glizzardous

Or atleast some kind of dynamic between them instead of just pushing them into flat storylines then letting the audience grill them for "lack of depth"

(Mainly mfs who don't understand Sasha, Michonne is more accepted amd even then they still find reasons to grill her but how the stuff I've seen about sasha is actually insane)

Look at her lil smile

I said this on a post yesterday:

Everyone who hated on Eloise's feminist outlooks during 2022-23 bridgerton era in reality just hated that she broke their trad-wife romance standards with elements of realism and diverse outlook, same reason they hate Franchaela.

They loved it on Daphne and Penlope (no shade to them i love them bad), but that was because they could use it to justify their reliance on male validation in feminine issues.

"This is all I had been raised for, This is all I am I have no other value"

to

"You cannot understand, because you are not a woman"

Both incredible lines defining the era the story takes place, and strong emotional themes and values of the shows original grounding as culturally women empowering and suffrage.

Yet despite that, the strength of these lines are not reciprocated in the fan space when projected onto women characters who are not reliant on a male counterpart to display it.

Eloises lines early season are strong but end up being used as a gag moment to which the audience interprets as a way to not take her seriously, only time it was strong enough early season was when she called out the womanizer Violet made her dance with at the ball.

This is also why they haaaaate Franchaela.

Can't project on them, can't find a feminine issue that RELIES on a male counterpart to be validated.

"She needs micheal for her infertility storyline!"

When she had her infertility plot . . . With John. .

"So Eloise is never getting a season?"

To

"Eloises actor will be so old by her season. ."

A bunch of weirdos trying to justify their weird ass standards while backhandedly outting themselves be so fr

Also just another excuse for straight women tk hate on franchaela because it "interrupts" their hetero fantasy schedules

But anyways, Claudia Jessie is beautiful, Franchaela Canon, and Eloise Bridgerton #1 bridgerton

now that we've got the psychic trio can we please refer to them as NAT20 I'm begginggg

( 11 + 8 + 1 = 20 )

Would The Promised Neverland be considered a dystopia?

Exact reason why I love Win Or Lose.

But I just noticed that the traveler that venti is speaking to in the prologue is the Pyro Traveler???

As in, their element as he's speaking this story to traveler meaning traveler probably just came from natlan.

I don't think these freaks have ever heard of a normal connection 💔

Old topic, but the online discourse between Eloise and Penelope's relationship will never fail to irritate me for a number of reasons, but mainly because of the popular opinion that "Eloise was always jealous of penelope's success etc" or "Eloise was a bad friend and never cared about pen's wants."

I disagree with this take specifically because of this Singular scene. The Garden Scene in Season 2.

The previous scene of them before this was Eloise defending Penelope against Cressida's insult. Then afterwards, they leave the ballroom together to which they end up in the garden. Away from all eyes and ears. The conversation they have here is one of the most vulnerable and raw things I've ever seen, which to me makes their relationship feel all the more truer.

But it also reveals the limiters within their dynamic that I think alot of people miss.

Eloise dismisses Cressida Cowper's insult towards Penelope, while also discussing her distaste for the event entirely.

"It is all of them. Staring at me like I'm some fine China teapot. How do you do it on your own, Pen?"

At the end of her sentence here, she blindly includes Penelope, completely unaware of Pen's position being indirectly rejected by the Ton because of her features and family.

Pen reminds her of the "Wallflower" persona, to which Eloise cannot see. But Penelope, instead of complaining about the insult, reclaims and embodies it within her next dialogue.

"It's not so bad, you know. The Wallflower thing."

She starts listing off the benefits of her position rather than discussing her discomfort in the weight of rejection.

It feels bittersweet seeing her empathize with her involuntary non conformaty, even though we as viewers sees how hard it weighs on the character. But that's not the entire point of this dialogue. What really sells it to me is while she's listing off what the wall allows her to see, Eloise looks to her with a attentive expression before saying:

"You've been keeping it from me."

IMMEDIATELY, Pen displays shock. Misinterpreting this as Eloise figuring out she is Whistledown.

(Its revealed at the end of s1 that she's whistledown at this time so we automatically know this is her thought process.)

But to our surprise, Eloise is talking about something else. Which is Penelope's love for the regency scene of ballrooms, suitors, romance, etc.

But the real hit of this scene is what Eloise offers in this next round of dialogue. She's says:

"You do not have to pretend any longer, Pen.

You like all of this."

This line delivery is one of the most raw and expressive portrayals in media I've ever seen, Claudia Jessie you will always be famous.

To me, What hits so hard about this line is the implications behind what Eloise is offering and providing to Pen. A safe space.

There is also alot of online discourse about Eloise's character not being a "girl's girl" and shunning other women for their tastes in the regency standards and traditions for women at the time, but to me, what Eloise says in this scene somewhat combats that take. (A little bit)

Instead of berating Penelope for her interest in these events (that Eloise is always badmouthing and displaying her clear disinterest towards), She tells penelope she does not have to hide any longer from her.

In a way, this kinda feels like a hidden stone of Eloise's character that is not appreciated enough within the takes on her character. Her vulnerability and the Empathy that she has for those closest to her. You see her demonstrate this ability to provide a safe space when she's with Benedict on the swings, away from all eyes and ears.

In response to her "not being a girls girl", I don't think she has an active distaste for women in general. Her problems are with the standards and expectations implaced upon women and how society reduces women during that age to the skills they gain to attract a man, their submission to men, and their expected ability to reproduce

"Like Chattels and Breeding Stock" - Kate Sharma.

But there are times when Eloise's distaste for these standards end up reflecting onto the women around her but I really don't think that is her intention. In fact, she doesn't just refer to herself whenever she boasts about feminist ideals. She speaks of liberation for women in general.

She defends women when she has to dance with that guy Violet sets her up with at that ball.

"Maybe try not to insult her entire sex in the process."

And she is genuinely excited when visiting the Radical Rally for the first time and seeing a woman leading its debate. Though, I see this fails to translate in her scenes with societal women. Another fault of her character is her inability to remain in touch with the world around her.

(But that's why her ending line in s3 makes me believe her development in that aspect is arriving soon. "I cannot change the world without seeing more of it.")

But anyways!

Referring Back to her and Pen's dynamic and Eloise's realization of Pen's interest in the ton. I'm aware that this can also be easily tossed out the window because "Well that's the bare minimum! She should've noticed sooner!"

True, but then her character would have no faults. Scenes like this show she is capable of nuance and growth, as well as comfort and understanding. It makes her character humane.

But these scenes aren't nearly as recognized as her louder scenes, which only occur when she is put in a space where she is actively vulnerable to being judged or perceived. And how does she want to be perceived in this world?

A person existing outside the standard. A independent woman capable of holding her own in a society that prevent the culmination of the ideals she clings to.

Anyways, returning back to the main point of this rant.

Penelope is relieved for a moment after Eloise reveals the context behind that statement. And for a moment, you believe the scene will carry on with Pen admitting her deep passion for these traditions and continuing a healthy conversation of back and forth internal sharing between friends!

But Penelope does not do this.

Not entirely anyway. Instead, she sort of brushes off Eloise's offer.

"Well, It can be amusing."

Is all she says in response to Eloise's words before immediately changing the subject to Eloise's fading interest in lady whistledown.

To me, this immediate switch came off as a shock to me. Upon rewatching, I realized that this moment was different. It wasn't just her erasing suspicion of her connection to being whistledown. This was Penelope putting a wall up, portraying a gap within their relationship.

Because as Eloise is loudmouthed, opinionated, and talkative within their dynamic, Penelope is the opposite. Closed off, minimally responsive, and withdrawn.

This dynamic was never going to hold because there was a deep imbalance between the knowledge being shared within their bond.

THIS is why their argument at the end of s2 had nothing to do with Jealousy. It was a wake up call to Eloise that there was a whole withdrawn bank of knowledge about the person who she considered her closest friend, and her not knowing enough about her friend is what essentially led to their downfall.

Not because she never tried to know pen, but because she thought she did know pen. Everything she knew about Pen was what Penelope ALLOWED her to know and have access to.

She thought they had mutual trust built up over years of friendship. Trust so strong, that Penelope was the ONLY person she told about Theo.

Not even Benedict knew about Theo. AND THATS HER BROTHER.

There mightve been maybe some Jealousy later on, I don't really see that, but if it were to be, it was not in that room or that moment. That argument was all about heartbreak. Not just between her and Theo, but her and Penelope.

NOW, when I say this, I am not saying Penelope is some evil mastermind with a pension for deceit. Her decision to not tell Eloise about certain aspects of her life doesn't make her a bad person, but it does make you question the stability of her friendship.

But, She has a plethora of reasons as to why she has to keep herself withdrawn. Not only that, but the household she grew up in I'd argue is a direct causation of her tendency to withdraw information in all her relationships. That and because the independence of her having her own hobby, source of income, and uninflueced persona provides her with a level of agency that society could never provide for her.

But mainpoint I'm trying to say here, is that

1. Eloise is capable of displaying care for her friend's interests and can work to understand the value of those interests even if they do not align with her own, as portrayed in the garden.

And 2. Eloise is not jealous of pen's success and that their argument was a stepping stone to her development as a character and how the demonstration of heartbreak amongst her connections builds that development.

I really wanna decode more of the Garden scene, because it's way more emotional passed these few lines of dialogue, especially Eloise's admittance of her fears and internal Insecurity towards being a disappointment and Penelope's admittance towards liking the buzz of gossip and the opportunities the wall allows her.

But I'm really tired so tomorrow.

I thought her hesitating the entire episode and telling Cait to "take the shot" was basically giving away she is unable to actually kill jinx.

I'm quite sure her little speech was more for herself than it was for jinx. Trying to convince herself the lies she's announcing as her true feelings.

Not just that but she was pulling her punches the ENTIRE fight.

And then the one way out of seeing her sister's death was Isha's interference.

Immediately blew off Cait's shot cuz of harming the innocent. But also being given an immediate out from the fight. Using a reliable interference as a cover to not wanting to watch her sister die fr.

(Though im not saying it wasn't cuz Isha's an undercity kid, that def plays an important part. Jinx's eyes light up at seeing Vi stop Cait's shot.)