Hello and welcome to my blog! This is generally for posting about any type of death penalty, but my favorites are, as the name suggests, lethal injection, and guillotine execution.
I’m not as knowledgeable as I used to be about capital punishment, but I still know more than the average person. Totally normally.
Sometimes I accidentally post to this blog. Kindly, let me know, or don’t. Whatever.
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I do not support the actual death penalty. Confusing, I know. I do not wish death, or more importantly suffering, upon anyone. Screw you, Government Who Wants To Decide Who Dies Based On A Crime.
I tag my posts with the general tag “death penalty” and the specific type of punishment, if applicable. Asks are tagged with “lethal interjections / asks”. That’s all I have for now.
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Re: the lethal injection/death penalty post you just made: I realize you are not a pharmacist and may not be able to answer this question, but why not use the same drug cocktail for lethal injection as is used for MAiD? As far as I can tell, in Canada the drugs used are midazolam (benzodiazepine), propofol, and rocuronium; while in Oregon, the combo is DDMAPh (diazepam, digoxin, morphine sulfate, amitriptyline, phenobarbital). So either, we've figured out how to comfortably and painlessly euthanize people and are choosing not to use it on prisoners; or, doctor-assisted suicide is actually excruciatingly painful. What is the deal?
Let me take a crack at this.
- Midazolam tops out in effectiveness at a certain point. Beyond that, you’re just putting more wrong-pH stuff in the human body. If not for the massive, massive overdose used in death penalty cases, the tissue of the lungs might not dissolve and drown people while conscious the same way.
- Midazolam is used to calm people down to get them started on sedation. Propofol is an actual anaesthetic, not a paralytic. It is what is recommended, as far as I know — it doesn’t hide people’s reactions like the second drug in the 3-drug protocol does, pancuronium bromide. I think (from what I can tell!) that something like propofol is what experts say would actually effectively keep someone insensate to pain.
- the other one includes morphine yo that person ain’t feelin agony for nothing
- Prisons have no real legitimate avenues left to acquire these drugs. Therefore they end up with compounded drugs, illegal drugs, or black market drugs. These can have contamination, quicker expiration, less efficacy, etc etc etc.
- There are not medical officials placing these IV lines but untrained guards. The number of executions where there are tons of needle marks for attempted IVs is staggering. (Article is about one state but goes into a bit of an overview.) IVs drifting and moving during the procedure has got to be something medically assisted death monitors for more ably than guards pushing drugs through a 7 foot tube from a room next door.
So overall:
The lethal execution protocol drugs are definitely not the same as the ones you mentioned! But even if they were, there are other huge glaring problems with how they are procured, tested (they aren’t) and administered.
Rank the major execution methods. Lethal injection, hanging, guillotine, stoning, electric chair, firing squad
Thank you for this ask!! You know me well 🎉
We could rank this a couple ways really. In order of which I find most fascinating, most favorable, or which I personally believe should be implemented according to the constitution (need to actually lock in on that analysis 😭). For this, I’m going to go with the first option.
1. Lethal injection is, of course, first. I think the lethal injection is so interesting for a variety reasons. In my dream world, I’d have the knowledge that would allow me to formulate something new but similar
2. Electric chair. I’ve heard a whole bunch of crazy stories and seen documentaries abt this method that I find cool asf
3. Guillotine
4. Firing squad (sad this is at four but I’ll do what has to be done)
GUILLOTINE NUMBER 3 are you serious!!!! Guillotine is best, in my opinion.
NO WAY ELECTRIC CHAIR AT TWO???????? it set people on fire!! three seperate times!! the first guy they tried it on they ruptured his skin!!
I know the lethal injection propaganda is high, but that sucks too. Also, hanging lower than stoning?? hanging is good nowadays. Stoning is ... what even is that. It doesn't kill people good. Stoning is at the bottom, after asphyxiation, because i have heard HORROR stories from both....
it really is crazy that they dont use the firing squad in america, like if you are gonna execute people stop caring about your own comfort you pieces of shit at least pick the quickest way to do it.
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if you were to be executed via execution and you got to decide like what kind of death (electric chair, guillotine, drowning, lethal injection, y’know those kinds of deaths) you died by, what would you chose
i think i'd want to go out quick and painless like most people would agree, so probably a bullet to the back of my head
(WOW, you have an interesting take on that. Better than... wait, why is drowning there? Are you serious? That has not and has never been a form of capital punishment... fake fan. Maybe if you were royalty. Anyways, firing squad is closest to that.)
yk guys I think a lot of ppl when arguing against the death penalty go for a like "people don't deserve death, etc" view and I get why ppl argue for that I rly do! but it doesn't matter. I don't trust the government to do it, I don't trust them to decide who should die, I don't trust them to determine who is mentally competent, I don't trust them to not be bigoted and discriminatory in their practices, I don't trust them to have the right people, I don't trust them to execute it in a humanitarian way. and I've had discussions with ppl who otherwise have similar viewpoints to me in many ways but can think of people they think deserve to die, and I think if abolishing the death penalty is like, a super important cause to u the same way it is to me, the argument u use shouldn't be "well these people deserve to live" (although in some cases I think yeah the death penalty is done to people who totally don't "deserve it") because that's so subjective, it should be "do you trust the government to do it?" like, do you trust the people who cant even fill potholes on your road to determine who should and should not live
Do you know how hard it is for individuals with body integrity identity disorder to become disabled? I would imagine dying without reasonable cause would be multitudes harder. For the actual thing, that could cost upwards of $275,000. For euthanasia it's still expensive ($15,000)- and you still don't have a reason- so I don't think that's happening any time soon.
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What if someone has no kind of illness but is bent on getting a lethal injection? Should they be allowed to die, or should they be prevented from getting it for their own safety?
I believe that anyone has the right to do what they want to themselves, as long as it doesn't directly hurt others or make the world worse. Of course, the hypothetical person would have to pay for it themselves, and would have to consent to everything that would happen. I'm not too sure who would want to do that, though.
Do you think the process of dying in itself is inherently painful? Even if the person is sedated first…
Perhaps not. Plenty of people die in their sleep and that is not painful. Maybe it is, though. We wouldn't know. But I'd say that pain isn't inherent; even though a lot of deaths are painful.
what’s your opinion on physician assisted suicide in the case of mental illness?
There are a very small amount of times where I could consider it completely wrong, but that is in very rare circumstances. I support anyone's right to die, of course, but sometimes the people performing them are... not the best, in my research and opinion.
Especially if that's all they do for a living. Then they would have a motive to pressure clients into dying. In a vacuum I am 100% for it, and for many people it's definitely the right choice for them, and this is just my opinion.
hi there! to answer the thought in your tags from the previous reblog, Singapore uses long-drop hanging (rapid fall to break the neck) to carry out its executions upon the death penalty. the death row is located in Changi Prison.
Thank you so much! I actually didn’t know this type of hanging specifically, so thanks for that too! I appreciate it.
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the pro-violence attitude i see in a lot of my peers on the left tells me those individuals fundamentally do not believe people can change. “we should just kill [morally reprehensible person]” hey buddy did you know that being morally reprehensible is not like a fixed state predetermined for you at birth. we are not mormons there is no room for blood atonement here.
This has been in my drafts for more than a month, but I have been thinking about it more the last few days.
Below are my thoughts on the death penalty.
When people say to kill all rapists or child predators I can sympathize with them. I’ve been a victim. I get it I really do. I just can’t agree though. Even though they’ve committed a terrible crime, hurt someone in a way that can fuck them up forever, I cannot agree that they should be killed.
I don’t think anyone, regardless of crime, should be killed by the state. The most inhumane crimes done to the most vulnerable people, are still committed by a human being ya know? I cannot condone killing someone.
If I had the chance to shoot the man who assaulted me and made it so I get scared if I hear someone walking behind me in a restroom or react badly to someone grabbing me from behind. I still couldn’t do it.
I’m not saying they should be punished, I’m not saying they should walk free. I’m just saying they shouldn’t be killed. That is still a person, and we can’t decide it’s okay for the state to kill someone because they committed a crime. The government should never be allowed to kill its own citizens, or really anyone. Lock them up, put them in prison for life, but we have to treat them like people.
I could make the argument that it’s because even in a “fair” trial we see innocent people get the death penalty and only get acquitted after they’ve died, or that it’s all too easy for bad actors to change what qualifies as a crime worthy of death so that the people they dislike or their political enemies can be murdered, or that to kill one person you have to go through all the safety measures which ends up costing more than life imprisonment. I could make those arguments, but those aren’t why I believe what I do. I believe that everyone deserves to live, and that we need to treat them like people.
I’m not saying that if you kill someone in self defense, or that if a victim decided to murder the person who did something to them that I’d say “you’re a bad person”. Again, I get it, they did something so fucked up that you decided to take it into your own hands. I just can’t look at it on the whole and go “this is what we should do”. I don’t want people taking the life of another ever.
I am not perfect about this. I’ve seen people die and been like “you deserved it you sick fuck”, but that is a gut reaction and not what I believe. We can react and think “the world is going to be a better place with you gone”, but that we can still try to be better. We can try to look at this person who did something terrible and say “I hate you, you are a piece of shit and I hate you” but we should still strive to remember that this is a person.
This likely reads as ramblings of some spineless loser to many, but it’s my thoughts on something I’ve seen
