Let’s Talk About CDDs

As an autistic system I do notice that the way endos/ntgs view/treat plurality/systems is very similar to how (mostly allistic but sometimes autistic folks too) view and treat autism.

"It's not a disability it's a superpower! You're not disabled your differently abled! Everyone's a little bit on the spectrum! Oh yeah I'm sooo autistic" autism has been made something cute and quirky. Men are wanting "autistic" girlfriends but I'm sure if a real autistic woman was anywhere near them they'd revert back to bully they were in middleschool. Traits like stimming and special interests are romanticised, while the more "ugly" parts are all ignored and forgotten. White autistics with Lower supports needs are centred and most often leave their POC and higher supports needs siblings behind and/or speak over them.

DID too has suffered from being sensationalised and glamorized, the alters/multiplicity aspect has been romanticised and taken by outsiders while the "ugly" parts have been left out and forgotten. "Plurality isn't a disorder it's just some vague phenomena anyone can experience! If you wish you were a system, now you can be!" It's just a quirky identity stripped of it's "baggage". Plural communities constantly decentre CDD systems, their most vulnerable group, we are not listened to because our disorder isn't pretty, because we don't want our experiences and language appropriated , because we don't abide by their idealised version of Plurality and blindly agree with their community.

The "tiktokification" of autism does not represent me, the "tiktokification" of systems doesn't either. I'm not against sharing the good parts of your disorder/disability but you must remember it IS a disorder/disability. There is also nothing wrong with relating to traits of a disorder without having it. But,once again, do not speak over us!!

(Sorry if what's written I all over the place, the post was started by one alter and its been a few day I've decided to finish it and post it. I hope what we've written makes sense. Be kind and have a lovely day)

Fun Fact:

Traumagenic is a real medical term that is typically used in therapeutic environments to describe beliefs or states that are impacted by the cognitive and emotional impact of trauma. ( It's also used to refer to the traumagenic neurodevelopmental model of psychosis. )

1 ) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8833025/ ( Mentions of SA & CSA ) 2 ) https://www.mosac.net/TraumagenicStatesModel.aspx ( Discussion of SA & CSA )

Not only that, but there are papers out there that refer to CDDs as "Trauma-Related Dissociative Disorders" or caused by trauma, for all the weirdos out there who keep saying they can have a CDD without any form of trauma.

1 ) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9162402/ ( Mentions of abuse, neglect, sexual violence, suicide, substance use. ) 2 ) https://www.isst-d.org/publications-resources/public-resources/fact-sheet-iv-what-are-the-dissociative-disorders/ ( Mentions of alcohol & drug use, torture, cults, coercive control ) 3 ) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12406319/ ( Mentions of CSA and childhood abuse. ) 4 ) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4959824/ ( Mentions of CSA, childhood abuse, neglect, suicide. ) 5 ) https://pasadenatraumatherapy.com/dissociation/ ( Mentions of sexual abuse, physical abuse, incest, emotional abuse, neglect, torture, trafficking, CSA, drugs, alcohol, self-harm, and suicidality. )

Extremely, EXTREMELY sorry if I missed any triggers.

anon i love you for this /p

the whole narrative of "evil" or "bad" alters needs to be dismantled. whether you like it or not, whether you prefer to be addressed as individuals or not (i know that we do), whether your goal is final fusion or functional multiplicity or some other thing, alters are still parts of a whole and continuing to punch down at your "worst" alters is punching down at yourself.

until you learn to accept and work with all parts of yourself, you're never going to move anywhere.

when you back an animal into a corner, it's going to bite. if you keep screaming at that animal, it's going to keep biting. if you hit that animal, it's going to bite harder. until you learn to approach with kindness and understanding, that animal is going to bite. it's never going to want to work with you.

anti - persecutor sentiment doesn't seem to be as prevalent this side of tumblr, but it absolutely runs rampant on other social platforms like discord or tiktok. not like i'd expect anything else.

My take is that the claim is quite literally trying to cherry-pick something to prove ableism. It's no different to us then those who take criteria for something and try to pull "well, it said that it DOESN'T include this so clearly this is true!"

You cannot approach me, a survivor of child sex trafficking, to tell me that you are multiple and that you didn't survive trauma. That you are happy that way and that your life is all rainbows and butterflies because, according to your criteria and three Tumblr posts, that's fine. Let me remind you that the endogenic narrative subjects young survivors to befriending them because they are highly manipulable, and you, in your erotic madness, can abuse that child by saying it is an identity, because child abusers already do that without claiming to be endogenic.

They have problems, and serious ones. They don't even seem to have the gift of reading, because they read three paragraphs and shield themselves behind a supposed system that has DID, is endogenic, and is a psychologist. That kind of person is a danger to society; they should revoke their license for going against what is known as established studies.

let's say hypothetically that endogenic systems are a real thing. if they really wanna separate from CDD's, they need to stop using clinical terms

they need to stop using "alters", "parts", switching, fronting, host, persecutor, protector, gatekeeper, little, caregiver, and introject. why? these are clinical terms used by therapists when treating those with DIDOSDD.

you can't claim to not be invading CDD spaces, and claim to not be disorders while using these terms.

Except you do see us.

We're on the front page of your favorite porn site. We're the tweaking homeless person you pretend not to look at on the street. We're your favorite political talking point. We're the infant in the emergency room screaming from a pain they can't comprehend. We're the black lines in classified files you make jokes about. We're buried in the backyards of farmhouses that have long since returned to nature. We're the ones who sold you drugs in high school. We're the classmate you bullied for growling and barking like an animal. We're the product of a $200 billion industry. We're the blood on your favorite politician's hands. We're alive and dead and existing as fragmented states in between.

I’ll not accept you for not remembering any trauma

I’ll force you to uncover traumatic memories

I’ll expect your system to function in one specific way

I’ll force you to talk about triggers

I’ll force you to tell me about all your trauma

And so much more that my brain has blanked on.

The only thing that I will expect of you is to go find a therapist or psychiatrist as soon as is feasible for you - and I don’t care if that means now, in a months time, when you move out of your current living situation, in a few years once you have some financial stability, whatever. I just want you to get help as soon as that opportunity comes.

It's looking at close family photographs and not knowing who any of the people are. It's forgetting friends, forgetting family, forgetting loved ones. Forgetting peoples' faces, their voices, not understanding who's texting or calling you. It's not remembering even having fun, or happy events.

It's difficulty with school and work, sometimes being physically unable to comprehend the information you're receiving. It's losing your job because you forget that you even have one. It's being lucky if you even graduate. It's being unable to have a driver's license if you get diagnosed. It's not being able to even get a job if you have it listed as a disability in your paperwork.

It's being paranoid, afraid of the people around you. It's random bouts of emotions that make no sense, such as anger or fear. It's not being able to remember what some emotions feel like. It's even not being able to process emotions.

It's intrusive thoughts that feel impossible to get around. It's potentially endangering yourself or others, sometimes without even knowing why. In cases of abuse, it's intrusive thoughts about being abused. It's unwanted desires, impulses, and urges. It's being terrified of your own mind.

It's comorbid with other disorders that are created from trauma. Systems often are borderline, narcissistic, antisocial, histronic, obsessive compulsive, schizoid, etc etc etc, multiple of them, or in extremely severe cases, almost all of them.

Of course, these experiences vary from person to person, however this isn't "there are people in my head" funtimes. CDDs are created from extreme childhood trauma, usually abuse, where our personalities split to cope with the trauma. Alters are a symptom, not the whole disorder.

If you're endo/willo, or support them in any capacity, you're ableist. Point blank. And if you are tulpa or support them, you're racist, too.

Amnesia is the lack of memory. It’s completely omitted from your mind. It’s akin to trying to remember before you were born. It’s simply impossible! You had no awareness before you’re born, and that lack of awareness is the same for amnesia.

Those who have not experienced it can only piece together what it is like through the accounts of those who have it, which leads to this popular idea of it being a hard transition from point a to point b. (Which it can be!!) But, it’s much more complex than just a singular expression. It can, and in my case, look like your mind blocking off the bad parts of a moment and keeping the parts it’s okay with to fill in the gap of time. That’s why things seem to happen so fast for those of us with it! Because we are experiencing that time— just way faster because we forget half of the moment we experienced.

The way it’s portrayed in such a single, specific way bothers me… （´-`）.｡oO

This might be a piping hot take glup

often times when willo systems say stuff like "I willo'd my system because they help me cope with my emotions as someone with autism", I dont think it registers to them that having autism at a young age CAN be traumatizing to children with it. kids with autism are often alienated and neglected, as we were treated that way as a kid too.

Thank you in advance :)

[PT: Welcome! Please, take a seat.]

When it comes to switching itself, it can vary quite a bit between different parts. Often, we don't notice a switch has happened until we do something the previous fronter wouldn't. This particular method very much relies on knowing what actions do and do not match up to parts. More overt switches in our case come with a wave of much heavier dissociation and are easier to recognize.

Most often when we're uncertain as to who's in front, we first try to ground, and then go through a list of parts and think about what attributes sound "right" as fitting me. Pronouns, behaviors, personality traits, likes and dislikes, and similar things. We try to keep records of these as best we can and add other potential indicators. We keep a false member/"custom front" on our front tracking app labeled "blurry" for when we are too dissociated to figure this out.

However, one should try not to put too much pressure on recognizing who's fronting at every given moment. It can be helpful, but focusing on it too much can very easily cause undue stress. You aren't required to know everything about your system—that's just a part of how the disorder works.

As always, additions are welcome & appreciated.

- Still have "friends in your head"

- Not being ableist

i knew the question would come eventually. unfortunately, due to many endogenics rushing towards tulpamancy to prove the existence of 'plurality outside of dissociative disorders' online, it becomes difficult to tell the difference of 'is this person practicing an actual religion or are they trying to invade spaces of traumatized individuals for the sake of demedicalizing us.' there is no secret racism behind my intentions of not wanting tulpas to interact with me. I love when there are actual tulpas who don't try to integrate their practices within medical spaces because they know they're separate things, those are the type of tulpas I will happily let interact with me. however, if you're using tulpamancy as an excuse to hide behind demedicalization or to prove 'plurality'.. i don't want you anywhere NEAR my account. please pick up a tibet buddhism book and the dsm-5 WITHOUT taking the words out of context to prove a point that is disproven time and time again.