Madi

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Hi ladybug ^_^ oh man. (I switch between referring to 'old q' as tulip and that. sorey)

What's incredibly interesting about the Stormz and Q talk in general to me, is how much they seem to go in circles around eachother. Stormz tries to understand the path Q has taken and relates it back to who he was, and in that, he ends to boiling it down to 'good' and 'Bad.' Stormz tries to explain to Quakitus that nothing will matter in the end and Quakitus agrees, calls it the reason why she's doing her thing in the first place.

Stormz has progressed alot in these past few months, and he's in a much more healtheir position, but he does fall back on a Black and White mindset ever so often. To Stormz, nothing will matter in the end so why spend your time in destructive acts that hurt you and the people around you? To Quakitus, nothing will matter in the end so just be yourself and do whatever you've wanted to do or want to do.

Stormz explicitly reviews the change in Q's behavior as 'good person' and 'bad person'. I believe he does this not mainly because of ignorance towards nuance, but because of his own self-projection onto Quakitus.

Stormz says, in the stream, that Quakitus is who he strives to be (the quakitus he knew) and compares the Quakitus of now to who he used to be. Stormz is laying the baseline down of who he wants to be by using Quakitus(tulip, in this case) and references his memories of tulip because well, simply, Stormz admires Quakitus.

Seeing Quakitus take on such a mindset that mirrors who Stormz used to be obviously affects him alot. Also, Stormz cares about Quakitus, and has gotten alot better at not immediately refuting his attachment or care toward others. His 'war' against Quakitus is to bring back the 'old him' but in the same turn, he asks Quakitus to keep that person buried because Stormz won't hold back.

I think what Stormz meant by this is that, he wants to not only bring back the old Q, but to have this Quakitus accept that old Q as well. but, he doesn't want to face that old Q because of that obvious attachment he has to her. Stormz hasn't quite gotten over or even processed torchblossom to a good extent, so it's pretty dubious how he'd react to Tulip, and i think he knows that.

I dunno, Stormz's mindset here is of course very flawed with how he goes about it, considering his ego going through the roof in the middle of the conversation LOL

When we (blissblrcord) made the duo name for Nem and Stormz a couple months ago we had no idea that they would become real but by god are we happy they did. The duo name we gave them, Retrograde, means moving, occurring, or performing in a backward direction. Or tending toward or resulting in a worse or previous state. Stormz and Nem are the two characters on the server who are defined by how steeped in the past they are, how much they regress back and forth and back and forth and back throughout their story. 

From the moment Stormz joined bliss, Nem and Stormz did not have a positive relationship (even if one-sided at the start). Stormz got recruited by Dol9hin to Horizon to help fight LE because he was a strong player and suddenly he was getting treated better by Dol9hin than Nem. Nem, the teammate Dol9hin had since she joined, who’s run into battle after battle after battle with her. This was the beginning of Nem’s hatred of Stormz (who was oblivious at the time). Nem was jealous and Stormz’s arrogant “I do what I want” attitude certainly didn’t help. Dol9hin even gave a mace to Stormz. A mace. One of the mythics they had been fighting for months to get ahold of and she gave it to someone who just joined the team. Nem was jealous of Stormz for having Dol9hin’s attention, he projected his anger toward Dol9hin not consulting him onto Stormz. And yet when Stormz gem was broken, Nem also gave Stormz energy for Dol9hin because he was Dol9hin’s friend.

 Stormz at the time wanted to defeat LE because they were “villains” but mostly for the power defeating LE would give him. The tidal changing point for their relationship which turned it from one-sided petty dislike and projection to actual hatred was Stormz’s gembreak. After Stormz’s gembreak, Stormz felt used. He didn’t feel like team ragebait cared at all for anything he was doing to help them and Stormz was getting tired of constantly sitting around waiting to fight LE over and over and over. He felt powerless. He felt desperate. And worst of all, as Mugm said, he felt helpless. His sadness turned to rage and paranoia. So when he found Nem and Whatmax at his base, he immediately assumed the worst (and he just wanted to take a fight he could actually win for once) and attacked them. Despite Nem being one of the people to lend Stormz energy to repair his gem, he attacked them and even called Mugm for help. Mugm of all people. Their enemy. 

This interaction sparked the hatred between retrograde and as Stormz grew angrier and angrier and became closer with Mugm; the hatred only grew. Stormz saw team ragebait as a whole as dishonorable, cowardly, brainless pawns of Dol9hin who deserved nothing but death. And as TE progressed and he spent more time with Mugm, Stormz was fully regressing into a mindset similar to his infuse disciple mindset just with less care about the server. Nem believed Stormz was ungrateful. Team ragebait had helped him restore his gem, they gave him a mace, and they helped him in fights. Nem had been on the server for so long now and had suffered for it, yet he wasn’t going around whining that the server should all die. He considered Stormz’s constant wallowing in his issues a nuisance and looked down upon how Stormz only ever hurt those who helped him (namely Nem and team ragebait, also Q later). Stormz joining Total Eclipse confirmed to Nem that his opinions on Stormz were correct. When Stormz joined Torchblossom, Nem tolerated Stormz because he was friends with Quakitus but he still hated him because he was still working with LE. It did not help that Torchblossom was a minefield of arguments and misunderstandings and Stormz would constantly lash out at Quakitus. Stormz thought the same way of Nem, especially since Nem was one of the people who broke Silva’s gem. 

For Stormz, Torchblossom was a constant back and forth. Regression and growth swinging repeatedly like a pendulum. TE breaking up like it did and the contract he made with TE didn’t help either. Stormz didn’t know who he was or what he wanted anymore, what he was fighting for. Was it to be a protector and protect TB? Was it to gain power so no one could hurt him and he could crush the server? Was it both? Was it neither? This uncertainty was displayed obviously with his black and white wings story arc which he even directly said represented pride (black wings) and humility (white wings). The TE contract ending and his promise with Mugm made him believe “Okay. I want power and I care for no one but myself. That’s who I am and who I’ve always been.” This lock-in on one extreme resulted in his argument with Quakitus and Torchblossom dissolving as Stormz left. But when Stormz was confronted by everything Torchblossom was and his memories of Quakitus and Silva, he realized he was wrong. He did care about Quakitus and Silva and power wasn’t everything. But it was too late now and all he could do was give torchblossom a real proper end and try to make amends; which he did by giving them energy and writing them full books of apologies and explanations. Similarly, Nem as Horizon progressed, lost himself more and more. He leaned into Dol9hin’s ruthless careless nature and even enabled it. He neglected and ignored his old friends such as Lezy and Whatmax until he needed them for fights. He even initiated the Silva Horizon confrontation. It was only when Lezy’s gem almost broke and Lezy confronted Nem that Nem realized he didn’t even know he was or what he was fighting for anymore. Nem was confronted by everything Horizon was and his memories of both Dol9hin and the people he hurt, they both hurt. Nem made amends with Lezy and Whatmax by doing restorations for their gems and helping them. He deliberated and didn’t fight with Horizon for a week before deciding, for himself and others, to leave Horizon, to leave Dol9hin. 

Both Stormz and Nem lost themselves and hurt their friends in reckless pursuit of a goal which would give them recognition and power. They even both joined/made a team afterwards in order to have a fresh start (neohorizon for Stormz and sunflower for Nem) but were haunted by their old teammates throughout it (Meteorflower for Stormz and Dol9hin for Nem). And both Nem and Stormz are then abandoned by those teams. Nem left Dol9hin, the person he’s been teamed with for months and picked up the moment she joined, and joined Nezoshoki. Stormz left Nezoshoki, the person he joined the server for and picked him up the moment he joined, and joined Dol9hin. Both of them get knocked down over and over and over and yet get back up time and time again. When Nem loses his gem to Mugm, he gives up. He could have asked for help from Zenith, he didn’t have to take the fight, but he did. He felt powerless and guilty and helpless, he fought Mugm but he still let it happen. He gave up. When Stormz lost Heretic, he didn’t have to take the fight with Whatmax. He could have asked Silva for help or Pinity (even if he would not have helped) or even Dumb, but he didn’t. He was tired of being hunted, of feeling helpless despite holding a mythic, he just wanted to give up. After these moments, Stormz and Nem are at their worst they’ve ever been. They both feel like they can’t get back up and there is no use. And yet. They both get back up (even if Stormz crashes out a bit longer and hurts a few  people). 

At this point, Stormz and Nem hold a mutual dislike for each other (with Nem’s feelings being much stronger) but it's not really in the forefront of their mind. It isn’t until energy games that their dynamic finally changes. More specifically, the finale day of energy games. Despite Stormz being at his worst mentally before energy games, the event throwing him into the survival mindset where he has to fully think about every move he makes actually makes Stormz care less about grudges and more about survival and the optimal ending for the games. This led to, when Pinity made the rule for only teams of two, Nem and Stormz teaming up on the last day. Nem’s other teammates teamed up together and so Nem reached out to Stormz to team after Stormz’s last teammate in the event was eliminated. The team up started due to necessity because they both didn’t want Pinity to win and although Nem still disliked Stormz a bit, it had been awhile and he decided it could be fun. In Nem’s own words, “I used to be mad at Stormz for the Total Eclipse stuff. I kind of don’t care anymore in all honesty. Kind of feel for the guy so I don’t know… On the server, I’m indifferent to him. But if it came to an actual team I probably wouldn’t team with Stormz but because it's an alliance type of thing, I don’t mind that.” Nem is even sympathetic to Stormz now, but their history was never resolved. Neither Stormz nor Nem expect to win, Nem wants his teammates Hazel and Shaun to win and Stormz just doesn’t want Pinity to win. 

But what’s interesting is their first conversation they have in vc together after Nem distributes the orbitals he got to Hazel. Nem brings up how he’s hiding in a tunnel because he thought he heard Auratus and Stormz recognizes it as the tunnel where Dol9hin died during the mythic wars. This sparks a conversation about the mythic wars while they were on opposing sides. Stormz compares Total Eclipse to Pinity with Auratus, saying how they were not this bad and any concrete plan could have taken them down rather than the continuous just running at them. This sparks Nem to say, “Yeah no, what pissed me off is that I wanted to use Speed and Dolphin was like ‘ehh or you can use Astra’”. And Stormz even confirms, “Oh, no, Speed would have literally killed any of us. No windcharges the mace is useless… I was mad surprised that Dolphin was heavily against that.” For the very first time (at least on camera), Nem talks to someone about one of his biggest griefs with Dolphin during Horizon. When Nem proposed this plan to Dolphin during the mythic war, he was almost immediately rejected and it was just further proof that she didn’t listen to him or value his input/plans. Stormz confirming to Nem that Nem was right, not Dolphin, Nem was right, is so important. It supports that Nem’s grudge with Dolphin, his anger and his strategies, were correct. Stormz, who is one of the people most associated with speed gem, who was their direct enemy in Horizon, who used to be Dolphin’s ally/teammate, being the first to directly acknowledge that idea and straight up saying that it would have worked is like healing a wound, a grievance Nem has had for months and just let fester. 

Nem and Stormz end up being the only ones online that are still in the games for a bit so they start fighting Pinity. Although the fight starts awkward and quiet, they’re doing good and they start having fun. A rule is then imposed to mute everyone and the comms change even more. Nem actually starts to miss Stormz and says, “I’m enjoying teaming with Stormz. Pretty solid teammate.” Getting the chance to fight together, just them against a strong opponent, gives them the opportunity to naturally change the way they see each other; even if only a little. Pinity runs and Hazel calls Nem over to team with her instead (Shaun isn’t online and Hazel found Pinity when he ran). Nem even says, as he and Hazel are fighting and Hazel sighs over Stormz coming to watch the fight, “I won’t lie, Stormz grew on me today. Imma say it, Stormz grew on me today.” That one fight where Nem and Stormz barely and awkwardly spoke to each other before they got muted was enough to change how Nem sees Stormz. Ironically, a fight against an LE associated mythic holder which is how they first teamed in the beginning of Stormz’s time on Bliss. It was also enough to instill a respect for Nem in Stormz. This is displayed when Stormz makes the mace rule.  While Nem and Hazel are fighting Pinity for the third time, Stormz asks every player in the event that aren’t going to fight for energy in order to make this rule. Stormz, who attacks without thought, who takes rather than begs, who’s known to be a selfish asshole who helps only himself, asks for the energy. He asks for help. He does this to help Nem and Hazel. And it does. Hazel crafts the mace and seconds later they pop Pinity’s totem twice in a row. And that isn’t all Stormz does to help Nem and Hazel, he gives them materials for traders that allows Hazel to trade to life gem, heartlock Pinity on a lower heartcount by Stormz’s suggestion, and for Nem to finally kill Pinity.

 Even though Stormz is the only one left in games and their last opponent for victory, Nem refuses to instantly attack Stormz and instead let him keep the mythics he got from Pinity in exchange for eliminating him from the game. They decide in exchange for his help, the netherite mythic helmet, and Stormz letting them kill him to make them the winners of Energy games, they give him Auratus. Not only do they trust Stormz with a mythic, but he trusts them to not farm him for energy when they have his spawn, saying, “I trust y’all. Unironically, I trust ya’ll a lot. I feel like we all have respect for each other in this case. I’m gonna really hope you guys feel the same.” And Stormz is slain by specifically Nem using his sword named “May it never falter”. Nem’s sword, named after his will to never falter, to keep going no matter what, a trait that Nem shares with Stormz more than anyone else on the server, is what kills Stormz. A direct symbol that Stormz has decided to get back up and never let himself stay down like he did after losing Heretic again. Just like Nem after beginning The Path to Restoration to get his gem back when he named that sword. Stormz gaining the Auratus gem and Nem becoming the Astra gem are the turning points in their lives; where they decide it’s time to get back up and change, to never falter like that again.

After the deal is done, Stormz asks Nem if he would want to team next season because of how much fun they had today. He even says it reminded him of “prime Infuse”. For the first time, Stormz brings up infuse positively. Nem is the reason Stormz begins to think of his past, such as Infuse, positively instead of only remembering the bad. Nem agrees and they proceed to, multiple times after this, gush about how they cannot wait to team. In fact once Bunny Buddies officially win energy games, Nem messages Stormz, “Thank you man” and Stormz replies gushing about wanting to team next season so badly. It’s even brought up when Lezy and Nem talk later. Nem and Lezy are two people with similar reasons for disliking Stormz as they both helped him after his gembreak and they both were affected by him joining Total Eclipse. Lezy’s dislike is still there but Nem, after everything that just happened, practically defends Stormz to Lezy. Nem reasons for giving him Auratus to Lezy, “Auratus? I gave it to Stormz. You know what, like in all honesty, I feel like people won’t be too happy with that. But teaming with Stormz today, it kind of made me think differently of him. You know, the Total Eclipse stuff just kinda vanished away, if that makes sense. You feel me?”. Fighting together for one fight, one fight where their comms were half awkward and half muted, made Nem’s feelings towards Stormz change so drastically. Not only did Stormz change so much since Total Eclipse and during this event, but Nem got to truly see it; enough that his past grudges and anger faded away. Coincidentally, right after Nem says that, Stormz messages him once again about teaming next season. 

After energy games, Stormz makes the team Monarchy (Dumb, him, and Sans) and his team is allied with Bunny Buddies. This allyship and friendship is very valued from both sides. Nem starts speaking positively about Stormz (“Best friend Stormz!”) and Stormz offers his help whenever Bunny Buddies get into a fight. This bond is valued so deeply that when Quakitus pulls her IOU on Sans to get him to start hunting the netherite pieces, Stormz doesn’t even consider helping Sans, his own teammate, fight Hazel. In his own words, “ If I were to help Sans, Energy Games would mean completely nothing… the only reason I have auratus is because they (Bunny Buddies) are nice enough to (give Auratus to Stormz).” All of his development, all of his revelations, everything he worked for in energy games would not matter if he ruined his relationship with and attacked Bunny Buddies. He would refuse to help his own teammate because of how deeply he respects Bunny Buddies. 

Their alliance is finalized with a fight the day they try (unsuccessfully) to box Wyll’s logout. At first, it’s just Pika, Nem, and Stormz fucking around who don’t actually care that much about killing Wyll and are doing it for fun. But as they recruit more people (Q, Lezy, WM, Dumb, Shaun, Hazel) and when the rest of LE pull up and make it an actual fight, they commit to it. They realize that they can actually take this fight. For the first time since team ragebait, the server bands together against LE and actually succeeds. They end up able to break Pinity’s gem and eliminate a very dangerous opponent from LE’s side. Although the alliance reminds many on the server of team ragebait, it reminds them of it in a fond way rather than a negative one. Nem and Stormz especially reminisce on Horizon and how Dolphin taught them these techs. Nem even says to Stormz, “There's still a little bit of Horizon in us, you know what I mean (laughs)”. Not only does Nem get Stormz to start thinking about a dark part of past more fondly, but Stormz gets Nem to start thinking back to Horizon more positively; and even, just like Nem did with Stormz with infuse, begin to make new memories that remind them of that time but happy. Retrograde and Solarflare as whole heal a part of Nem and Stormz’s past that have been haunting them for months. Not only are they happy to fight together, everyone is taking care of each other no matter the pvp level, and Nem and Stormz joke to each other multiple times throughout the fight. One that stood out to me was Stormz joking to Nem, “Yo we won this one in a lot worse odds, Nem!”. Retrograde fighting Pinity together one time made Stormz confident enough to fight LE again. His friendship with Bunny Buddies also allows Stormz to make these new allies in Solarflare like Pika that are already friends with Bunny Buddies. Bunny Buddies are the bridge that gives Stormz more real good connections, friends, on the server. 

Stormz respects Bunny Buddies so much. Enough to not lie to them. Enough to tell the truth even when cornered and scared. Para have an argument and Dumb insists that for their team to work, Stormz must pick a goal and stick to it. No more back and forths, no more instantly going back on what he says minutes before. Stormz decides to keep his old promise to Mugm, he will try to kill everyone who doesn’t deserve this server if he gets gold gem. Bingeyy overhears this and snitches to Hazel. However due to the trust and respect built since and from energy games, Bunny Buddies decide to hear him out first and simply ask him about it. This conversation is the most important conversation Retrograde, and Bunny Buddies and Stormz, has. The first sign of trust and how much this means for Stormz is that when Nem suggests having the talk inside Stormz’s house, Stormz lets Bunny Buddies corner him inside his house. He doesn’t lash out or run away, he stands in the corner of his house facing them and stays calm. When Stormz starts explaining his reasoning, he cites how Bingey has been ruining his life and he can’t even fight with him despite having the numbers because, “ What’s going to happen to you guys if you get charge-creepered? or what’s gonna happen to Dumb?”. His two biggest worries are Bunny Buddies and Dumb getting hurt. He can’t stand how people like Bingey who hurt him and could hurt the people he cares for, Bunny Buddies and Dumb, can just walk around the server. Stormz then explains when Hazel asks where he draws the line that, “I don’t know maybe this is a really bad way to say it, but people who I think are morally right. Because Hazel, if you were to pick up the gold gem as well, I would want you to kill me. Because I don’t think, I don’t think, I can recover from what I used to do. I think I’m going to spend the rest of my time on this server recovering. I think I want to be honest with my feelings. I think I want to help you guys as much as I can with Auratus.” It’s that moment where Nem truly understands Stormz and his reasoning. Nem’s entire philosophy is second chances and Stormz doesn’t believe he deserves one. The first time Nem speaks up in the conversation since they started talking seriously is to ask, “You don’t think you deserve a second chance?”. Nem realizes that Stormz sorts himself in the same category as people who don’t deserve to play on the server. A same categorization Mugm used when he claimed people’s gems for gold gem. That same categorization that Nem volunteered his own gem to stop and Nem believed that he himself didn’t deserve to play on the server either.  

Stormz justifies that he’s working up to deserving a second chance and helping Bunny Buddies is how. Stormz believes that by helping Bunny Buddies with Auratus and helping them with their goal to stop LE, he can become a better person. A person like them. Bunny Buddies tell him he’s already halfway there. Stormz even tells them his realization that fully changes how he goes about life on the server a couple days later first, before even Dumb, “But I would always try to lie and fill like a space that people wanted but I didn’t realize that the like the space that was missing was just me.” Stormz has this same thought process fully accepted days later in the cinematic he does. But he tells Bunny Buddies this now and they support it. Hazel even tells him, “I like this new you, Stormz”. They like the true Stormz, not the one he molded himself into for others. Hazeli and Stormz compromise on giving the server 24 hours if he gets gold gem and the conversation ends happily. Stormz admits now that the serious part is over that he was terrified because, “because I didn’t want to lose you guys as allies.” He was terrified because Bunny Buddies mean so much to him. Bunny Buddies thank him for telling the truth, a testimony for how much Stormz has grown to be true to himself rather than what he believes others want. 

Right before Bunny Buddies leave, Shaun asks Stormz if he believes that she is worthy of playing on the server. Stormz instantly, before she even finishes asking, assures her that all of Bunny Buddies are worthy of playing on the server. But he mentions one thing to Nem specifically, “Nem, if you didn’t have the realization you did with Dolphin then.. You know. (Nem laughs: yeah-) but you realized and I realized and yeah, you’re good bro. All three of you guys are good.” The Nem of Horizon, the Nem that hurt people with barely a care, would not have deserved to live in Stormz’s eyes. Just like how the Stormz of Total Eclipse who did the same thing, was a horrible person in Nem’s eyes. Nem and Stormz have been bad people and regressed over and over and hurt others, but they changed. They grew. They realized what, who, they didn’t want to be and became someone better. Retrograde are a pair that whole’s character are defined by their healing, their regressing, and their growth. For Stormz, Nem is such a huge factor in how he was able to grow into the person he is now, his true self. Days later, when Stormz does a whole cinematic on who he is, the turning point is energy games. Stormz says, “Then Energy Games happened and I remembered all those feelings, every single one. The pure passion for defeating the person in front of me. I didn’t care who I was going to become. I didn’t care what my relation with people was going to be. The only thing I did realistically care about was the people that were close to me (Stormz and Nem side-by-side as they face Pinity on screen). I was just going to be me. And it worked. I watched my impact in front of my eyes. From allowing maces when just the night before everyone was saying no. It was something that I wanted to do. Then the trader that I gave Hazel, watching her kill Pinity, I don’t know if that was going to happen without me. And to be rewarded with Auratus. It made me remember that very same feeling…  I’m just me. I’m a player who has control over my gem. And inevitably when I die, I’ll still just be me.” Energy games and everything with Bunny Buddies during them was what made Stormz begin to realize who he actually is. Who he can be and who he wants to become. How he wants to heal, to grow. That last sentence Stormz says is a sentiment Nem also believes for himself. They are both satisfied with who they are now, their true selves, enough that if they were to die today, they would be fine with it. 

Even the actions Stormz takes after that to show he’s serious are a parallel to Nem. Stormz blows up the carrot field/Silva tent to represent destroying bonds, destroying the past, to show those old bonds don’t mean anything to him now, and to represent moving on. Stormz in the past even took part in blowing up Torchblossom Island so that they could move on and destroy that past. Nem blew up his reflection room, the old Horizon base, all his items in his echest, withered many old builds with Nezo, friendship island, and even the old brotherhood base all for similar reasons. They both mean that destruction of the past, but at the same time they have such a hard time moving past it. Nem destroyed so many representations of Horizon and yet he still brings up Dol9hin and projects his relationship with Dol9hin onto others. Stormz destroyed the tent made by Silva and yet he has mixed feelings on his relationship with Meteorflower. Stormz destroyed the carrot field which sparked the TE breakup and yet he still relies on the promise he made to Mugm for a part of his sense of self and goals. Nem and Stormz have grown so much, but they’re not perfect. They regress and fall back on old trauma, Nem projecting him and Dol9hin onto Stormz and Dumb and Stormz ranting all of his terrified feelings to Dumb not letting her talk, but they get back up again. They don’t let themselves fall all the way to the ground. Not anymore.

When we (blissblrcord) made the duo name for Nem and Stormz a couple months ago we had no idea that they would become real but by god are we happy they did. The duo name we gave them, Retrograde, means moving, occurring, or performing in a backward direction. Or tending toward or resulting in a worse or previous state. Stormz and Nem are the two characters on the server who are defined by how steeped in the past they are, how much they regress back and forth and back and forth and back throughout their story. 

From the moment Stormz joined bliss, Nem and Stormz did not have a positive relationship (even if one-sided at the start). Stormz got recruited by Dol9hin to Horizon to help fight LE because he was a strong player and suddenly he was getting treated better by Dol9hin than Nem. Nem, the teammate Dol9hin had since she joined, who’s run into battle after battle after battle with her. This was the beginning of Nem’s hatred of Stormz (who was oblivious at the time). Nem was jealous and Stormz’s arrogant “I do what I want” attitude certainly didn’t help. Dol9hin even gave a mace to Stormz. A mace. One of the mythics they had been fighting for months to get ahold of and she gave it to someone who just joined the team. Nem was jealous of Stormz for having Dol9hin’s attention, he projected his anger toward Dol9hin not consulting him onto Stormz. And yet when Stormz gem was broken, Nem also gave Stormz energy for Dol9hin because he was Dol9hin’s friend.

 Stormz at the time wanted to defeat LE because they were “villains” but mostly for the power defeating LE would give him. The tidal changing point for their relationship which turned it from one-sided petty dislike and projection to actual hatred was Stormz’s gembreak. After Stormz’s gembreak, Stormz felt used. He didn’t feel like team ragebait cared at all for anything he was doing to help them and Stormz was getting tired of constantly sitting around waiting to fight LE over and over and over. He felt powerless. He felt desperate. And worst of all, as Mugm said, he felt helpless. His sadness turned to rage and paranoia. So when he found Nem and Whatmax at his base, he immediately assumed the worst (and he just wanted to take a fight he could actually win for once) and attacked them. Despite Nem being one of the people to lend Stormz energy to repair his gem, he attacked them and even called Mugm for help. Mugm of all people. Their enemy. 

This interaction sparked the hatred between retrograde and as Stormz grew angrier and angrier and became closer with Mugm; the hatred only grew. Stormz saw team ragebait as a whole as dishonorable, cowardly, brainless pawns of Dol9hin who deserved nothing but death. And as TE progressed and he spent more time with Mugm, Stormz was fully regressing into a mindset similar to his infuse disciple mindset just with less care about the server. Nem believed Stormz was ungrateful. Team ragebait had helped him restore his gem, they gave him a mace, and they helped him in fights. Nem had been on the server for so long now and had suffered for it, yet he wasn’t going around whining that the server should all die. He considered Stormz’s constant wallowing in his issues a nuisance and looked down upon how Stormz only ever hurt those who helped him (namely Nem and team ragebait, also Q later). Stormz joining Total Eclipse confirmed to Nem that his opinions on Stormz were correct. When Stormz joined Torchblossom, Nem tolerated Stormz because he was friends with Quakitus but he still hated him because he was still working with LE. It did not help that Torchblossom was a minefield of arguments and misunderstandings and Stormz would constantly lash out at Quakitus. Stormz thought the same way of Nem, especially since Nem was one of the people who broke Silva’s gem. 

For Stormz, Torchblossom was a constant back and forth. Regression and growth swinging repeatedly like a pendulum. TE breaking up like it did and the contract he made with TE didn’t help either. Stormz didn’t know who he was or what he wanted anymore, what he was fighting for. Was it to be a protector and protect TB? Was it to gain power so no one could hurt him and he could crush the server? Was it both? Was it neither? This uncertainty was displayed obviously with his black and white wings story arc which he even directly said represented pride (black wings) and humility (white wings). The TE contract ending and his promise with Mugm made him believe “Okay. I want power and I care for no one but myself. That’s who I am and who I’ve always been.” This lock-in on one extreme resulted in his argument with Quakitus and Torchblossom dissolving as Stormz left. But when Stormz was confronted by everything Torchblossom was and his memories of Quakitus and Silva, he realized he was wrong. He did care about Quakitus and Silva and power wasn’t everything. But it was too late now and all he could do was give torchblossom a real proper end and try to make amends; which he did by giving them energy and writing them full books of apologies and explanations. Similarly, Nem as Horizon progressed, lost himself more and more. He leaned into Dol9hin’s ruthless careless nature and even enabled it. He neglected and ignored his old friends such as Lezy and Whatmax until he needed them for fights. He even initiated the Silva Horizon confrontation. It was only when Lezy’s gem almost broke and Lezy confronted Nem that Nem realized he didn’t even know he was or what he was fighting for anymore. Nem was confronted by everything Horizon was and his memories of both Dol9hin and the people he hurt, they both hurt. Nem made amends with Lezy and Whatmax by doing restorations for their gems and helping them. He deliberated and didn’t fight with Horizon for a week before deciding, for himself and others, to leave Horizon, to leave Dol9hin. 

Both Stormz and Nem lost themselves and hurt their friends in reckless pursuit of a goal which would give them recognition and power. They even both joined/made a team afterwards in order to have a fresh start (neohorizon for Stormz and sunflower for Nem) but were haunted by their old teammates throughout it (Meteorflower for Stormz and Dol9hin for Nem). And both Nem and Stormz are then abandoned by those teams. Nem left Dol9hin, the person he’s been teamed with for months and picked up the moment she joined, and joined Nezoshoki. Stormz left Nezoshoki, the person he joined the server for and picked him up the moment he joined, and joined Dol9hin. Both of them get knocked down over and over and over and yet get back up time and time again. When Nem loses his gem to Mugm, he gives up. He could have asked for help from Zenith, he didn’t have to take the fight, but he did. He felt powerless and guilty and helpless, he fought Mugm but he still let it happen. He gave up. When Stormz lost Heretic, he didn’t have to take the fight with Whatmax. He could have asked Silva for help or Pinity (even if he would not have helped) or even Dumb, but he didn’t. He was tired of being hunted, of feeling helpless despite holding a mythic, he just wanted to give up. After these moments, Stormz and Nem are at their worst they’ve ever been. They both feel like they can’t get back up and there is no use. And yet. They both get back up (even if Stormz crashes out a bit longer and hurts a few  people). 

At this point, Stormz and Nem hold a mutual dislike for each other (with Nem’s feelings being much stronger) but it's not really in the forefront of their mind. It isn’t until energy games that their dynamic finally changes. More specifically, the finale day of energy games. Despite Stormz being at his worst mentally before energy games, the event throwing him into the survival mindset where he has to fully think about every move he makes actually makes Stormz care less about grudges and more about survival and the optimal ending for the games. This led to, when Pinity made the rule for only teams of two, Nem and Stormz teaming up on the last day. Nem’s other teammates teamed up together and so Nem reached out to Stormz to team after Stormz’s last teammate in the event was eliminated. The team up started due to necessity because they both didn’t want Pinity to win and although Nem still disliked Stormz a bit, it had been awhile and he decided it could be fun. In Nem’s own words, “I used to be mad at Stormz for the Total Eclipse stuff. I kind of don’t care anymore in all honesty. Kind of feel for the guy so I don’t know… On the server, I’m indifferent to him. But if it came to an actual team I probably wouldn’t team with Stormz but because it's an alliance type of thing, I don’t mind that.” Nem is even sympathetic to Stormz now, but their history was never resolved. Neither Stormz nor Nem expect to win, Nem wants his teammates Hazel and Shaun to win and Stormz just doesn’t want Pinity to win. 

But what’s interesting is their first conversation they have in vc together after Nem distributes the orbitals he got to Hazel. Nem brings up how he’s hiding in a tunnel because he thought he heard Auratus and Stormz recognizes it as the tunnel where Dol9hin died during the mythic wars. This sparks a conversation about the mythic wars while they were on opposing sides. Stormz compares Total Eclipse to Pinity with Auratus, saying how they were not this bad and any concrete plan could have taken them down rather than the continuous just running at them. This sparks Nem to say, “Yeah no, what pissed me off is that I wanted to use Speed and Dolphin was like ‘ehh or you can use Astra’”. And Stormz even confirms, “Oh, no, Speed would have literally killed any of us. No windcharges the mace is useless… I was mad surprised that Dolphin was heavily against that.” For the very first time (at least on camera), Nem talks to someone about one of his biggest griefs with Dolphin during Horizon. When Nem proposed this plan to Dolphin during the mythic war, he was almost immediately rejected and it was just further proof that she didn’t listen to him or value his input/plans. Stormz confirming to Nem that Nem was right, not Dolphin, Nem was right, is so important. It supports that Nem’s grudge with Dolphin, his anger and his strategies, were correct. Stormz, who is one of the people most associated with speed gem, who was their direct enemy in Horizon, who used to be Dolphin’s ally/teammate, being the first to directly acknowledge that idea and straight up saying that it would have worked is like healing a wound, a grievance Nem has had for months and just let fester. 

Nem and Stormz end up being the only ones online that are still in the games for a bit so they start fighting Pinity. Although the fight starts awkward and quiet, they’re doing good and they start having fun. A rule is then imposed to mute everyone and the comms change even more. Nem actually starts to miss Stormz and says, “I’m enjoying teaming with Stormz. Pretty solid teammate.” Getting the chance to fight together, just them against a strong opponent, gives them the opportunity to naturally change the way they see each other; even if only a little. Pinity runs and Hazel calls Nem over to team with her instead (Shaun isn’t online and Hazel found Pinity when he ran). Nem even says, as he and Hazel are fighting and Hazel sighs over Stormz coming to watch the fight, “I won’t lie, Stormz grew on me today. Imma say it, Stormz grew on me today.” That one fight where Nem and Stormz barely and awkwardly spoke to each other before they got muted was enough to change how Nem sees Stormz. Ironically, a fight against an LE associated mythic holder which is how they first teamed in the beginning of Stormz’s time on Bliss. It was also enough to instill a respect for Nem in Stormz. This is displayed when Stormz makes the mace rule.  While Nem and Hazel are fighting Pinity for the third time, Stormz asks every player in the event that aren’t going to fight for energy in order to make this rule. Stormz, who attacks without thought, who takes rather than begs, who’s known to be a selfish asshole who helps only himself, asks for the energy. He asks for help. He does this to help Nem and Hazel. And it does. Hazel crafts the mace and seconds later they pop Pinity’s totem twice in a row. And that isn’t all Stormz does to help Nem and Hazel, he gives them materials for traders that allows Hazel to trade to life gem, heartlock Pinity on a lower heartcount by Stormz’s suggestion, and for Nem to finally kill Pinity.

 Even though Stormz is the only one left in games and their last opponent for victory, Nem refuses to instantly attack Stormz and instead let him keep the mythics he got from Pinity in exchange for eliminating him from the game. They decide in exchange for his help, the netherite mythic helmet, and Stormz letting them kill him to make them the winners of Energy games, they give him Auratus. Not only do they trust Stormz with a mythic, but he trusts them to not farm him for energy when they have his spawn, saying, “I trust y’all. Unironically, I trust ya’ll a lot. I feel like we all have respect for each other in this case. I’m gonna really hope you guys feel the same.” And Stormz is slain by specifically Nem using his sword named “May it never falter”. Nem’s sword, named after his will to never falter, to keep going no matter what, a trait that Nem shares with Stormz more than anyone else on the server, is what kills Stormz. A direct symbol that Stormz has decided to get back up and never let himself stay down like he did after losing Heretic again. Just like Nem after beginning The Path to Restoration to get his gem back when he named that sword. Stormz gaining the Auratus gem and Nem becoming the Astra gem are the turning points in their lives; where they decide it’s time to get back up and change, to never falter like that again.

After the deal is done, Stormz asks Nem if he would want to team next season because of how much fun they had today. He even says it reminded him of “prime Infuse”. For the first time, Stormz brings up infuse positively. Nem is the reason Stormz begins to think of his past, such as Infuse, positively instead of only remembering the bad. Nem agrees and they proceed to, multiple times after this, gush about how they cannot wait to team. In fact once Bunny Buddies officially win energy games, Nem messages Stormz, “Thank you man” and Stormz replies gushing about wanting to team next season so badly. It’s even brought up when Lezy and Nem talk later. Nem and Lezy are two people with similar reasons for disliking Stormz as they both helped him after his gembreak and they both were affected by him joining Total Eclipse. Lezy’s dislike is still there but Nem, after everything that just happened, practically defends Stormz to Lezy. Nem reasons for giving him Auratus to Lezy, “Auratus? I gave it to Stormz. You know what, like in all honesty, I feel like people won’t be too happy with that. But teaming with Stormz today, it kind of made me think differently of him. You know, the Total Eclipse stuff just kinda vanished away, if that makes sense. You feel me?”. Fighting together for one fight, one fight where their comms were half awkward and half muted, made Nem’s feelings towards Stormz change so drastically. Not only did Stormz change so much since Total Eclipse and during this event, but Nem got to truly see it; enough that his past grudges and anger faded away. Coincidentally, right after Nem says that, Stormz messages him once again about teaming next season. 

After energy games, Stormz makes the team Monarchy (Dumb, him, and Sans) and his team is allied with Bunny Buddies. This allyship and friendship is very valued from both sides. Nem starts speaking positively about Stormz (“Best friend Stormz!”) and Stormz offers his help whenever Bunny Buddies get into a fight. This bond is valued so deeply that when Quakitus pulls her IOU on Sans to get him to start hunting the netherite pieces, Stormz doesn’t even consider helping Sans, his own teammate, fight Hazel. In his own words, “ If I were to help Sans, Energy Games would mean completely nothing… the only reason I have auratus is because they (Bunny Buddies) are nice enough to (give Auratus to Stormz).” All of his development, all of his revelations, everything he worked for in energy games would not matter if he ruined his relationship with and attacked Bunny Buddies. He would refuse to help his own teammate because of how deeply he respects Bunny Buddies. 

Their alliance is finalized with a fight the day they try (unsuccessfully) to box Wyll’s logout. At first, it’s just Pika, Nem, and Stormz fucking around who don’t actually care that much about killing Wyll and are doing it for fun. But as they recruit more people (Q, Lezy, WM, Dumb, Shaun, Hazel) and when the rest of LE pull up and make it an actual fight, they commit to it. They realize that they can actually take this fight. For the first time since team ragebait, the server bands together against LE and actually succeeds. They end up able to break Pinity’s gem and eliminate a very dangerous opponent from LE’s side. Although the alliance reminds many on the server of team ragebait, it reminds them of it in a fond way rather than a negative one. Nem and Stormz especially reminisce on Horizon and how Dolphin taught them these techs. Nem even says to Stormz, “There's still a little bit of Horizon in us, you know what I mean (laughs)”. Not only does Nem get Stormz to start thinking about a dark part of past more fondly, but Stormz gets Nem to start thinking back to Horizon more positively; and even, just like Nem did with Stormz with infuse, begin to make new memories that remind them of that time but happy. Retrograde and Solarflare as whole heal a part of Nem and Stormz’s past that have been haunting them for months. Not only are they happy to fight together, everyone is taking care of each other no matter the pvp level, and Nem and Stormz joke to each other multiple times throughout the fight. One that stood out to me was Stormz joking to Nem, “Yo we won this one in a lot worse odds, Nem!”. Retrograde fighting Pinity together one time made Stormz confident enough to fight LE again. His friendship with Bunny Buddies also allows Stormz to make these new allies in Solarflare like Pika that are already friends with Bunny Buddies. Bunny Buddies are the bridge that gives Stormz more real good connections, friends, on the server. 

Stormz respects Bunny Buddies so much. Enough to not lie to them. Enough to tell the truth even when cornered and scared. Para have an argument and Dumb insists that for their team to work, Stormz must pick a goal and stick to it. No more back and forths, no more instantly going back on what he says minutes before. Stormz decides to keep his old promise to Mugm, he will try to kill everyone who doesn’t deserve this server if he gets gold gem. Bingeyy overhears this and snitches to Hazel. However due to the trust and respect built since and from energy games, Bunny Buddies decide to hear him out first and simply ask him about it. This conversation is the most important conversation Retrograde, and Bunny Buddies and Stormz, has. The first sign of trust and how much this means for Stormz is that when Nem suggests having the talk inside Stormz’s house, Stormz lets Bunny Buddies corner him inside his house. He doesn’t lash out or run away, he stands in the corner of his house facing them and stays calm. When Stormz starts explaining his reasoning, he cites how Bingey has been ruining his life and he can’t even fight with him despite having the numbers because, “ What’s going to happen to you guys if you get charge-creepered? or what’s gonna happen to Dumb?”. His two biggest worries are Bunny Buddies and Dumb getting hurt. He can’t stand how people like Bingey who hurt him and could hurt the people he cares for, Bunny Buddies and Dumb, can just walk around the server. Stormz then explains when Hazel asks where he draws the line that, “I don’t know maybe this is a really bad way to say it, but people who I think are morally right. Because Hazel, if you were to pick up the gold gem as well, I would want you to kill me. Because I don’t think, I don’t think, I can recover from what I used to do. I think I’m going to spend the rest of my time on this server recovering. I think I want to be honest with my feelings. I think I want to help you guys as much as I can with Auratus.” It’s that moment where Nem truly understands Stormz and his reasoning. Nem’s entire philosophy is second chances and Stormz doesn’t believe he deserves one. The first time Nem speaks up in the conversation since they started talking seriously is to ask, “You don’t think you deserve a second chance?”. Nem realizes that Stormz sorts himself in the same category as people who don’t deserve to play on the server. A same categorization Mugm used when he claimed people’s gems for gold gem. That same categorization that Nem volunteered his own gem to stop and Nem believed that he himself didn’t deserve to play on the server either.  

Stormz justifies that he’s working up to deserving a second chance and helping Bunny Buddies is how. Stormz believes that by helping Bunny Buddies with Auratus and helping them with their goal to stop LE, he can become a better person. A person like them. Bunny Buddies tell him he’s already halfway there. Stormz even tells them his realization that fully changes how he goes about life on the server a couple days later first, before even Dumb, “But I would always try to lie and fill like a space that people wanted but I didn’t realize that the like the space that was missing was just me.” Stormz has this same thought process fully accepted days later in the cinematic he does. But he tells Bunny Buddies this now and they support it. Hazel even tells him, “I like this new you, Stormz”. They like the true Stormz, not the one he molded himself into for others. Hazeli and Stormz compromise on giving the server 24 hours if he gets gold gem and the conversation ends happily. Stormz admits now that the serious part is over that he was terrified because, “because I didn’t want to lose you guys as allies.” He was terrified because Bunny Buddies mean so much to him. Bunny Buddies thank him for telling the truth, a testimony for how much Stormz has grown to be true to himself rather than what he believes others want. 

Right before Bunny Buddies leave, Shaun asks Stormz if he believes that she is worthy of playing on the server. Stormz instantly, before she even finishes asking, assures her that all of Bunny Buddies are worthy of playing on the server. But he mentions one thing to Nem specifically, “Nem, if you didn’t have the realization you did with Dolphin then.. You know. (Nem laughs: yeah-) but you realized and I realized and yeah, you’re good bro. All three of you guys are good.” The Nem of Horizon, the Nem that hurt people with barely a care, would not have deserved to live in Stormz’s eyes. Just like how the Stormz of Total Eclipse who did the same thing, was a horrible person in Nem’s eyes. Nem and Stormz have been bad people and regressed over and over and hurt others, but they changed. They grew. They realized what, who, they didn’t want to be and became someone better. Retrograde are a pair that whole’s character are defined by their healing, their regressing, and their growth. For Stormz, Nem is such a huge factor in how he was able to grow into the person he is now, his true self. Days later, when Stormz does a whole cinematic on who he is, the turning point is energy games. Stormz says, “Then Energy Games happened and I remembered all those feelings, every single one. The pure passion for defeating the person in front of me. I didn’t care who I was going to become. I didn’t care what my relation with people was going to be. The only thing I did realistically care about was the people that were close to me (Stormz and Nem side-by-side as they face Pinity on screen). I was just going to be me. And it worked. I watched my impact in front of my eyes. From allowing maces when just the night before everyone was saying no. It was something that I wanted to do. Then the trader that I gave Hazel, watching her kill Pinity, I don’t know if that was going to happen without me. And to be rewarded with Auratus. It made me remember that very same feeling…  I’m just me. I’m a player who has control over my gem. And inevitably when I die, I’ll still just be me.” Energy games and everything with Bunny Buddies during them was what made Stormz begin to realize who he actually is. Who he can be and who he wants to become. How he wants to heal, to grow. That last sentence Stormz says is a sentiment Nem also believes for himself. They are both satisfied with who they are now, their true selves, enough that if they were to die today, they would be fine with it. 

Even the actions Stormz takes after that to show he’s serious are a parallel to Nem. Stormz blows up the carrot field/Silva tent to represent destroying bonds, destroying the past, to show those old bonds don’t mean anything to him now, and to represent moving on. Stormz in the past even took part in blowing up Torchblossom Island so that they could move on and destroy that past. Nem blew up his reflection room, the old Horizon base, all his items in his echest, withered many old builds with Nezo, friendship island, and even the old brotherhood base all for similar reasons. They both mean that destruction of the past, but at the same time they have such a hard time moving past it. Nem destroyed so many representations of Horizon and yet he still brings up Dol9hin and projects his relationship with Dol9hin onto others. Stormz destroyed the tent made by Silva and yet he has mixed feelings on his relationship with Meteorflower. Stormz destroyed the carrot field which sparked the TE breakup and yet he still relies on the promise he made to Mugm for a part of his sense of self and goals. Nem and Stormz have grown so much, but they’re not perfect. They regress and fall back on old trauma, Nem projecting him and Dol9hin onto Stormz and Dumb and Stormz ranting all of his terrified feelings to Dumb not letting her talk, but they get back up again. They don’t let themselves fall all the way to the ground. Not anymore.

Also completely irrelevant but I love your new wings <3

oh dont worry ive had a house that i have lived in for some time now :D

That being said, I fear you have a lonely road ahead of you unless you feel like there’s someone who’d be willing to support you for who you are and stay with you. Do you think you’ll be able to find someone like that? They don’t have to be a hero or a villain, they just have to be free.

Disclaimer: this post is HEAVY on my interpretation of Wyll as a character. There’s also major spoilers for S3 as a whole, and discussion of S2 lost media as no vods had been saved from that time period.

Wyll is a big fat fucking liar. End of rant!

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No okay so Wyll is a major liar and I think everyone knows that. And if you don’t? Well now you do, that guy lies a lot. But most of his lies I can see is really centered around lying to himself. Though I don’t think Wyll as a character would agree with that take.

The reason I claim that most of his lies center around lying to himself is because of season 2. Season 2 Wyll was… using his own words “pathetic” and in my terms? Desperate.

A lot of his character is centered around being seen by other people as someone worth respecting. And that respect on bliss is normally gained by power or some kind of control.

It’s why I mentioned in the first part of this analysis I mentioned the fact he failed at a monopoly. A monoply is a clear cut sign of control over something, and control of something in mass means control over what leaves and enters. Essentially making the one at the top the sole power of the product

Which that shoots both of the ways to gain “respect” on bliss at the time. However his fail from this attempt being the first of many, was the domino that caused a spiral in his mind.

Wyll had a weird obsession with Mugm during s2. It was focused on the fact Mugm was someone to be feared because of how strong he was. So for awhile Wyll idolized him or I guess mave not idolized.

I don’t think Wyll has any “idols” but it was more of a want to catch up. A feeling of inferiority to Mugm despite being one of the people who gave Mugm most of his material power.

All of this inferiority stemming from something he couldn’t be made his egomaniac behaviors worse. Wyll has the perfect inflection and tone of the worst. person. alive. The milisecond you do something that he thinks it’s dumb he makes an entire argument against you just about it. He was like a twitter stan with how much he focused on shit. And the worst part is he’s stanning himself

Those egomaniac behaviors were born from inferiority. Not being able to get respect from strangers really messed him up, he wanted to be feared so bad but he just wasn’t someone to be scared of. I mean the second Mugm pointed a sword at him and told him to drop the netherite pants he folded.

I think another good point to make is why he betrayed Mugm is a more lore focused view then content. He betrayed Mugm because he realized Mugm wasn’t gonna give him anything, especially after “lying” to him about his knowledge of the gold gem.

And he felt he was entitled so some portion of power. Mainly because of his own insecurities driving a desire for power. And when he betrayed Mugm he became the thing he wanted all along. Someone with power, respect, and basically all of the success that he was aiming for this entire time.

So you would expect him to be satisfied with it right? I mean he himself said he was satisfied when he banned himself off the server. But no! This guy can’t help but hold grudges until he fucking dies!

I mean I don’t exactly blame him, but the second he sees Mugm in s3 he starts his petty strike once again. I actually find it really funny because I myself really like the cyborg/android interpretation of Wyll. Because for cyborgs/androids you don’t really think that a man struggle with them is just how human they are. But for Wyll he is so disgustingly human!

The reason I say he’s so disgustingly human is because early s3 he had NO HONOR. And im saying that as a long time fan, he was not only a coward who led to his team loosing fights. As well as a coward that continually fought with very large alliances and switching sides often.

During Dragon Games is really the most obvious of these dishonorable things. Agreeing to an alliance with Brotherhood and at the same time also helping SAD. Which like, yeah do whatever you need to do to win the egg. But this alliance swapping, fighting in large teams are things that we see in most recent bliss that Wyll speaks lowly of.

Which is intresting to me, because really the moment we see this change of thinking. From wanting to prove himself to the entire server that he deserved to hold the mace, to calling them cowards. Is that first 5v1 when he lost his mace, it was genuinely humbling in my view.

Not to mention that same day, after the Mugm alliance talk on the desert village when saving kae from being gembroken. Is really one of the first and what I view as a pivotal moment of how he views the people close to him.

I know that he already viewed kae and napa as less because they weren’t as helpful or active. But that fight when he kept muting to talk about kae was such a clear moment on how he views and judges those around him when it comes to how helpful they are to him. Wyll holds both comfortability and functionality in teammates.

It does make me laugh a little whenever Wyll speaks on his dislike for other players. No matter who he’s talking about if its Kae, Q, Dolphin, Storm, or even Nezo. I’ve noticed he subtly projects onto them in a way, whenever he talks aboit how disappointed he is in Q or Kae for not doing their own thing.

It’s almost like he’s projecting an image of his younger self not doing his own thing and instead surrounding everything he did around his server members view of him. Or if he ever says how cowardly Nezo is for how he percieved brotherhood and acted on that, depsite the fact he did something of a similar level both in s2 and in s3. Or how much of a coward and foo Dol9 is for fighting in large groups despite him doing their same thing earlier on the season.

I will say is that I know he doesn’t regret his actions. Espically in season 2, without his selfish behaviors in season two he wouldn’t be one of the strongest players in this season. And he acknowledges this fact also in his conversation with kantje.

But if not the hypocrisy of how he thinks, the irony of him thinking that way because of the lack of care is funny to me. And the topic of lack of care brings me to the next thing about Wyll that has caught my attention!

Wyll has stopped caring about what the server thinks of him. A direct opposition of what his s2 and early s3 mindset was, and sometime after being told about the wire fragments and manifestation he stopped caring. With the only opinion he cares about is what Mugm thinks

Actually I think it was probably closer to the formation of TE that he stopped caring. I say that because during the same day that Wyll was told about Manifestation during Trial 2.1, his one on one talk with Q that we don’t have full access to (PLEASE RELEASE THAT TALK I NEEEEED IT TO BE IN A VIDEO). Wyll claimed that Q said something along the lines of him “becoming a weapon”

And he had a direct reaction to that in the moment when the first TE fight happened. When he killed Q with his mace and he said “want to see how much of a weapon I can be?”… that. That was really the last time I remember something getting to Wyll. Like truly actually affecting him, now I don’t think he like lost sleep over the weapon comment. But it definitely did affect him in some kind of way. But after that? After that fight? I really can’t think of anything.

The election during Honored One really showed his lack of care. Normally, s2 and early s3 Wyll wouldve worried way more. Worried about how the server thought of him, that if he didn’t get enough votes he wasn’t worthy and that kind of Wyll would flip worth in his head so much he’d loose its meaning. But during Honored One as a whole Wyll himself said that he didn’t care if he was seen as a ‘Mugm Minion’ because the Honored One was something that Mugm cared about. And he did it FOR Mugm not for himself

Or that Puqi conversation he had when building the mesa LE base. When Puqi called Wyll out for his lies and schemes, and brings up season two. Wyll just outright tells Puqi, “I don’t have to care about their opinions”

Like. I guess that’s what we’re doing now??? Which I also think this ENTIRE thing, the hypocritical actions from fighting on a large team to complaining about it to even the sudden changing of not needing validation. Is it hypocritical or is it growth?

This last section is very VERY inspired by what Nemvevo said on bliss today (June 29th) when Nem said that he has no respect for Wyll, because he’s a hypocrite and actually pretty much says exactly what I said about his talent of fighting with large teams to win respect. But is it hypocritical for Wyll to despise Horizon or Solar Flare for the large team against four, or is it growth?

Wyll admitted himself that he’s never taken on a large outnumbered fight until he got the mace. And even then most of them were 2v1s against him, until the Horizon 5v1 that costed him his mace. And that’s when he really got to feel how it was on the other side of things. And also really when he started to look down on the server as a whole, calling Horizon specifically cowards multiple times.

Honestly in my eyes it’s more growth then him being a hypocrite. He got a taste of his own medicine, got to experience what it was like to be on the receiving end of unfair fights. And his view on being on large teams against someone like Mugm changed DRASTICALLY because of that. So I think the argument about his “hypocritical” view point being more on growth is extremely valid here.

Not to mention the fact Wyll doesn’t care anymore on how the server views him. Maybe early s3 Wyll would’ve had a part of him doubt himself, maybe even hate the situation. If he heard majority of the server thought of him as a fraud. But because he doesn’t care about those views anymore long winded conversations about his choices and opinions now rarely happen. With the kantje interview being really the last long conversation about his ideals and choices on the server.

So apart of me says he shot himself in the foot with not caring. That the apathy he feels about others opinions excluding Mugm only pepturate the views against him. And I guess sure, the fact he doesn’t care does make the opinions against him worse. Because he doesn’t. care. at all really doesn’t matter if he “shot himself in the foot” because as long as Mugm is alright with whatever Wyll is doing he’s satisfied.

But that also goes back into one of the first things I mentioned about placing Mugm on some form of pedestal to idolize. But also not idolization? He holds Mugms views higher than a normal teammate would normally, but it’s not like he’s afraid to push back against something Mugm says because he disagrees.

And Wyll probably really appreciates the fact he can disagree knowing the two will actually have a discussion. Not one or the other immediately folding when whatever point they say gets shut down by the other. I don’t want this to turn into a pure entropy side plot so I’ll keep most of my words about the two of them for another rant another day.

All together Wyll is both extremely contradictory to himself but also solid in his beliefs. It’s such a weird mix of the two it’s really hard to explain to someone who hasn’t watched his growth overtime. Having the growing apathy of his character is so different to what he was when he first joined.

I mean he’s now so bored he’s purposly nerfing himself by making a binding vow to just have fun. When in s2 the only time he “nerfed” himself was at finale, when he let his exploits get taken away knowing s2!Mugm lost his exploits as well for one final fight. But he did that knowing no matter the outcome he was going to be seen as some kind of “hero” because of him going against s2!Mugm.

The circumstances I feel are too different to compare really. I mean one moment was him knowing he made his goal, got respect, made Mugm run from a duel, and also was feared at the same time. While the other moment is him being so bored that he’s winning he feels he lost his spark. Which I don’t want anyone to think I’m saying that’s unreasonable.

Him loosing some form of spark overtime is reasonable. It’s what happens when your one single overarching goal surrounded the entire servers gaze on you, and then you slowly just stop caring about it. It’s also not like Wyll attacks unprovoked, he normally waits until someone attacks him or something close to him. Or specifically asked by an ally or team member to attack first. I mean even really with Solar Flare he never really has attacked any one of them without being provoked or asked in recent times.

I feel like I’m talking myself in circles and I don’t wanna make this toooooo long I cut off peoples attention spans. So I’ll go ahead and cut myself off here, but I’m open to any discussions. Feel free to openly disagree, agree, make a comment, or ask questions in my asks ^^