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Buffy the Vampire Slayer 3.16 Doppelgangland
okay big pathetic dork man has endeared himself to me i cant deny it any more
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thinking about them
I'm right here. Ok? I'm here.
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The cold harbor scene is so compelling to me because like. Love does not transcend severance. At least not in the way Lumon is thinking about love. But humanity does.
Lumon has been working to create this smoothed-out emotionless product to market to the world, this Gemma who has been refined out of all her ātempersā. A medical company trying to create the ultimate opioid. We can guarantee YOU never have to feel pain again, just please donāt worry about the other version of you that only exists to feel the pain.
But this version of Gemma that has only been alive a few minutes still chooses to leave the room with the strange man covered in blood, despite her supposed ārefinementā. Because notably, innies are NOT a product. Theyāre not an AI trained to do their programmers bidding. They are human, and thatās Lumonās downfall: Humanityās innate desire to seek connection. This man is clearly terrifying to her, but he looks at her with love in his eyes and holds out his hand to her. Despite the voice on the loudspeaker, (which is all she knows so far of life) warning her to stay, she goes with him. A human being is always going to take the outstretched hand over the disembodied voice.
the way I see it, innie!Markās choice at the end of the episode was thoroughly explained by the conversation he had with outie!Mark through the camcorder.
even though outie!Mark is apologetic and sympathizes with innie!Markās suffering in LUMON, he doesnāt really understand it. itās all innie!Mark has. helly is all he has. so when he undercuts his life by telling him that they can just āshareā, he is showing his ignorance and inability to comprehend what innie!Mark is going through.
thatās where the distrust that bubbles to the surface comes from. innie!Mark is a fully formed person, but his other self sees him as lesser. why wouldnāt he want to assert what little power he has in order to enjoy whatās left of his life? he and helly might just die in ten minutes. he has no idea, but for once, he isnāt being dictated to by LUMON, or Milchick, or his outie.
and of course he saved gemma. it is the right thing to do, and she didnāt deserve to suffer. but other than that, he has no ties to her. she isnāt what he wants. he wants helly, and for the first time he has the complete freedom to enjoy his time with her.
freedom. thatās what he deserves and what he craves. of course he stayed.

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Mark Scout and Helena Eagen in the Season 2 Finale - Analysis.
He said āHelena Eagen, right?ā like a some old dude flirting with his sonās girlfriend. Lol.
Mark Scout sees Helena Eagen as a sexual object, since heās only seen her in sexual contexts (reintegration flashes) and flirted with her at the Chinese restaurant. āTaking me home, already?ā
Helena Eagen and Mark Scout are similar. They both think with sex. They dehumanize Innies. They get their names wrong. They are both self-serving. Theyāre both somewhat dishonest.
This is the smile of a man who didnāt hate the flashbacks he was getting. But also didnāt take their relationship seriously, and diminishes his own experiences as an Innie.
But then Innie Mark says something unexpected: āHelly, actually. Itās the person Iām in love with.ā
This moment forces Outie Mark to look at himself. He has a moment of shock. Heās speechless for a while, for the first time in the conversation, then he starts apologizing. One of the few times heās actually honest during the entire exchange. (Even the first message of him being āniceā was followed by his fake smile disappearing as he stopped recording.)
This moment potentially makes oMark re-evaluate the way he flirted with her at the Chinese restaurant. The fact thatās itās love and not just lust for his Innie is a terrifying thing for oMark, whoās been trying to diminish all these flashes.
Not just to diminish his Innie, but also diminishing whatever he felt when he looked at Helena.
Them flirting was confirmed by both Adam Scott and Ben Stiller. They said there was a heavy flirtatious charge in the air. (Partially due to Britt Lower and Adam Scottās chemistry, but also because this is just the dynamic between Helena Eagen and Mark Scout.)
Ben Stiller: āIts a question of what permeates, what pheromones are there, whatās the love feeling likeā¦ā
Finally, when Mark Scout gets the name wrong, which is exactly what Helena did, this is ultimately what seals his fate. Being similar to Helena Eagen is what seals his fate. Now, heāll be trapped down there as their Innies take control over the floor.
But the Outies arenāt exactly invincible to the way their Innies feel about eachother, either.
Thatās why Mark and Helena felt something for eachother at the restaurant, when Innie Mark and Mrs. Casey felt nothing at all.
Itāll be interesting to see where Season 3 goes.
Okay, Iām writing this here instead of on Twitter because I donāt want to get Discoursed: I feel like the way some Severance fans talk about Markās relationships with Helly and Gemma is a great lightning rod for our weird (and kinda dismaying?) cultural shift about sex, romance, and relationships in fiction.
To be entirely clear off the top, while Iām more invested in Mark and Hellyās relationship, I think the show wants you to feel genuinely conflicted. This is not a āWhy arenāt you guys on my teamā post or me indicating that every Mark and Gemma fan feels this way. Theyāre genuinely tragic, Iāve seen many great reads and insights on them, theyāre a key part of the show.
But even tracking back to season one, it feels like people were looking for a reason to invalidate or dismiss Mark and Hellyās connection simply because āPrestige TV shouldnāt revolve around romanceā or the idea that they were too good for a show about a couple getting together. Mark and Helly and Burt and Irvingās relationship both say something essential about the show and the innies, the idea that people cannot help but fall in love with each other even when every force around them attempts to prevent and stifle that feeling. And I thought the show put some groundwork in on them! Even from the start (āI think we should kill Markā etc), Hellyās clearly fixated on him and more interested in antagonizing him specifically, and Markās willingness to bend rules he used to believe in for her comfort is a pretty key aspect of his path. Itās shown in a veiled way, but I think the show made it earned and a lot of people just basically went āUgh now thereās KISSING?ā And itās not like there werenāt essential displays of platonic love between the innies either, the show makes time for those as well.
And then this season, I see SO many takes about how Mark and Helly represent lust compared to Mark and Gemmaās genuine love, and itās hard to feel like thatās not just because weāve seen one couple have sex and the other hasnāt? There have been so many displays of genuine understanding between Mark and Helly, from him trying to break rules to make her more comfortable in season one to her realizing he was just lashing out after the ORTBO. I mean, even earlier in the episode, she basically said he should leave her behind to have a chance to live! Sure, thereās no wedding band, but how is that not an ultimate display of devotion!
Even if you want to bring up that Mark couldnāt tell Helena and Helly apart, it feels hypocritical to then turn around and say innie Mark should have chosen Gemma because itās *his* wife. Innies and outties are either one being or two, we canāt just flip-flop for morality and shipping.
I donāt know, maybe Iām reaching for something that isnāt there, but I feel like theyāve set up a genuinely complex story about the humanity of innies and outies that asks great philosophical questions and some fans are resorting to a weirdly puritanical way of talking about it.
itās seriously wild to me how so many people think mark s should have ended his life right there, accepting to live his outies life with a woman he doesnāt love. i was heartbroken watching gemma pound on the door too, but itās very hypocritical of people to not lend the same empathy they lent gemma to mark s. itās not even a matter of helly vs gemma, itās mark s wanting to keep his life, a life he was given without his permission, yet managed to build and make something out of. he has people he cares about too, a life down there too. but suddenly none of that matters because his outie and his wife matters more? mark s is a person too!
itās not a black and white thing, you can be upset for gemma and be happy for mark s, for regaining whatever small amount of autonomy and agency he can. he knows heās going to die either way, whether he stays or leaves. so why wouldnāt he turn around to hold the hand of the woman he loves, to spend whatever amount of time he has left with her? it was a selfish choice yes, leaving gemma there, but thatās the point of the scene. for once in his life, mark s did something for himself, without regard for his outie. the show has always been about the innies, it was always going to be THEM.
see you at the equator š
[ID: Gifs (left side) of Helena saying "I am a person. You are not." and Helly's reaction. Then gifs (right side) of Mark Scout saying "Honestly, I love that you had that experience. So now, you can imagine...like what you and Heleny had, but multiplied." and Mark S.'s reaction. End ID]
HELENA EAGAN and MARK SCOUT + dehumanizing their innies

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SEVERANCE 2.07 ā Chikhai Bardo // 2.10 ā Cold Harbor
when YOUR religious devotion is rooted in some kind of just revolutionary worldview and HIS religious devotion comes from following an actual god.
Severance asking the big questions: Can a Christian and leftist ever make it work?