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so the house of representatives just passed a bill that will now move to the senate to BAN tik tok completely in the united states and they are expected to argue that ânational security risksâ outweigh the freedom of speech and first amendment rights. biden has already said that if it gets to him, he will sign it. whether or not you use the appâŚâŚ.this is something to be worried about
before u have the kneejerk reaction of âgood I hate tt anywaysâ or âmaybe ppl will go outsideâ thatâs not what this is about! the government wants to remove an entire app with over 170 million american users (who in large have used it as a platform to build community, consume and spread world news, advocate, organize), and try to force people back to us based apps like meta and google. please think about the implications. please think about what else they could potentially do if they get away with this. this could very well set a precedent for free speech & constitutional rights as well know it, and it is imperative we are on the right side of it
By the way, the actual language of the bill would allow them to ban any website or internet hosted app from a "foreign adversary", as described in the vaguest possible terms. This isn't about tiktok and will not stop at tiktok.
Summary of H.R.7521 - 118th Congress (2023-2024): Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act
I feel like we as a society don't discuss that light, even jokingly, was like 'pssh shinigami eyes are STUPID!! but if you gave me super cool wings I'd give up half my life-span' enough. you can't tell me he wasn't doodling an oc age 13 that had two massive wings and different coloured eyes and-
like i know we all have this image of light as a compulsive rule follower & i donât think thatâs wrong per se but he did murder several hundred people. which is not allowed.
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I MAY be reading too much into it, and people just donât care about all this because he is a serial killer of enourmous proportions, but I think there is not-so-obvious problem with claiming that Light is a psychopath.
So, Light Is obviously an evil person, in colloquial sense, but saying that his awfulness is an âobviousâ psychopath trait implies that a ânormalâ person has zero capabilities to do it to begin with and should not worry about themselves. Of course Iâm not saying that âmost people in his case will do the sameâ I actually think the minority will, but still his actions are basically a result of the same mentality: he believed that there are âbadâ people and âgoodâ, so he couldnât believe himself to have done something bad and went out of way to make it worth it
so, what Iâm trying to say, making statements âpsychopath = does bad thingsâ and âdoes bad things = psychopathâ interchangeable badly affects the capability of properly analyzing yourself, because you can always say âwell, iâm not a psychopath, so I will never be a bad person!â. And when âother personâ is not yourself, claiming their behavior on a personality disorder is much more easier, which prevents as to understand others as well. Not to immediately forgive for awful things, but to actually understand the roots of them, instead of claiming that this is a âpersonality disorder thingâ cuz ânormal person would neverâ
Youâre not reading too far into it at all, I donât think. Well said. People are calling Light a psychopath not because they truly understand psychological disorders or what defines them, but because they want a fancy term to describe his actions that implicates something even more egregious, serious and terrible than âassholeâ or âevilâ and separate themselves from that. Even Light feels the need to separate himself from himself, hilariously and sadly enough:
But him simply being an asshole is far, far worse than him being a psychopath. Light KNOWS better. His actions go against his innate AND engrained sense of right and wrong, and his conscience pricks him hard to the point of nightmares, rapid weight loss, nervous laughter and cold sweats. But he STILL does whatâs wrong anyway and STILL justifies it being right.
Light is 100% deliberate and purposeful in how he rationalizes himself into doing what is wrong and he does so ONLY because he has something significant to gain: doing what is wrong feels WAY less painful and world-shattering than having to process the mess heâs found himself in.
Itâs easier and more glamorous, as well. Be god of the new world and make it better like youâve always fantasized about, or feel crushed by the guilt of accidentally causing somebodyâs death? People think of that as insane, but his thought response is so human and natural, especially as a kid who has no real experience in heavy situations at all let alone like this. Heâs immensely privileged and sheltered. Itâs just the actual circumstances heâs in that are absolutely ridiculous.
It IS naturally human to do what feels comfortable and not necessarily what is right under immense stress and fear. When youâre scared of punishment or judgement, or how you might even feel about yourself, you WILL choose to do bad and stupid things to avoid it. Iâve done so many stupid things to avoid uncomfortable confrontation from my mistakes, ESPECIALLY as a child.
Light has been thrown into a situation that literally nobody would handle with grace, poise, perfect wisdom and calmness. People will claim that they have moral superiority over Light because as opposed to justifying their actions, theyâd instead spiral into immense guilt and self deprecation.
But itâs totally reasonable and logical for Light to fear that considering his entire sense of self is built on the fact that heâs the ideal in his culture and in society as a whole. He doesnât know immense failure and shame because he works very hard to achieve his best and succeeds at exceptional levels. Having all that torn away is very foreign and painful without experience and practice.
So while heâs still dead wrong and knows heâs wrong, like I said in my other post I made, itâs also REALLY asking a lot of him to deal with this whole situation in a dignified and rational way all by himself considering all the pieces within context.
Most wouldnât do what Light Yagami does not because theyâre not psychopaths, but simply because they are not Light Yagami. It has nothing to do with any condition or mental disorders. Itâs just that people canât and maybe are too afraid/reluctant to empathize with Light because it takes some deeper examination they are not accustomed to.
you're not a person anymore, just a personification. you're a concept, an abstraction. all neatly defined boundaries and borders, none of the vagueries or blurring of lines or grey areas that come from being mortal.
you can never change, now. never grow or evolve, you are this, forever, stagnant. and the thing you've been made to embody might not even be your best trait.
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Iâm like Lightâs PR mananger out here pulling direct, blatant references to the manga whenever people feel the need to debate me when I break down Lightâs character and motivations.
I donât know why people feel like Light having a human and emotional response to his situation instead of just being a natural born serial killer waiting to be unleashed is less satisfactory.
If anything, itâs much more complex and interesting and really adds the psychological horror element of the series. Because itâs like, if this guy who has it all together goes off the deep end, then so could anybody else who comes across this scary book.
Not to mention those people that say "Light is just like that" while falling into the same/very similar pitfalls the guy did(namely,saying he should've killed different people and saying Light didn't do so because he was too egotistical to see they were the real problem). Of course,I'm not saying those people are terrible or dangerous - they just have stupid takes on the work. Actually,those people kind of remind me of Light himself,in a way - righteous indignation towards injustice,being enraged by the perpetrators. (On a tangent,the idea that Light doesn't kill rich and powerful people is extremely dumb. This is a habit between many Light Yagami haters - they take away key traits from him,then complain the guy is bland).
Light's normalcy is one of the things that make him such a great character - both fake and real ones. His "good kid/professional adult" facade is a powerful weapon and it gives me a thrill to see Light being such a manipulative shithead. As for the real normalcy,seeing an ordinary(in some senses) guy doing horrible things is terrible in a visceral way,IMO. The Death Note is evil,but in the most passive way possible. Someone said that killing in such an easy,clean way takes the weight away from the deaths and/or becomes a tool to solve every problem. Soichiro said it right - that power is evil. To top it all,Light often frames his use of the Death Note as a sacrifice he has to make. The "Light sees himself as a martyr" is way scarier than "Light is just an egotistical fuck who sees himself as a god"(that one is true,but doesn't get to the gist of his character) because it shows he understands,at some level,that he's wrong and that he's suffering due to his own actions. Now,the "merely selfish pampered narcissist" doesn't pack the same punch - RL pampered narcissists don't have supernatural weapons,they're scary in different ways. To top it all,Light's self-sacrifice rhetoric is directly based on Soichiro's commitment to duty and justice,but horribly warped. Yet another "normie" trait of Light's - he looks up to his father(although Second Arc Light sees how fucked up Soichiro's extremist mindset and calls him out... But doesn't apply the same logic to himself đ¤Ą).
Light is ânormalâ (in the way heâs not a unfeeling psychopath like some people say) and thatâs terrifying. We want to believe only ânot peopleâ can do horrible things but in reality *all* of us can do terrible horrible things if given the right circumstances.
I think light definitely had a corruption arc in the most literal sense, I donât think it was supernatural in any way, just what happens when you give someone, especially someone who handles doing something bad as well as he does, the power over life and death.
The light we see at the start of deathnote is not the same at all as the one we see at the end of it. He spiraled *badly*
The deathnote just brought out the worst in him. The ego, the âI *cant* do wrongâ the self righteousness, all of it in a shit storm.
Fellow Light bash disliker!! I also hate when fics jumpscare me with light bashing! | love light as a character and wish more fics actually got his character right (or at least how I see him lol) instead of just characterizing him as "horrible stupid person who can only think of himself" people can totally write that If they really want to but pleasee tag it so I can avoid it. I very much do not enjoy that.
Light(my analysis of him) is a very flawed character that has done horrible things, but he's also a very complex character with some strengths and fics are always better (for me) when they acknowledge ALL of his character, not just his negatives.
I would love to info dump/talk about his character (it's one of my special interests) in your ams if you don't mind đđ - @lunar6death
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There are plenty of fics that I think characterize Light incorrectly, whether too far in the bashing direction or too far in the woobification directionâthough I get where they're coming from in both cases. Some people dislike Light and thus want to write him with his flaws exaggerated, and some people love Light and thus want to write him with his flaws diminished or non-existent. (I am also guilty of this but usually for Shigaraki Tomura specifically đśâđŤď¸). We already have several tags for the latter (Sweet Yagami Light, Good Yagami Light, etc etc) but we don't currently have any for the former, and you're right, it does make it kind of a jumpscare lmao.
I might expand on what exactly should be under the Bashing tag later, I think. Because with Light I don't think a lot of people even realize they're doing it; or even if they do, they don't tag it because everyone already knows Light is Bad and Evil anyway so it's a moot point. Even though it's,,,,very much not :')
And YES you can totally DM me to talk about Light!! Fair warning though, I am incredibly awkward in one on one conversations and my ability to reply in a timely manner is abysmal :D But you know I'm always up for Light discussions ;3
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Thereâs so many lawlight fics written by people who hate light like why
I feel you đ People can write whatever they wantâI only ever ask that they tag it properly. ...Though I do have to wonder why even write a story revolving at least half-way around Light if you don't even like him. Like,,,just ship your favs with someone else, he doesn't need to be the focus if you don't want him to.
Here is how I stereotype people based on their DN faves
Light stans - either the politest person you've ever met or the most self-absorbed and cocky you've ever met. Usually easy to get along with because they care more about being liked than being correct. Good student vibes as well
L stans - more difficult to get along with than Light stans because they care more about being correct than being liked. Think a good conversation is about offering counter-arguments and finding points on which you differ rather than finding some common ground to stand on. Also skittish about things like having prolonged conversations one-on-one
Mello stans- the most fiesty and argumentative people in the fandom, which can sometimes bring the fun and also sometimes bring the fights. Some seem kinda distrusting of other fans who are too overly proper or polite?
Near stans - either very quiet and mostly staying in their own corners or very stubborn and opinionated. Hard for me to befriend because they aren't usually that social and also usually hate Light
Misa stans - outgoing, emotional, fun, I don't have any beef with them but I also never seem to strongly vibe with them
B stans - edgy mcedgersons who usually also hate Light, I don't think I've ever become good pals with one except when they also thought B was a dumb-butt sad clown who is mostly good for a laugh