the testosterone that makes you evil

If you were able to transition out of systemic misogyny into systemic male privilege, the patriarchy would not exist as we know it. Cisgender women would just be able to transition into transgender men and not only face zero consequences, but be rewarded for it too. Looking at the academic literature out there though, the actual material reality is that transgender men tend to have worse outcomes than cisgender women in almost every field— from sexual violence to amount paid to ability to access healthcare.

An actual Marxist material analysis of transgender men under our system would understand that while some of the most privileged in the community can get some very conditional male privilege off of the basis of being mistaken as cis men; however that doesn't equate to systemic access and the overwhelming majority of transgender men have never benefited from this and never will. Actual material analysis would acknowledge that transgender men outside the global north exist and face much harsher conditions and barriers to transition that transgender men in the west do not. Actual material analysis would note that transgender men, while men as in the gender identity, are never let into the group of men as a social class. Actual material analysis would note that transgender men are much more likely to be working class, unemployed, or in poverty than cisgender people and need extra support under capitalist systems that don't cater to them. Actual material analysis would be noting that there are not any transgender men who are in positions of significant political power, and if they were accepted as men (the socialpolitical class) they would be overrepresented into positions of power and privilege as opposed to consistently erased and left to die.

Transmasculinity and trans manhood is as diverse as transfemininity and trans womanhood.

You simply choose to reduce it to because it fits your already existing mentality that casts masculinity and manhood as the inherent oppressor.

Also if you think that way I'm pretty sure I can expect you to ALSO be reductive and exclusionist to any transfem person who doesn't fit your normative ideas... soooo.

But these accusations of trans men "holding on to their agab" is so weird, because like SO? what if some trans men do have complicated relationships with their history.,

Hello, my name is World's Most Privileged Trans Man, and I have some things to say about transandrophobia.

First of all, you trenders- I mean transandrobros, might not know this, but testosterone is soooo much more powerful than estrogen, so when you start T you pass instantly. I know this, because when I started T at 12 years old, I looked like all the other boys in my class, right after my first shot!

Also, abortion bans don't even affect us, because you can just get a hysterectomy. You should have been trying to get one anyway, since getting pregnant is only for women. If your insurance denies you, just have your parents pay for it like mine did!

I make a lot of money at my job where my colleagues make sexist jokes like I'm "one of the guys", and therefore so do you. I have never felt unsafe with a doctor or police officer, and therefore neither have you. I refuse to believe that anyone could have a different experience than me so they are just being a whiny baby, and I refuse to admit that being upper middle class, white, able bodied, and cis passing, might have a little more baring on my blissfully privileged life, rather than my True Male Soul

*Takes off my sarcastic voice*

Like yes, treat us with respect, recognize us as men and be normal about it (without stereotyping, alienating, or ostracizing us), but if treating us "as men" means not recognizing us as *trans* men even in contexts where that really matters, if you can only respect our identities when treating us uniformly to how you would *cis* men, then you're not a good trans ally.

Being a good trans ally means actively listening to us to understand how our transness influences our personal experiences, our sociopolitical positions, our interactions with gendered concepts, with manhood itself and what society expects and rejects in us as men- and being individuals who moved away from/rejected the womanhood and traditional femininity expected of us.

To walk into every conversation about trans men with the attitude "well you're a man so I'll treat you just as I would any man (aka cis men)" is obtusely overly simplistic at best, and outright degendering and dehumanizing at worst- denying us recognition without the accusation or implication we are misgendering ourselves when our experiences differ from cis men.

We are men and we aren't cis men, and acknowledging that is not misgendering, it is not insidious to bring up, it is not obfuscating to talking about us as men, it is just actual, literal reality.

Sanding away fundamental aspects of our experience to cram us into the boxes you expect of cis men is not being a good trans ally. It feels obvious but for some reason it just isn't for some people. You can absolutely respect us as men while understanding we are transgender men, and not just 'transgender' as a separate marginalizing qualifier tacked on to someone who would be otherwise identical to a cis man if you took that away.

That's not how this works. These two concepts literally cannot exist without the other, or we would not be who we are. Our transness is not separate or incidental to our manhood and our experiences related to manhood. Our manhood is not incidental to our transness and our experiences related to being trans. You need to respect us in our culmination, as a unique and valid expression of manhood, as a unique and important expression of transgender existence.

Now of course, an individual trans man may not want to be referred to as a trans man, just as a man, and you should respect that. In day to day, a trans man might not want you to treat him any differently than you would a cis man, and you should respect that. That's not the sort of thing I'm talking about here.

It's that when it comes to recognizing how we must navigate society, patriarchy, gender dynamics, and gendered oppression- erasing the reality of our transness to treat us as functionally cis men besides a few quirks is not at all showing solidarity to us, but ignorance. It is a flattening of who and what we are and what we go through.

Transmasculine people are extremely misogynised, and they are barred from a lot of support avenues for misogynised people due to no longer identifying as women.

This is an objectively sad and true thing, and since transmascphobes can't really deny that this is a shit situation to be in, they have to frame it as trans men's fault.

I mean when it came out, I saw a lot of people talking about how it was transphobic, and one or two people explicitly mentioning transmascs and nbs.

Any movement that has “people forcibly classed as female since birth oppress people who weren’t on the basis of their having being classed as female” as a loadbering belief is an antifeminist movement.

Any movement that has “people with natal vulvas, uteri, and ovaries do not experience any unique types of violence, medical abuse, or marginalization” as a loadbering belief is an antifeminist movement.