MASS GENOCIDE.
LIKE⌠THEY ARE NO MORE. THE DESCENDENTS OF THIS COUPLE DO NOT EXIST.
AN ENTIRE LANGUAGE. AN ENTIRE CUISINE. AN ENTIRE WAY OF LIFE. WIPED AWAY.
YAâLL WANT SOME FUCKING WHITE HISTORY MONTH? HERE IS SOME GOD DAMN WHITE HISTORY FOR YOU TO PUT NEXT TO ALL THOSE SHINNY IMAGES OF THESE WHITE MEN WHO âDISCOVERED THE WORLDâ.
HANG THIS IMAGE IN ALL THE DAMN CLASSROOMS. IâM DONE.
In tierra del fuego theres a museum, they were alive until the early 20th century when they were hunted down, the landlords? ( terratenientes) Hired US hunters with experience in killing natives
and paid them for like ears and boobs i believe? Some were taken to europe to be civilized or gawked at.
Jose menendez and his wife sara braun are recognised as the authors of the genocide. Thereâs a lot of statues, houses, streets, they built most of punta arenas so their name remains.
However, in october 2019 the main statue in the town square was beheaded, the head left at the foot of the indio patagon with the legebd â braun menendez asesinosâ
Important to remember, the selk'nam werent the only one. Patagonia was full of small tribes, and they were all exterminated. Their culture, language, history, way of life, all gone.
Because european settlers wanted space to raise sheep and get rich.
I learned in a Latin Studies class (with a chill white dude professor) that when the Europeans first saw Aztec cities they were stunned by the grid. The Aztecs had city planning and that there was no rational lay out to European cities at the time. No organization.
When the Spanish first arrived in Tenochtitlan (now downtown mexico city) they thought they were dreaming. They had arrived from incredibly unsanitary medieval Europe to a city five times the size of that centuryâs london with a working sewage system, artificial âfloating gardensâ (chinampas), a grid system, and aqueducts providing fresh water. Which wasnât even for drinking! Water from the aqueducts was used for washing and bathing- they preferred using nearby mountain springs for drinking. Hygiene was a huge part if their culture, most people bathed twice a day while the king bathed at least four times a day. Located on an island in the middle of a lake, they used advanced causeways to allow access to the mainland that could be cut off to let canoes through or to defend the city. The Spanish saw their buildings and towers and thought they were rising out of the water. The city was one of the most advanced societies at the time.
Anyone who thinks that Native Americans were the savages instead of the filthy, disease ridden colonizers who appeared on their land is a damn fool.
Theyâve also recently discovered a lost Native American city in Kansas called Etzanoa It rivals the size of Cahokia, which was very large as well.
here are some reconstructions of TenochtitlanÂ
just a note, we donât think of old european cities as ruins, because those civilizations continued and kept building over the oldâthere are no abandoned ruins for us to visit & photograph. when we picture those old cities, we have only mental images drawn from our own assumptions & prejudicesâimages that tend to glorify âcivilizedâ europe.
since victors write history, our image of native american cities was created by colonizers motivated to uphold the ânative savageâ myth. when we think of these civilizations now, we think of âuncivilizedâ (rough, broken, abandoned) ruins, because thatâs what remains. ruins are the only thing left. because of the destruction wrought by western invaders, these civilizations never had a chance to continue building. they were destroyed, and all we have left is an unimaginative shadow of their former glory.Â
went to peru and visited some of their museums and learned inca history that american schools donât teach you. basically you know why they were beaten out by the spanish invaders? because incas were mostly scientists and not warriors. they had advanced medicine, farming and science technology. THATS what they were good at - tech - not building weapons to most efficiently kill people. the spanish were good at that. so they won. basically the real savages and thugs won and murdered a bunch of scientists, and their technology and advancements are lost forever. it took into the 20th century for colonizer technology to advance in the field of medicine and agriculture to the level of the incas. colonizers literally set human knowledge back like 500 years.Â
Itâs crazy to me that, literally everyone in the world was doing just fine until Europeans showed up flipped the script
i mean all of this yes but if you are nonnative please make sure you are not internalizing this idea that somehow our cultures are more âworthyâ of preservation or w/e bc we were âadvancedâ by european standards
letâs please bust the myth that western europe was somehow this bastion of technology and knowledge (bc it is absolutely untrue) WITHOUT devaluing indigenous cultures that didnât create long-standing monuments or what have you
I touch da bunnyÂ
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What have the protests accomplished?
5/26Â 4 officers fired for murdering George Floyd 5/27 Charges dropped for Kenneth Walker (Breonna Taylorâs boyfriend, who police accused of killing her) 5/28 University of Minnesota cancels contract with police 5/28 3rd precinct police station neutralized by protesters 5/28 Minneapolis transit union refuses to bring police officers to protests or transport arrested protesters 5/29 Activists commandeer Minneapolis hotel to provide shelter to homeless 5/29 Former officer Chauvin arrested and charged with murder 5/29Â Louisville Mayor suspends âno-knockâ warrants 5/30Â US Embassies across Africa condemn police murder of George Floyd 5/30Â Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison takes over prosecution of the murdering officer 5/30Â Transport Workers Union refuses to help NYPD transport arrests protesters 5/30Â Maryland lawmakers forming work group on police reform, accountability 5/31Â 2 abusive officers fired for pulling a couple out of their car and tasing them - Atlanta, GA 6/1Â Minneapolis public schools end contract with police 6/1Â Confederate monument removed after being toppled by protesters - Birmingham, AL 6/1 CA prosecutors launch campaign to stop DAs from accepting police union money 6/1 Tulsa Mayor agrees to not renew Live PD contract 6/1Â Louisville police chief fired after shooting of David Mcatee 6/1 Congress begins bipartisan push to cut off police access to military gear 6/1 Atlanta announces plans to create a task force and public database to track police brutality in metro Atlanta area 6/2 Minneapolis AFL-CIO calls for resignation of police union president Bob Kroll, a vocal white supremest 6/2Â Pittsburgh transit union announces refusal to transport police officers or arrest protesters 6/2Â Racist ex-mayor Frank Rizzo statue removed in Philadelphia 6/2Â 6 abusive officers charged for violence against residents and protesters - Atlanta, GA 6/2Â Civil rights investigation of Minneapolis Police Dept launched 6/2Â San Francisco resolution to prevent law enforcement from hiring officers with history of misconduct 6/2Â Survey indicates that 64% of those polled are sympathetic to protesters, 47% disapprove of police handling of the protests, and 54% think the burning down of the Minneapolis police precinct was fully or partially justified 6/2 Trenton NJ announces policing reforms 6/2Â Minneapolis City Council members consider disbanding the police 6/2Â Confederate statue removed from Alexandria, VA 6/3 Officer fired for tweets promoting violence against protesters - Denver, CO 6/3 Walker Art Center and the Minneapolis Institute of Art cut ties with the MPD 6/3Â Chauvin charges upgraded to second degree murder, remaining 3 officers also charged and taken into custody 6/3Â Richmond VA Mayor Stoney announces RPD reform measures: establish âMarcusâ alert for folks experiencing mental health crises, establish independent Citizen Review Board, an ordinance to remove Confederate monuments, and implement racial equity study 6/3Â County commissioners deny proposal for $23 million expansion of Fulton County jail 6/3 Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board unanimously votes to sever ties with MPD 6/3Â Seattle withdraws request to end federal oversight/consent decree of police department 6/3Â Breonna Taylorâs case reopened 6/3 Louisville police department (Breonna Taylorâs murderers) will now be under review from an outside agency, which will include review on training, bias-free policing and accountability 6/3 Colorado lawmakers introduce a police reform bill that includes body cam laws, repealing the âfleeing felonâ statute, and banning chokeholds 6/3 Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti announces plans to reduce funding to police department by $150M and instead invest in minority communities 6/4 Virginia governor announces plans to remove Robert E. Lee statue from Richmond 6/4Â Portland schools superintendent discontinues presence of armed police officers in schools 6/4Â MBTA (Metro Boston) board orders that buses wont transport police to protests, or protesters to police 6/4 King County Labor Federation issues ultimatum to police unions: admit to and address racism in Seattle PD, or be removed 6/5Â City of Minneapolis bans all chokeholds by police 6/5Â Racist ex-mayor Hubbard statue removed - Dearborn, MI 6/5Â NFL condemns racism and admits it should have listened to playersâ protests 6/5Â California Governor Gavin Newsom calls for statewide use-of-force standard made along with community leaders and ban on carotid holds 6/5 2 Buffalo officers suspended within a day of pushing 75 year old protester to the ground, and lying about it 6/5Â 2 NYPD officers suspended after videos of violence to protesters 6/5Â The US Marines bans display of the Confederate flag 6/5Â Dallas adopts a âduty to interveneâ rule that requires officers to stop other cops who are engaging in excessive use of force 6/5Â Dallas City Manager T.C. Broadnax releases an 11-point action plan for immediate police reforms 6/6Â Statue of Confederate general Williams Carter Wickham torn down - Richmond, VA 6/6Â 2 Buffalo officers charged with second-degree assault for shoving elderly man 6/6Â San Francisco Mayor London Breed announces effort to defund police and redirect funds to Black community 6/7Â Frank Rizzo mural removed, to be replaced with new artwork - Philadelphia, PA 6/7Â Minneapolis City Council members announce intent to disband the police department, invest in proven community-led public safety 6/7Â Protesters in Bristol topple statue of slave trader Edward Colston, throw it in the river 6/7Â NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio vows for the first time to cut funding for NYPD, redirect to social services 6/7Â A Virginia police officer faces charges after using a stun gun on a black man 6/8 NY State Assembly passes the Eric Garner Anti-Chokehold Act 6/8Â Democrats in Congress unveil a bill to rein in bias and excessive force in policing 6/8Â Black lawmakers block a legislative session in Pennsylvania to demand action on police reform 6/8Â France bans police use of chokeholds 6/8 Seattle council members join calls to defund police department 6/8Â Boston reevaluates how it funds police department 6/8Â Honolulu Police Commission nominees voice support for more transparency, reforms 6/8Â Rights groups and Floydâs family call for a UN inquiry into American policing and help with systemic police reform
No, itâs not enough, but this is only the beginning. Keep fighting!!!
(This list comes from Mara Ahmedâs blog post and was compiled by Fahd Ahmed; I added sources and new entries. Please reblog with further additions.)
A story that may have relevance for others, or then again, maybe not:
When I was in college, about ten or so years ago, I was a history major. I wanted to learn to dance, so I joined a swing dance club on campus. To my surprise, this club had about twice as many men as women (in high school, the last time Iâd tried dancing, the ratio had gone the other wayâlots of girls, and boys only that you could drag by their ears).
But apparently, there had been some kind of word spread specifically to the STEM guys that dance was a way that they could meet girls.
So anyway. I joined the swing dance club, and met a few guys. And at one point, when socializing with the guys outside of dance class, one of them asked me what my research was on. (I had already established that I was an honors history student doing a thesis, just as he had established that he was an honors⌠Iâm not sure if he was CS or Math, but it was one of those.)
So I gave him the thumbnail sketch of my research. Now, to be clear, an honors senior thesis, while nothing like what a graduate student would do, was still fairly in-depth. I had to translate primary sources from the original late-Classical Latin. (My professor said, basically, that while there were plenty of translations of my source material, that Iâd only be able to comfortably trust them if I had at least made a stab at a translation of my own. And he was right.) And there was so much secondary material, often contradictory, that I had been carefully sorting through.
But I was able to sift it into a three-sentence summary of my senior thesis work, you know, as one does.
So I gave him that summary, and then askedâsince he was also an undergraduate senior doing an honors thesisâwhat his research was on.
âOh,â he said, âyou wouldnât understand it.â
Reader, I went home in a frothing rage. Because I had thought we were playing one gameâa game of âletâs talk about what weâre passionate about!ââ and he had been playing another game, which was, one-upsmanship. I had done my best to give a basically understandable brief of my researchâand he had used that against me. As if my research, my painstaking translation, my digging through archives and ILLs of esoteric works, my reading of ten thousand articles in Speculum (yes, the pre-eminent medievalist journal in North America is called Speculum, Iâm sorry, itâs hilarious/sad but also true), and then my effort to sum it up for him, was nothing. Because his research into some kind of algorithm or other was just too complex for my tiny brain to conceive of. Because I just couldnât possibly understand his work.
Now, the important note here is that the person I went home to was my senior year roommate. She was a graduate studentânormally undergrads and graduate students couldnât be roommates, but weâd been friends for years, and the tenured faculty-in-residence used his powers for good and permitted us to be roommates that year. Anyway. My senior year roommate was basically⌠in retrospect I think possibly an avatar of Athena. She was six feet tall, blonde, attractive in a muscular athletic way, a rock climber and racquetball player, sweet but sharp, extremely socially awkward, exceptionally kind even when it cost her to be kind, and an incredibly brilliant computer science major who spent most of her time working on extremely complicated mathematical algorithms. (Yes, I was a little in love with her, why do you ask? But she was as straight as a length of rope, and is now happily married, and so am I, so it worked out.)
(Still, yes, she is my mental image of Athena, to this day.)
Anyway, I came home in a frothing rage to my roommate, the Athena avatar. And I said, âHe made me feel like such an idiot, that I could sum up my research to him but his research was just too smart for stupid little me.â
And she shut her book, and smiled at me, with her dark eyes and her high cheekbones and her bright hair, and said, âIf he canât explain his research to you, then heâs not nearly as smart as he thinks he is.â
Now I hesitated, because Iâd be in college long enough to have sort of bought into the ridiculous idea that if you couldnât dazzle them with your brilliance, you should baffle them with your bullshit. But she said, âLook, Iâve been doing work on computer science algorithms that have significantly complicated mathematical underpinnings. What do I do?â
And I said, âGenetic algorithmsâthat is, self-optimizing algorithmsâfor prioritization, specifically for scheduling.â
âRight,â she said. âYou couldnât code them because youâre not a computer scientist or a mathematician. But you can understand what I do. If someone canât explain it like that, it isnât a problem with you as a person. Itâs a problem with them. They either donât understand it as well as they think they doâor they want to make you feel inferior. And neither is a positive thing.â
So. There.
If you are looking into something and have a question, and someone treats you like an idiot for not understanding right away⌠here is what I have to say: maybe it isnât you who is the idiot.
ATTN: ALL COLLEGE STUDENTS EVERYWHERE PLS READ
HEED ATHENA AVATARâS WORDS BBCAKES EVERYWHERE.
As an academic working in academia: this this this. Never buy into the elitist bullcrap of âoh, you wouldnât understand.â And never perpetuate that crap yourself, either out of pretension or even simple laziness. If you canât explain it to a ten-year-old, go back and hit the books again cause youâre not there yet.

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what a bunch of idiots. I love them
Via my twitter. Mary Mallon and those around her might not have known asymptomatic carriers existed, but we do. Wash your hands, practice social distancing, and stay safe and responsible.
Hey cases are rising again
Wear your fucking mask even if you donât feel sick I am begging you