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Platonic or romantic the society would shun away any possibility also for such a deep connection to imply something more than friendship and no showmaker would want that

So god/devotee becomes the easiest dynamic to show the deep connection without the audience having to have any deep thoughts about them two

It's less about the god/mortal part because Madhurya Bhakti exists and I haven't really seen anyone even imply that tbh.

But it is indeed about:

1. Homophobia/internalized homophobia and that queerness should "stay out of religious texts/not everything has to be queer and woke" etc.

2. "They're just best friends/brothers" mentality/general headcanon but that is simply the cherry-picked version of them. But I have already shown that if Krishna said the things he says to/about Arjun to someone he considers platonic, say Draupadi, or even Sudama, it would sound weird as fuck.

3. Most people expect Krishna to only love his female love interests, like Radha, Rukmini, Satyabhama, etc., because most people either identify with/relate to the female love interest (usually female devotees/stans/madhurya bhakts) or with Krishna having said female love interest (usually male devotees/stans).

4. The only male lover some of them are willing to accept is Gadadhar, but that is again because he's literally the male version of Radha.

5. They are "NarNarayan" and hence brothers so they cannot be together. Ig that's the only strong argument. However, many ppl using this argument usually ship Subhadra and Arjun, who are maternal cousins. So...

At the end, especially in times like this, where queer rights are already at almost their lowest in India, we will probably never see a KrishnArjun adaptation that implies a kind of tension that's just more than platonic, or truly capture their obsession with each other. Or even make Krishna even dare say canon monologues like "I cannot live on this earth without Arjuna" or "My family, my wives, none are as dear to me as Arjuna is".

Until people actually do 💀

Then suddenly love has a Terms & Conditions page.

Like damn 😭 I thought we said the divine was beyond human limitation??? Why does transcendence keep stopping exactly where social discomfort begins?

It’s always: “Krishna belongs to everyone 🥰✨🌸”

right up until someone loves him in a way that disrupts heteronormativity or rigid social boundaries. Then it's blasphemous.

People are fine with Krishna being: a cowherd, a king, a strategist, a charioteer, a thief, a diplomat, a husband to thousands of wives, a cosmic being, the universe itself, both terrifyingly divine AND deeply human at once.

But the SECOND someone explores him through queer intimacy or emotional fluidity, suddenly everyone remembers “boundaries,” “tradition,” and “proper interpretation.”

Like wow. Fascinating. So he can contain the cosmos but apparently not bisexuality. Noted.

We can handle Vishvarupa. We can handle him casually bending reality and delivering cosmic truths beyond human comprehension. But two men having suspiciously intense emotionally codependent dialogue? THAT is where the realism breaks for people 💀

People are comfortable with divine love as an aesthetic. The second it becomes specific, the universality develops walls very quickly.

They also don't have a problem with Mitra-Varuna, but we all know that's because no modern Hindu is as attached to them as they are to Krishna, given that he's one of, if not THE MOST prominent deity in hinduism rn. This is why they feel uncomfortable.

Male madhurya bhakti the lukewarm progressives still accept. But not someone male who is directly attached to Krishna. Who has actually met LIVING Krishna and spent time with him, for years. Who Krishna would give his own life for. Who Krishna can't stop obsessing over, again, CANONICALLY.

Vidur: “No bribe can part Krishna from Arjun. Arjun is not Krishna’s friend, he’s Krishna’s very breath.”

Episode 64: https://youtu.be/5fHhWT26GLQ?si=enWfGJj__Joc8ye2

Time Stamp: 27:49

As a cis person is there any way I can formally oppose this, like is there any petition I can sign or something like that.

And to all the Indian trans folks reading this, don't lose out on hope. The bill is not a law yet. It'll go to rajyasabha and then to courts. Let us hope it gets rejected in rajyasabha. And as far as I am aware one can also file public interest litigation against the bill then.

WE KEEP FIGHTING!!

you can sign a petition & if you're a current resident send an email to your member of parliament. i am linking both sites below

Having a character grow up in solitary confinement and then ripping her away from the only family she's ever known to live a life of solitude once again is not good writing.

Having a character be in love with his best friend and then just compare it to a high school crush is not good writing.

Having Eleven say that Mike has always been the person who truly understood her after showing us in the previous seasons that he only sees her as a superhero IS NOT GOOD WRITING.

Bringing the story into real life, and considering it involves someone who has already attempted suic*de, the point they left him at the end of the story is worrying.

I’m actually, really, really heartbroken for him. the duffers didn’t deserve to write mike’s ending and I will always, always stand on it, especially as someone who’s related to him as a queer coded character so deeply for years. I love him. I really, really do and what they’ve turned him into in the finale is just heartbreaking for me. There’s no other word I could use. everything about his life is a lie, he keeps a painting on his wall that’s built on lies, he makes up the endings for all of his friends but doesn’t get to write his own.

it honestly feels like such a slap in the face. taking a very much canonically suicidal, emotionally depressed boy and making him end up away from his friends, all alone in the basement and sobbing as he thinks about the most important person in his life slipping through his fingers.