this is such a bizarre reply because you only made red herring arguements.
the discussion was about whether caste is a british invention and whether karna faced discrimination because of his birth.
instead, you wrote six paragraphs about anti-bihari prejudice in maharashtra.
okay? yes, anti-bihari and anti-up xenophobia exists. i've literally never denied that. it's disgusting and people should be called out for it.
but what does that have to do with caste existing before the british?
you also ask whether i know the difference between caste and class while proceeding to mix up caste, class, and xenophobia as though they're all interchangeable. they're not. they overlap sometimes, but they are not the same thing.
caste ≠ class ≠ regional discrimination
and your lived experience? absolutely valid.
but your experience of being discriminated against for being from UP doesn't tell us anything about the caste class conflation you made.
it's like me saying "i've experienced sexism, therefore feudalism never existed." one has nothing to do with the other.
"casteism is a wrong term." the term is used in sociology, history, law, journalism, and everyday language.declaring "it's the wrong term" without explaining why isn't an argument.
it's just saying "nuh uh" with more words.
this idea that expecting people to learn the language of the state is somehow uniquely oppressive is honestly ridiculous.
maharashtra's official language is marathi. if someone settles here long-term, why is learning basic marathi such an outrageous expectation?
people move to france and expect french.
people move to germany and expect german.
people move to japan and expect japanese.
nobody asks those countries to conduct public life in whatever language migrants happen to speak.
why is it only marathis who are expected to accommodate everyone else?
protecting and promoting the native language of a state isn't xenophobia. it's literally how regional languages survive. otherwise every language with less economic power eventually gets pushed aside by the one with the biggest demographic advantage.
now, if someone gets assaulted for not speaking marathi, that's a crime. obviously. prosecute them.
but don't pretend that's the same thing as the state giving preference to its own official language. those are two completely different conversations.
and finally, you still haven't answered the actual question.
"will marathis give us rights?" 😭
you've gone from debating the history of caste to roleplaying as if migrants are an oppressed nationality with no civil rights.
which rights are you missing, exactly? the right to vote? work? own property? start businesses? contest elections? because you already have all of them.
you keep confusing "people were rude to me" with "i've been denied rights." those are not the same thing.
and this "you hate the poor" line is just emotional blackmail. apparently saying "marathi should have primacy in maharashtra" now translates to "i despise poor migrants." olympic-level leap.
the funniest part is acting shocked that maharashtra promotes marathi. next you'll tell me japan is xenophobic for using japanese and france has a dangerous french-imposition problem.