Roman:

Deceit:

Logan:

Virgil:

Patton:

Remus:

Twins:

Also Virgil:

Well for one thing it’s thanks to Epic that Color discovered his flames could be made into a flamethrower.

Killer always refuses Epic’s chocolate chip cookies and Color always says it’s just “a Killer thing.” Killer doesn’t like that Epic seems to automatically understand what that means. He is not strange enough to require having “a thing,” right?

Killer has definitely tried to fight Epic. Possibly even kill him. Simply because he wants to know what the fuck is up with Epic’s eye.

I like to think that when he’s in Stage 2, Killer likes to find ways to unsettle Epic or attempt to keep him on his toes. Killer probably struggles to read Epic a lot more than most, and unfortunately for Epic, that has made him Killer’s latest soul in a jar.

Figuratively. Color wouldn’t like it if he made a lab rat of his “friend”…and Killer supposes he wouldn’t like upsetting Color. Maybe.

Doesn’t mean he can’t stab him, doesn’t it. It’s not killer’s fault if epic happens to lose a finger or two. (Which never happens. Because Epic seems to have insane reflexes.)

But either he is used to people wanting to dismember him for science (and isn’t that an interesting thought..) or Color warned Epic about Killer. Probably that orange one too.

Epic acts like they are good friends and not like Killer is dissecting him with his eyes and memorizing things about him and also trying to dismember him. And also apparently doesn’t like it when Epic takes his spot near Color on the couch.

Ultimately, Killer’s territorial bullshit and sadistic musings die down a little with more exposure to Epic and his personality, although Epic suspects the killer part of him still wants to strap epic to a table and start pulling him apart.

..Color says thats just how he is and not to worry about it, but Epic has doubts. He can see the thousand ways Killer is planning to brutally murder him, and the worst part of all, is that it’s not even because he hates him or is even jealous of him.

It’s just because he’s curious.

So I like to think this a bit of a thing for them, becomes super casual for killer to attempt to slit Epic’s throat and for Epic to expertly dodge out of the way. It’s like a cat-and-mouse game, and killer would lose respect for him if killer manages snag or kill him.

And of course there’s a factor that the big thing for him is making and persevering memories, so of course he’d be into scrapbooking—almost obsessively. His scrapbooks are vastly important to him—they’re him. They’re his life. Proof he exists. That he’s known. That he was loved.

Anyone who destroys or even jokes about destroying or stealing them—this is probably a big betrayal for Color. Betrayal of his trust.

I have no doubt he’d break down if something were to happen to his scrapbooks, his grief and betrayal and existential dread would likely translate into overwhelming rage and hatred at whoever did it. Regardless of who it was. Doesn’t matter if it was just a joke or a prank.

Those emotions may quickly then turn in on himself if he feels that his emotions are unkind or unjust towards whoever hurt him. Which could result in an outburst of emotions directed towards himself that, similar to what happened back in the Void with Gaster, requires external intervention to prevent him from either seriously harming/mutilating himself, or dying.

Other than scrapbooking, I also think he’d be big in both nature photography and Astrophotography.

Astrophotography makes Color feel more like Sans than he’s ever been in what feels eternity.

I like to think that the child who had the Integrity soul adored the stars, despite not knowing as much about them as Perseverance might (potentially being the type of soul who dabbles in various topics of information, such as scientific fields, and potentially had an interest in space for awhile) reminders that they aren’t alone. Mostly because it’s mentioned in the wikis that the Integrity soul attacks with stars and ballet shoes.

airing this out a bit cause it personally is bugging me a bit

Keep in mind though however these are MY opinions,how I see and interrupt the character.

Let me make this clear now,I am a system. And have felt like I could relate to killer for a long time now in a way I can't explain exactly unfortunately. I know the D.I.D stuff he shows is not on purpose yet that still sticks with me,it makes me feel seen as due to the fact we didn't know or view ourself very positively as a system for a very long time and struggled like him with the different parts or 'stages' for his case...

And it's a EXTREMELY complex thing too so im not putting any iron wall dnis over it or anything but I won't take any bad mouthing over the disorder being inherently 'bad' as it isn't. Killer survived but he didn't come out in one piece, he kape out broken,hurt emotionally and physically,abused and twisted in ways he reasonably never should have

And I feel that color doesn't do him much help...not everyone will want to try and grasp and understand the fact that Killer just isn't sans anymore,at all. Won't accept the fact of the different stages or anything being of their own personalities thats held yet part of a bigger picture that makes up *killer* and I feel color would be to fixated on trying to make him back to who he used to be before the trauma or force the idea of final fusion(where all alters in a system fuse into one personality) over trying to help killer in the ways he'd really need like therapy,any potential needed medication and to help killer sort out what would feel best for him be it to try and reach that single personality/stage state or accept his other parts and figure out how to navigate life like that as well even if it would be rocky as hell at first.

It isn’t Color who wants Killer to go back to being Sans. It’s Killer who wants to magically go back to being Sans. That is their canon. It’s Killer who says he wants his old life back, that he wants his brother back, that he wants to be Sans again. Color brings up his soul because it’s literally being used a tool to control him—and killer can never get what he’s saying he wants if something isn’t done to address his soul and the way it can be used against him.

All Color did was tell him to stop doing what everyone else wants, and then asked Killer what Killer wants. Killer told him what he wanted. Even if it may not actually be the most realistic or helpful thing for him in the end. Even if he later changes his mind.

Killer wants to be sans. Could color hyperfixate on trying to help him get what he wants? Sure, yes. But it wouldn’t be coming from a place of disrespect or wanting killer to be normal or thinking he knows what’s best or trying to control. It would be coming from a place of wanting to sincerely help his friend reclaim his life and independence, do the one thing for him that he has asked him to do.

But ultimately: Color has always respected what Killer wants. This is why Killer even trusted him enough to ask for help or explain his soul stages to him at all in the first place.

Do we think Beta's parental situation would impact his religion, and vice versa? For example, Mother Mary. Would his view of her change based on the perception of his biological mother, if he was abused by her somehow? Or would he look up to Mother Mary as a figure that his biological mother should've been, but wasn't?

Sure, I don’t see why his parental situation wouldn’t impact his religion, makes sense that it would—especially if we run with the idea that he’s Filipino (since Delta’s creator is from the Philippines), and according to Google, the Philippines is “the most predominantly Christian nation in Asia, with a large majority of Filipinos identifying themselves as Christian, particularly Catholic.”

This means there’s a high chance the human family Beta was born and/or raised in was likely to identify as Christian, very likely Catholic, and possibly raised up their youngest members into the religion.

I can also see his devotion, relationship with, and perception of Mother Mary changing both as he grows up and as he begins to meet and build with relationships with other older women in his life that could take on more maternal roles for him. His biological mother, his lola (grandmother), his tita (aunt), a teacher, a nun at the family church, and of course: Toriel.

And a female teacher could have a very big influence on little Beta’s relationship with his religion, life, his family, and Mother Mary based on this excerpt I found on Google about Filipino culture/religion:

“In terms of other Christian denominations, there is a strong presence of Protestant traditions in the Philippines, in part due to the United States colonisation of the country.

Many teachers from the United States were Protestants who were responsible for instituting and controlling the public education system of the country. As such, they had a strong influence over the Philippines, particularly with the dispersing of Protestant attitudes and beliefs.”

(Also, according to Google, “The Philippines is a global hub for nurses. It supplies the largest number of healthcare workers worldwide, with many Filipinos working internationally.”

This means that, depending on the exact year that Beta was alive (and died) and was living in the Philippines, he could’ve possibly grown up with healthcare workers or aspiring healthcare workers in his family—either his parent(s), aunts, uncles, siblings, etc.

This could also potentially mean that Beta may’ve accompanied family members on international trips or trips through the Philippines/Asia for their work.

Or if he didn’t or couldn’t accompany them, there’s an element of abandonment and/or neglect here—or if it’s someone like an older sibling or a cousin, there’s always a sense of “why couldn’t you be like them?” for Beta growing up.

(Also interesting to note that Filipinos that work abroad are known to send remittances (a large sum of money) and something called a “balikbayan box”—a box that contains various items such as clothing, household objects and gifts for their family—back home for their families.

A parent or parents that work abroad would often leave the care of their children in the hands of their own parents, their siblings, the other parent that doesn’t work abroad, even close family friends or those deemed their children’s godparents.

So in return for taking in the children, parent(s) send money back to financially support their families, through money or even in gifts and helpful items.

It’s also been recorded that even titos and titas (uncles & aunts) that work abroad would also send money and boxes back, and often help contribute towards their nieces and nephews education.

Education is noted to be an important value in Filipino culture, as is family—as many working abroad Filipinos are said to experience emotional distress whenever they’re unable to send money or boxes back to their families at home, because they worry they are failing their duties to respect and care for their families.

It’s possible that Beta had a family member that worked abroad he was never allowed to travel with, and in his eyes at least, he never received any letters, boxes, nothing from that family member.

Did they die? Did they abandon him? Did the family member he was left in the care of never tell or give him anything on purpose, for whatever reason?)

Perhaps Beta also grew up with the high expectations that he’d either work in healthcare, or in the church.

Was reading one of the wikis about the orange soul and its items a bit ago, thought of some things.

1. Beta says “tuff” instead of “tough.” Based on how the Short Name for the Tough Glove is Tuff Glove.

2. Of course, will only ever refer to his bandanna as “Mandanna.” Manly bandanna.

3. Because the flavor text when the tuff glove is checked describes it as a “worn pink leather glove,” I like to think that Beta thinks pink is a very manly color.

4. Because the mandanna is said to have abs drawn on them, i like to think Beta (like Color) has a tendency to draw on just about every object and surface he can. Usually things he considers to be manly and tuff of course. (Like manly abs and strong arms and sick ballet shoes and tuff ribbons.)

5. In the trivia section for the manly bandana on the wiki, it says the item appears to be a reference to the “Manly Bandana wearable by Flint in the game Mother 3.” I’m not completely sure who Flint is or what Mother 3 is about, but I’d imagine Beta/orange bravery souls probably do and may like the game/character.

Well, if we’re talking “canonically,” there is no mention of any religions or gods Killer may or may not believe in.

Because Killer can speak Arabic and Killer’s creator—rahafwabas—is Arab (I believe Saudi Arabian?) a lotta people headcanon Killer to also be Saudi/Arab, which often means some people also may like exploring and headcanoning Killer as a Muslim, a follower of the Islam religion.

However, these aren’t “canon.” And it’s also very important to keep in mind that although Killer now does not consider himself either human or monster, he was born and raised as a monster, alongside Monsterkind. Underground.

Monsterkind very likely developed their own religions, deities, beliefs, rituals, and texts. For example, the Prophecy and the Angel.

Pretty sure we don’t ever actually get to hear or learn Sans’ thoughts about either the Prophecy or the Angel in Undertale, though.

If you consider the Player to be the Angel in the Prophecy, and since Killer is aware of the Player’s existence—seemingly also aware somewhat of the existence of Creators, although he still calls them Players—and he’s aware that we’re the reason he’s like that, you could potentially view him as a follower of the Angel or the Players/Creators.

Or possibly that is how characters in-universe, who are not aware, view Killer—a sorta religious fanatic, or someone indoctrinated into a death cult—even though Killer himself may not have religious like feelings towards us.

To him, it’s possible that we are just a fact of his existence—not something that can or cannot be believed in, proven or disproven, we just are. We construct and code and program the world around him.

And it’s possibly those exact beliefs—that there’s something bigger than him, bigger than everyone, bigger than actual Gods like Reaper or Life or even the self proclaimed God of Negativity himself—that deepens Killer’s derealization, and his learned helplessness.

He doesn’t resist against Nightmare’s torture or angry outbursts, because it wouldn’t have happened if We didn’t want it to happen. He doesn’t attempt to leave or escape Nightmare, because he wouldn’t even be there if We didn’t want him to be.

If he does attempt to escape and gets caught, it only happened because We didn’t want him to leave Nightmare. He does things—like fight against the Stars in that one comic—because Nightmare “asked him to”—aka told or commanded him to—and it’s possible he reads it as Us telling him what to do through Nightmare.

(Of course, he makes sure to slip in one “and because it’s fun” when he’s answering Dream’s questions.)

If We want it, he wants it, and so it’s okay. Like he said to Color in that one comic.