I think people would be less suicidal if they were allowed to talk about being suicidal without risk of being sent to the Torture Dungeon
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I think people would be less suicidal if they were allowed to talk about being suicidal without risk of being sent to the Torture Dungeon

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I think people would be less suicidal if they were allowed to talk about being suicidal without risk of being sent to the Torture Dungeon
if you've never been to the psych ward but wonder what kind of unethical practices go on there, here are a few examples from my own experience (as a teenager & young adult):
my friend was left alone in an empty rubber room overnight. for at least part of this i believe she was strapped down to a gurney. i saw her when they put her in there and it's an image i will never get out of my head.
i was forced to take antiandrogens (im intersex) at the state ward. when i initially declined (i'm transmasc), they labeled me noncompliant and threatened to take away "privileges" like socializing with my peers, going to school (we had our own school), going outside, and having certain foods.
being put on CO (constant observation) and having to have people watch you shower, change, and go to the bathroom. or, upon admission, being forced to strip and put on paper garments, and not being allowed to wear your own clothes for 48 hours. not even your own underwear. that's paper too.
these are just 3 examples, from 3 different hospitals. what they have in common is the systemic destruction of your dignity, autonomy, and personhood. that's not healing. that's not care. that's abuse and torture. psych wards employ literal torture tactics.
these facilities should not exist. no one should have this much power over another human being. especially not vulnerable people like the mentally ill and children.
Fun fact telling and explaining to people what will happen if they go to emergency asking for help for being a danger to themselves/others is not⦠bad. People should know what to expect, and make an informed choice based on available information instead of being lied to. It is not āscaring people away from help.ā
You all love informed consent till itās a crazy person.
Edit to clarify my overall beliefs 'cause people keep assuming it and it's annoying me. I am a psychiatric abolitionist, the psychiatric system is inherently oppressive. If you're looking for alternatives I reccomend looking into local mutual aid networks and anti-carcarel groups.

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I legit needed to hear this
yeah the joke is funny but itās actually really sad that people who are struggling canāt be candid about experiencing suicidality without threat of incarceration. and that the role āmental healthā professionals play in enforcing state policy is so normalised that everyone in these comments finds it funny. what kind of fucked up system insists that those deemed mentally ill must be subjected to therapy and then canāt even allow those trying to glean whatever small benefits are possible, to be genuine and talk about their real feelings?
also whatās particularly horrible is the self confessed therapist saying that āyāall aināt slickā as if incarcerating people and subjecting them to state violence is funny. fucking manā¦
u ever think about how some mental health disorders literally have criminal activity as a criteriaā¦like not even pretending just straight up āif you donāt follow the laws of the state youāre insaneā hmmm wonder why that might be

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Fun fact telling and explaining to people what will happen if they go to emergency asking for help for being a danger to themselves/others is not⦠bad. People should know what to expect, and make an informed choice based on available information instead of being lied to. It is not āscaring people away from help.ā
You all love informed consent till itās a crazy person.
We should be allowed to self-diagnose because most doctors don't believe us or care. š
When they say "just see a doctor" they mean:
call them, wait, press numbers, ring, oh no they're at lunch
wait until you remember again
call, wait, ring, oh no answering service
wait until the next day
call, wait, ring, talk to someone who doesn't see the referral
call the people who refer, wait, ring, they hang up on you
wait until you're less mad
call them again, wait, ring, finally schedule the apt
wait a fucking month for the appointment, ask for the referral, get told there already was a referral and they can't add two referrals
do that for three more months until the receptionist see the first referral
agonize over how many appointments you've had just to get another appointment
call, wait, ring, get told the only time available is a time you aren't
wait, try not to die, wait
call, wait, ring, press 1 a bunch, talk to someone who understands, finally make an appointment
find someone to give you a ride, no one can on that day
call, wait, press numbers, reschedule
confirm ride, wait another month and a half
go to the appointment, be in a room for 15 minutes, see doctor for 5 of them, get told you're fine and here's a flu shot goodbye
better luck next year ;P
wait, try not to die, repeat
dO YoU HaVe AnXiEtY?? š¤Ŗš
its not our fault we havenāt figured out how to help you, its just that you have Completely Helpless Disorder. no itās not made up we had it added to the dsm5 right hereš anyway this very real and valid disorder makes you completely helpless so. itās not our fault

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"We need to bring insane asylums back because now the mentally ill people go to prison instead-" well how about we actually consider not forcibly incarcerating us why can't we consider that as a real option