I've accepted these meme redraws as my true calling
i do consider all of the solo zoey ones ie the escalator, the utube ones as genuinely canon to me like cryptid photos of her come up online every now and then with people being like tf is this girl doing. then all the comments being like isn't that zoey from huntr/x
I have to put the OG one for Mira here tho nothing can hold a candle to the legend that is lee lin chin
real ones know
I also put Mira in the OG tomb Raider outfit BC I CAN WHO'S GONNA STOP ME
(I will unashamedly latch on to any character that has even the slightest hint of that classic lara croft je ne se quoi)
regarding stakes/ tone dissonance I talked abt in this post, I actually don't mind at all that the movie didn't lean into/ explore the darker implications of people's souls being eaten= dying
BC on one level it kind of separates huntr/x from general humanity ie how idols/ celebrities are IRL etc stan culture etc (oh noo they died damn 😢 ok anyway back to practice. I know theyre like "for the fans!!!!" Which is so funny like if u dont like huntr/x u can get eaten by a demon lol))
AND there is something interesting abt saving people being the secondary motivator to protagonists ie Rumi talking a lot abt doing her/ their duty (what she was raised to do), Mira immediately checking out after the rumi-demon reveal etc (was there a moment like that for Zoey? I think she says yay let's save the world so I guess that's something ha 1/3 .they really were most hype abt their couch or the bathhouse lol.)
BUT I mostly think it's funny when stories get away with morally/ethically dubious plot points/ implications by having the characters serve just that much cunt that it doesn't really matter ie the old tomb raider games (and angelina jolie's movies luv her), John Wick, Charlie's Angels, Sailor Moon, those hitman games etc etc
this may or may not make sense
and a bit more to that point tho i hope more studios will figure out people want cool shit again!! like earnestly cool!! It shouldn't be a surprise that cool cunty aspirational characters are popular!!! i think a lot of media from the 90s/ early 2000s got this like Kim Possible, Powerpuff girls, Mulan (girl had a fkn body count jeez), ATLA, The Matrix, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Casino Royale (ish), kill bill, blade, men in black, Mission Impossible 1, the legend of Zorro etc etc. that shit was cool as hell!
not to mention all of the absolute bangers coming out of japan ie sailormoon obvs, Neon Genesis Evangelion, cowboy bebop.
especially in kids' media like i remember shows and movies like batman the animated series, Samurai Jack and the incredibles making the biggest impression there was Flavourrrrr. I wasn't young enough to care abt frozen but i'll wager that a big part of elsa being super popular was a) banger songs but b) having frozone powers! Cool as hell!
Love how they fully committed too. I'd much rather a movie that fully backs itself than one that pre-emptively tries to address criticism/ pull an 8-mile. Movies that have that sense of insecurity/ self awareness/ need for relatability/ self-reference just loop.back around to being lame, like they're so afraid of being cringe it just turns out Bland AND Cringe. For me Sincerity will always be a win.
also i movies that have insane titles like Kung Fu Panda, KPop Demon Hunters, shaolin soccor. fkn hilarious.
so yea idk why KPDH was such a suprise hit to sony dawg, It's a fun balance btwn the fantasy of cool as hell demon slay superstar performers and themes of identity and authenticity of the self. I don't think audiences need characters to have similar lives to be able to resonate w them.
unrelated im curious to what direction the sequel goes bc the first one worked in large part (to me at least) bc it was pretty anchored/ simple. Like it was rumi's coming out story essentially which kept the emotional stakes/ narrative track really focused. like it didnt try to do too much. So for the sequel how do they justify the same kind of attention/ sympathy from the audience for another whole movie's runtime? Obvs the big draw of the movie is Huntr/x and the dynamics etc, so where's the character arc and emotional catharsis coming from this time?
IDK im absolutely not a writer, but that's what i was considering when doing those colour key things from a while back. like the general gist of it was the past never staying dead re mira's family. Basically trying to bind the external fantastic conflict to the personal emotional conflict. (also i think i had a b plot abt Rumi learning more abt her family and the effects of her hunter/demon nature that i never mentioned lol there was only 1 colour key that looked sick but i accidentally deleted the file and never got around to redoing it rip. thematically it tied in i promise)
(Side note anyone who watches kpdh and comes away thinking celine is the Real villian or w/e is dense af. Or completely lacking empathy. Or both. Imo that i can and will defend)
So it will be interesting to see what extent they develop the characters along with the world/lore. Like if they dont give Zoey & Mira more then they've lost me like im sorry you cant tell me they had satisfying arcs in the first movie. not to say they had to, it was mainly rumi's story but if the sequel is just abt the sunlight sisters/ rumi's family/ expandimg the lore (or jinu being resurrected. no hate to the Jinu stans out there but i will say it a thousand times respect death in fiction) without a solid character dev that'll be pretty weak.
I mean to say i'd like to see Z & M get a smiliar arc/ core wound resolution as Rumi, otherwise for me it's like Rumi and Hunt/x, not Huntr/x u kno.
I wouldn't be saying this if they were static characters but they are pretty clearly not so there's a set up, would be cool to see a satisfying payoff
i will also be interested to see if the Big Hit Success of the first one will be of benefit to the sequel's production or not. like i wonder if execs will interfer more considering a lot of money is on the table or if they'll leave the creative team alone (doubtful). who knows. also i saw a billboard for a KPDH/ mcdonalds promo and it had at the bottom the line "For Adult Fans" which i have NEVER seen for an animation before. Even spiderverse. So who knows maybe they'll bring back some of those more mature concepts they had in the artbook.
ultimately i wont be suprised if it turns out to be a lightening in the bottle kind of thing with the sequel not reaching the same heights (which is fine movies are hard af), i just hope they dont sacrifice character for world building or a more complicated plot or smth. (Also hope they dont go too preachy with themes (i think it would be super risky to go too far down the contemporary social commentary route considering what the kpop industry is like lol.) timeless themes = timeless movie.)
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"hey mira check out these sick moves. We should totally use these for our next choreo"
zoey's 14th time recreating Raygun's performance
rumi loves it
mira hates to be reminded of this affront to dance
"Brokedancing"
this doesnt have to make sense to anyone else but me
completely unrelated but if anyone is having a bad day or feeling down i recommend wqtching this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59NVvnkJ0Sw
i choke laugh everytime
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"Ooooh were you on a daaattteee??? Is he your boyfriennnnnnnnnnd"
"He's my brother and we were at our [family member]'s funeral"
bonus (that feeling when your family connection is unintentionally outed on nationalTV):
this isn't related to anything I've done prior, just wanted to see if I could translate a vignette from my head to page keeping the blocking/ shot editing close to what I imagine (NEVER doing this again wtf)
I will stand by my HC that the physical resemblance between Mira and her family (she and brother take after her mother) is Super strong (hard to distance urself from them when they are what you see in the mirror, also irony of being so close in looks but so far in perspective/ nature)
For context:
There's a death in Mira's family (IDK who depends on how intense u want the characters to react), so her brother tries to contact
M since she's effectively ex-communicato and wouldn't know. But since she's made every effort to be uncontactable by her family he
has to go to a fan signing to tell her.
They speak in Russian (I like to think they were sent to prestigious schools and learnt several languages to a decent degree, so he uses
Russian instead of something like Japanese as he assumes Rumi & Zoey are far less likely to understand it)
So the convo goes something like
"We need to talk"
"I have nothing to say to you"
"[family member]'s dead, the funeral is on Saturday" leaves
Mira's obvs a bit rattled but doesn't want to get into it/ explain anything since in her mind her Family and Huntr/x are separate and will never meet so she says oh we went to the same school - technically true but u know not quite the whole picture. Also doesn't want to think about her Family in general let alone talk abt them, doesn't want to answer questions.
BUT will go to funerals out of respect like damn.
Shared a cigarette break w her brother after the ceremony, smoking the [dead family member]'s fav brand as a weird kind of tribute (smoking is a motif I will talk about in later posts maybe)
Stunted conversation, a lot of history - also this is the first time together in years they've seen eachother (people change) etc
unfortunately spotted by the paps, then blindsided by it on a UK talk show during a press run for fashion week or smth
Is not about to get into it on live tv so AI is an easy out.
Only problem is that Rumi & Zoey connect the dots since they saw him up close
Also family's legal team scrubs the internet of any photos & videos of the incident since they also don't want the public connection
IDK I saw some clips of talkshows and damn do celebs get asked fairly invasive questions so casually good god
This plot is not anything really just something my brain entertained itself w while waiting in traffic
Also the establishing shot is pretty much a redraw of one of the apartment concepts from the ArtPost on Netflix full disclosure
just wanted to see if i can mimic the lighting used
Dialogue is so hamfisted tho i was planning to do more panels which would take WAYYYYYY too long so instead opted for super awkward dialogue exposition lol
take it or leave it yall i kind of hate this and only finished it out of spite
EDIT: this is rough outline of the scene that the paparazzi photo is of
was reminded of this one recently so i'll reblog it to state for the record that i dont hate this anymore haha
like the flow isnt as janky as i thought it was at the time
Im not going to edit out my original comments hating on it tho i was full on crashing out by the time I posted it, genuinely made me laugh reading that again
anyway thanks for everyone liking and leaving lovely comments/reblogs
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me, the polygon lasso and vertical stroke texture brush against the world
sometimes i can go overboard w/ the variety of brushes in photoshop so i find exercises like this where i can only use a single brush (and stroke direction if im feeling it) super helpful to bring it back to fundamentals
Don't u hate it when ur finally getting over your (canonically almost world-ending) situationship so u try maybe kinda flirting with a man u meet at some fancy party (or w/e) only to find out later that he's the estranged brother of your best friend and u were attracted to him BECAUSE he reminds you of said best friend.
Tldr: rumi doesn't realise she's talking to miras brother (he really reminds her of mira ie same eyes, same speech pattern etc, but rumi doesnt quite realise it). Her brother knows who she is ofc and figures that he should probably keep his distance, but rumi reminds him of mira and he can't help but want to spend some time with, if not his sister then with his sister's new family. (Also the Japanese movies mentioned are her brothers fav that he showed her when they were younger, so he's taken a back when rumi mentions that mira watches them with r and z the way that she used to w him)
EDIT: I'm just now seeing the typo in the last text panel for rumi FCK (your not youre)
Also rumi is mocking the whole corporate jargon vocab at the end there
Also the lighting at the start on his face is supposed mirror miras bit in the golden mv (for in my head they are foils/mirrors or w/e). And their meeting is reminiscent of how rumi met mira too (I think I made a post abt that ages ago?)
You can pry my hc that mira and her brother are so alike (physically obvs but low key in many other ways too) from my cold dead hands. serving cunt is a hereditary trait. They come from a farming family (An aura farming family):
Also I think it would be funny if not everyone assumes that huntr/X killing demons on-stage is part of the act like her brother sees the whole boss battle w gwi ma on TV and is like "oh I guess they're mudang? Ok"
I Always envision an introduction of her brother on a balcony or rooftop etc, half in half out. Looking out to the open, (open sky) but still stuck in the building. U kno for the symbolism
Context/ plot list/ vibes under the cut
For context: Huntr/X is invited to a fancy elite party or w/e but it's not the glitz and glam kind it's the %1 of the %1 kind of thing.
And they're invited when other entertainment people aren't is bc their economic impact when they tour/ release new stuff is comparable to like a small country's gdp or smth. But zoey can't go bc she's scheduled to appear on like idk physical 100 and she's not missing that for anything. And Mira has some fashion thing idk on but also is like ugh, you couldn't get me to go to on of those things if u paid me.Rumi who after the whole demon reveal thing (weight off her shoulders) is like fuck it I'll go by myself idc I look hot it could be fun.
Mira: "you haven't been to many of those things have you"
And she goes and it's yea bougie af but she can't help but feel like everyone there is looking at her like wolves do a lamb. And this senator dick won't leave her alone (idk doesn't have to be creepy but I feel we've all met people who talk at you foreverrrrrr) so she's having face but ready to tell him to fuck off.
Then some man comes up, politely interrupts and says that the senator is needed elsewhere. And the senator, who was talking a big game, doesn't protest and immediately leaves with the stranger. Rumi didn't get a good look at the man but as they leave he glances back at her, not a wink or a nod but enough to acknowledge, like "gotchu girl"
And later she sees him by himself outside, and as they talk she has this uncanny feeling like she knows him. She can't put her finger on it but she feels comfortable w him, and there's something more to him than he's letting on. He also seems cagey and evasive, but not disingenuous. But then he mentions the "demon type", which sets alarm bells off like does he know? How? Is he just referring to the lyrics from takedown? That seems way too specific tho that would be weird for him to do that.
Then they're interrupted before she gets any answers, but before she goes back inside she pauses. He's like "it was a pleasure". But she has this weird feeling abt him and the demon reference makes her even more suspicious, so she grabs his hand to see if patterns light up. They don't (not a DEMON woo)He's like "tf are you doing"She bails after that it's a bit embarrassing.
Later she's telling zoey abt the guy (damn she can't remember his name) and she's describing him/ his vibes like she's sure they've seen him before. Zoeys like "I mean I can't think of any GUYS like who you're describing". Not mentioning she's pretty much described Mira exactly.
This isn't anything related to anything else storywise, just riffing off my fav hc that despite mira being the "black sheep" and not getting on w her family they are actually a lot alike (like that other post I made w the gala penthouse thing)
Key differences tho are:She's driven by love where as her father is driven by existential insecurity and fear.
Her mother (although v smart) is v selfish/ emotionally immature where she is the opposite.
Mira knows who she is (secure in her identity) but her brother doesn't know himself anymore (a consequence of trying to win the love of their parents.
Like they both have the same core wound (not seen/loved by their parents - in the right way anyway) but they have vastly different responses to it.Ie Mira becomes so bold and audacious and successful that they are forced to see/ recognise her. Whereas her brother distorts himself in an attempt to match what he understands them to want.
Neither approach is successful, not the kids fault tho it's the parents.
Something so funny to have a character who is the visual of a famous kpop group with a core wound of wanting "to be seen" ie recognised and loved by her family for who she is. Also her name literallymeans look in spanish lol
Tho I will say any story abt her family to me isn't rich parents = bad and mean, it's more about how tragedies of the past ripple through generations and how, try as we might, we can never be completely separated from family bc it's literally in our blood.
I will say that I think it would be funny if at first the brother seems to be another example of the chaebol son trope. Only for that to not be the case ie he looks/seems the part so people assume it's the case ie seems aloof and laconic but is actually disassociating so hard and doesn't speak a lot bc his parents were like omg dude shut tf up when he was younger rip self esteem). And wears the suits that people might associate w that east Asian Mafia aesthetic but he's like damn I can't wear t shirts to these meetings tf do u what me to do. He can't help that he has resting bitch face an high cheekbones.
I like to think that unlike her parents, she misses her brother deeply, and he does as well. And they both love each other deep down but both think that the other resents them. And it's easier to hate than to love. But love is persistent. And so they keep memories of one another (maybe her brother is a huuuge kurosawa fan, and used get mira to watch his favourite movies with him. And so she loves to watch those movies with rumi and zoey. Bitter-sweet. And maybe mira would put on performances as a little kid dancing to her favourite songs. And her parents were always too busy. But her brother would sit and watch and applaud. And now he has a playlist of all of those songs. That he listens to when he's sad/lonely. Which is often these days. Bitter-sweet). Also so much time has passed since they last saw each other that it would take Mira like 8 seconds to recognise him now
Anyway I love the intro scene in silence of the lambs where you expect lecter to be a monster but when he's first on-screen he's v clean and presentable, and then later he bites someone's face of like the juxtaposition is tastyyyy.So this is my little version of that w rumi assuming that her brother would be a dick, bc Mira doesn't get on w her family and she's cool so he must not be, then when she realises who he is she's taken aback bc he's actually a lot like mira. But also like mira and herself amd zoey (kpop stars who moonlight as demon hunters) there's a lot more to him than just appearances
ciao ciao so not kpdh but i thought i'd share some of my exercises i use for colour key practice (got this exercise from the legend Yuhki demers)
(Some of yall said you'd like to see some other stuff so here ye go)
so you get a couple of screen shots from a cgi animated sequence (animated=good since it pushes colour more than live action and cgi bc it describes forms more consistently that 2d) then you change the colours to make an opposite version of the tone/ vibe of the oG scene:
so the og one is on top, then i change the colours keeping the OG lighting, then for the final one i completely change the lighting as well.
I'm not precious abt the rendering bc the main focus of the exercise is colour
I find these helpful since you can only consider colour as the main tool, not composition:
also it's good to check the studies in black and white to make sure the values are still readable:
so even w/o colour you can still see whats going on
If youre in photoshop i recommend using View>proof set up since if you just use a desaturation/ B&W mask or filter it doesnt accurately translate the hue to the value as this method below does (select dot grain 20%):
so yeah idk maybe this is interesting for some of my fellow digital artists out there it can be a fun exercise
not sure how to tag this so am open to suggestions
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reposting this bc I noticed I didn't include the honmoon patterns on the outfits ( ༎ຶŎ༎ຶ ) here's the proper one (aaaand also added a bit of the forest sequence and more context to the gumiho/ mira theme):
anywho what IF they made a HALLOWEEN special set after huntr/x turn the honmoon rainbow (?) which MEANS they have to deal with more SUPERNATURAL stuff spilling into the human realm and one NIGHT they are hunting what they think is a DEMON but they can't FIND it in the deep dark forest or w/e bc it's not acting like a regular demon it's all elusive and there's all those horror/ thriller tropes of group split up/ monster in the dark/ cant see the monster but it can see you etc AND TURNS OUT it is a GUMIHO that's way too OP (I like to think of the KPDH power scaling as demons →demon hunters→spirits) and so even tho they cant see it/ arent quite sure what it is YET they feel that instant blood curdling bone chilling terror etc but also a weird sense of thrilling anticipation. which gives them pause like "hey i dont think we're the hunters here"
anyway plot plot idk they end up tracking the Gumiho to a CLUB where everyone is wearing masks like an underground masquerade so Huntrx shows up in the outfits above
and they have to search and find out who is the demon/spirit/ whatever they're hunting they're still a bit in the dark (also gumiho shape shifts so there's that) and how do they know who is the REAL demon and who's just wearing masks etc and there's that dark rhythmic synth blasting and it's all chaotic w flashing neon strobes BUT THEN they for just a second see in the crowd a wildly beautiful woman WITHOUT a mask (bc the human form is already kind of the mask) looking right back at them and they get that same sense of danger and thrill then she melts back into the crowd:
so the gumiho looks like this (huntr/x for scale it's as big as a Clydesdale in fox form):
(for general vibes think Eres from that sinbad movie)
AND turns out THIS gumiho isn't evil it is a truly ANCIENT being like it was old in 200 bce and speaks like. idk the korean equivalent of shakespeare. AND is essentially an allegory/ personification of nature ie it's neutrality/ moral indifference, completely outside of humanity.
and the Legends of gumiho bewitching men and killing them isnt entirely accurate bc the gumiho just mostly keeps to itself but HUMANS cannot mind their business and throughout history there are many examples of them trying to conquer/possess/control nature and it's beauty/power (beautiful things in general).
and so in both fox and human form the gumiho is hunted by Man bc fox form=conquering nature like how people hunt elephants/ lions etc and human form= beautiful woman (i dont think i need to explain that one)
and so like people trying to "conquer" frontiers/ mountains they try to conquer the gumiho. but like nature the gumiho doesn't give a fuck abt morality or w/e and kills those who dont respect it. fuck around and find out, if you will.
so there's an ethical bind for huntr/x since the gumiho could have easily killed them 20 times over but didnt, and only kills for self-preservation, so it is only a threat to humans if humans try to impose their will on the gumiho. do you hunt/ imprison/ kill the gumiho in order to protect people from the consequences of their own actions? when if you were a gumiho to you'd likely do the same?
this bit of clunky dialogue is from a previous colour key post but it gets the general point across i thinK:
(G:You are hunters, yet you cower in fear
M: they say gumiho bewitch people, kill them, eat them
G: child i have seen your kind throw themselves at mountains on high in the vain attempt to conquer the peak. each time they perished or were turned back, yet still they continued in their obsession. are you to tell me these mountains bewitched these humans? no, only your kind seem incapable of gazing upon wild beauty without desiring to control it M: So you don't kill?
G: indeed i did, and you would too, were you I)
Also i find the gumiho to be Mira adjacent since if i go off the gumiho lore as mentioned above i think it ties in with the ideas around being the "visual" vis a vis body a commodity, self-determinism etc. and i like to think that the "lie she believes" is the whole "i'm aggressive, too blunt etc etc". but that's not really true, and she was only ever a "problem child" bc she wouldn't/ couldn't conform to the constraints/ expectations of her parents (i like to think of them as lowkey fkn unhinged, so there's no way she could have met their approval anyway, at least without losing her mind too.
(also my hc is that her brother is actually pretty similar to her but tried to appease their parents instead of rebelling against them and he's now a mess.ie a foil). like dont get me wrong she's definitely a direct, will not suffer fools type of personality but the anti-social behaviour she exhibited was just a fair reaction to her surroundings, so when she's allowed to be herself she's relatively chill like how she's presented in the movie. (but she's been gaslit to hell into believe the whole quick to anger aggressive thing). and maybe as a reaction to being told you get too wild she's like "oh i'll show you wild")
So w the gumiho being like "ofc i killed those people they were gonna kill me or worse. how do you expect me to react" she's like huh u kno what fair enough.
so parallels i guess.
i mean i like to think there's way more to mira's relationship w her family but i've talked abt that on other posts and it's super long here anyway
(I guess she could sort a lot of this out in therapy but idk if Mira, who straight up growled at the healer guy for trying to read her or w/e would willingly step into a therapy session?? i do love how she was amused when the healer clocked rumi but as soon as it was directed at her she's like u wanna fkn fight mate. ~ imo narratives & character arcs require resolution through conflict so i only ever think characters should get therapy in stories to either show how ill-adjusted they are ie fleabag, successesion or as a framing device that doesn't have the desired outcome on irl therapy ie the sopranos. as in id rather see characters work out/ have realisations abt themselves throught plot etc etc no therapy speech in my little stories. headcanon w/e u want tho)
anyway i just love stories w girls can work through their justified anger and it's not all just like ooh let it go be the bigger person violence is not the answer bc i really dont think that kind of moral framework/resolution works the same as it does w male characters (katara i will forever love you)
anyway im not going to go on bc i feel like this:
general themes include adoration vs fetishization (where is the line), ancient clashing w the modern, amoral nature vs the human tendency to rationalise/moralise, power & control, the bias of history/ legends and who tells them, who controls the narrative, the horrors of being perceived and the entertainment industry writ large ie voyeurism, exploitation and its echoes throughout history etc etc
anyway there isn't any super thought out plot/ story here I just wanted to get those visuals out (my process is something like "oh this scene would look so cool" then i have to work backwards to find a story to match with the themes and vibes of the visual - so apologies to anyone hoping for a resolution/ coherent plot for any of the colour keys/ storyboards i've done in the past idk how to write anything properly D':) nothing here is that serious/coherent
on a completely different tangent I dont care about exactly which direction they take the sequel in (just don't resurrect jinu lol don't cheapen death/sacrifice)
buuut I do hope they a) don't nerf huntrix (rumi is so op now lol) but instead use power scaling to up the stakes/ introduce the antagonist/ new status quo. Bc in the first movie you never get the feeling that huntr/X is ever actually in danger/ not the most powerful ie saja boys had to go after the fans, gwi-ma was honestly not that hard to defeat once they got back together (I know that might be a consequence of script changes and rushed pacing but w/e)
SO I think IT would be VERY COOL for huntrx to get absolutely bodied in the first act by the new antagonist, thus upping the stakes immediately and introducing a new kind of threat (they might lose not just by not sealing the honmoon but by fkn dying lol) so now instead of being big fish in a little pond they're now big fish in the ocean w sharks or smth.
(I know it's a family movie but all the best kids films imo have genuine dire stakes like mufasa died on screen, implied massacre in mulan, panda genocide in kung fu panda 2, spiderman getting killed 20 mins into into the spiderverse, whatever was going on w the priest in humpback of notre dame. Toy story 3s incinerator bit. Also just how kids imaginations work anyway like they come up w some dark shit.)
And b) just go into the consequences of the first movie's end and not rely too much on flashbacks. Obviously it would be interesting to see stuff abt the sunlight sisters and rumis parents and huntrx origin story but not at the expense of developing the cause and effect part essential to sequels. Like its a sequel not a prequel. Godfather 2 is a great example of this kind of thing done right, but I think the KDPH narrative/ themes in particular lend itself to Consequences being super important ie yes tradition can be broken but there is always consequences for that, good and bad, and by breaking tradition you forgo the roadmap inherent in tradition, so everything is new and you kind of have to figure it out as you go. Fuck around and find out if you will. (Also I think all 3 can embody the theme of breaking tradition ie rumis literal existence, mira = black sheep, zoey= caught between 2 cultures/identities and must forge her own). I mean I don't think that they won't develop the story I just hope they don't overexplain the past lore or w/e in an effort to over correct the first movie not really getting into it all that much bc i feel like overexplaining can kill the mystery/ scope of a story and also bloats the narrative.
reposting this bc I noticed I didn't include the honmoon patterns on the outfits ( ༎ຶŎ༎ຶ ) here's the proper one (aaaand also added a bit of the forest sequence and more context to the gumiho/ mira theme):
anywho what IF they made a HALLOWEEN special set after huntr/x turn the honmoon rainbow (?) which MEANS they have to deal with more SUPERNATURAL stuff spilling into the human realm and one NIGHT they are hunting what they think is a DEMON but they can't FIND it in the deep dark forest or w/e bc it's not acting like a regular demon it's all elusive and there's all those horror/ thriller tropes of group split up/ monster in the dark/ cant see the monster but it can see you etc AND TURNS OUT it is a GUMIHO that's way too OP (I like to think of the KPDH power scaling as demons →demon hunters→spirits) and so even tho they cant see it/ arent quite sure what it is YET they feel that instant blood curdling bone chilling terror etc but also a weird sense of thrilling anticipation. which gives them pause like "hey i dont think we're the hunters here"
anyway plot plot idk they end up tracking the Gumiho to a CLUB where everyone is wearing masks like an underground masquerade so Huntrx shows up in the outfits above
and they have to search and find out who is the demon/spirit/ whatever they're hunting they're still a bit in the dark (also gumiho shape shifts so there's that) and how do they know who is the REAL demon and who's just wearing masks etc and there's that dark rhythmic synth blasting and it's all chaotic w flashing neon strobes BUT THEN they for just a second see in the crowd a wildly beautiful woman WITHOUT a mask (bc the human form is already kind of the mask) looking right back at them and they get that same sense of danger and thrill then she melts back into the crowd:
so the gumiho looks like this (huntr/x for scale it's as big as a Clydesdale in fox form):
(for general vibes think Eres from that sinbad movie)
AND turns out THIS gumiho isn't evil it is a truly ANCIENT being like it was old in 200 bce and speaks like. idk the korean equivalent of shakespeare. AND is essentially an allegory/ personification of nature ie it's neutrality/ moral indifference, completely outside of humanity.
and the Legends of gumiho bewitching men and killing them isnt entirely accurate bc the gumiho just mostly keeps to itself but HUMANS cannot mind their business and throughout history there are many examples of them trying to conquer/possess/control nature and it's beauty/power (beautiful things in general).
and so in both fox and human form the gumiho is hunted by Man bc fox form=conquering nature like how people hunt elephants/ lions etc and human form= beautiful woman (i dont think i need to explain that one)
and so like people trying to "conquer" frontiers/ mountains they try to conquer the gumiho. but like nature the gumiho doesn't give a fuck abt morality or w/e and kills those who dont respect it. fuck around and find out, if you will.
so there's an ethical bind for huntr/x since the gumiho could have easily killed them 20 times over but didnt, and only kills for self-preservation, so it is only a threat to humans if humans try to impose their will on the gumiho. do you hunt/ imprison/ kill the gumiho in order to protect people from the consequences of their own actions? when if you were a gumiho to you'd likely do the same?
this bit of clunky dialogue is from a previous colour key post but it gets the general point across i thinK:
(G:You are hunters, yet you cower in fear
M: they say gumiho bewitch people, kill them, eat them
G: child i have seen your kind throw themselves at mountains on high in the vain attempt to conquer the peak. each time they perished or were turned back, yet still they continued in their obsession. are you to tell me these mountains bewitched these humans? no, only your kind seem incapable of gazing upon wild beauty without desiring to control it M: So you don't kill?
G: indeed i did, and you would too, were you I)
Also i find the gumiho to be Mira adjacent since if i go off the gumiho lore as mentioned above i think it ties in with the ideas around being the "visual" vis a vis body a commodity, self-determinism etc. and i like to think that the "lie she believes" is the whole "i'm aggressive, too blunt etc etc". but that's not really true, and she was only ever a "problem child" bc she wouldn't/ couldn't conform to the constraints/ expectations of her parents (i like to think of them as lowkey fkn unhinged, so there's no way she could have met their approval anyway, at least without losing her mind too.
(also my hc is that her brother is actually pretty similar to her but tried to appease their parents instead of rebelling against them and he's now a mess.ie a foil). like dont get me wrong she's definitely a direct, will not suffer fools type of personality but the anti-social behaviour she exhibited was just a fair reaction to her surroundings, so when she's allowed to be herself she's relatively chill like how she's presented in the movie. (but she's been gaslit to hell into believe the whole quick to anger aggressive thing). and maybe as a reaction to being told you get too wild she's like "oh i'll show you wild")
So w the gumiho being like "ofc i killed those people they were gonna kill me or worse. how do you expect me to react" she's like huh u kno what fair enough.
so parallels i guess.
i mean i like to think there's way more to mira's relationship w her family but i've talked abt that on other posts and it's super long here anyway
(I guess she could sort a lot of this out in therapy but idk if Mira, who straight up growled at the healer guy for trying to read her or w/e would willingly step into a therapy session?? i do love how she was amused when the healer clocked rumi but as soon as it was directed at her she's like u wanna fkn fight mate. ~ imo narratives & character arcs require resolution through conflict so i only ever think characters should get therapy in stories to either show how ill-adjusted they are ie fleabag, successesion or as a framing device that doesn't have the desired outcome on irl therapy ie the sopranos. as in id rather see characters work out/ have realisations abt themselves throught plot etc etc no therapy speech in my little stories. headcanon w/e u want tho)
anyway i just love stories w girls can work through their justified anger and it's not all just like ooh let it go be the bigger person violence is not the answer bc i really dont think that kind of moral framework/resolution works the same as it does w male characters (katara i will forever love you)
anyway im not going to go on bc i feel like this:
general themes include adoration vs fetishization (where is the line), ancient clashing w the modern, amoral nature vs the human tendency to rationalise/moralise, power & control, the bias of history/ legends and who tells them, who controls the narrative, the horrors of being perceived and the entertainment industry writ large ie voyeurism, exploitation and its echoes throughout history etc etc
anyway there isn't any super thought out plot/ story here I just wanted to get those visuals out (my process is something like "oh this scene would look so cool" then i have to work backwards to find a story to match with the themes and vibes of the visual - so apologies to anyone hoping for a resolution/ coherent plot for any of the colour keys/ storyboards i've done in the past idk how to write anything properly D':) nothing here is that serious/coherent
on a completely different tangent I dont care about exactly which direction they take the sequel in (just don't resurrect jinu lol don't cheapen death/sacrifice)
buuut I do hope they a) don't nerf huntrix (rumi is so op now lol) but instead use power scaling to up the stakes/ introduce the antagonist/ new status quo. Bc in the first movie you never get the feeling that huntr/X is ever actually in danger/ not the most powerful ie saja boys had to go after the fans, gwi-ma was honestly not that hard to defeat once they got back together (I know that might be a consequence of script changes and rushed pacing but w/e)
SO I think IT would be VERY COOL for huntrx to get absolutely bodied in the first act by the new antagonist, thus upping the stakes immediately and introducing a new kind of threat (they might lose not just by not sealing the honmoon but by fkn dying lol) so now instead of being big fish in a little pond they're now big fish in the ocean w sharks or smth.
(I know it's a family movie but all the best kids films imo have genuine dire stakes like mufasa died on screen, implied massacre in mulan, panda genocide in kung fu panda 2, spiderman getting killed 20 mins into into the spiderverse, whatever was going on w the priest in humpback of notre dame. Toy story 3s incinerator bit. Also just how kids imaginations work anyway like they come up w some dark shit.)
And b) just go into the consequences of the first movie's end and not rely too much on flashbacks. Obviously it would be interesting to see stuff abt the sunlight sisters and rumis parents and huntrx origin story but not at the expense of developing the cause and effect part essential to sequels. Like its a sequel not a prequel. Godfather 2 is a great example of this kind of thing done right, but I think the KDPH narrative/ themes in particular lend itself to Consequences being super important ie yes tradition can be broken but there is always consequences for that, good and bad, and by breaking tradition you forgo the roadmap inherent in tradition, so everything is new and you kind of have to figure it out as you go. Fuck around and find out if you will. (Also I think all 3 can embody the theme of breaking tradition ie rumis literal existence, mira = black sheep, zoey= caught between 2 cultures/identities and must forge her own). I mean I don't think that they won't develop the story I just hope they don't overexplain the past lore or w/e in an effort to over correct the first movie not really getting into it all that much bc i feel like overexplaining can kill the mystery/ scope of a story and also bloats the narrative.
had the movie playing for the first time in a while and forgot how fuckin Stressed rumi was lol mira was not playin
I know it's supposed to be a serious scene or w/e but I love how rumi just yeah-nah's the takedown song SHE had the idea for the day before the performance without explanation. Valid crashout for Zoemira
Also forgot how fast the pacing was haha like you can just feel the studio interference in some cases like in the variety show bit there was a set up for them to play games and then they just didn't? Like I dead ass thought my netflix jumped a minute ahead haha so much must have been left on the cutting room floor
but in a weird way i think I think the Mach 5 pacing actually helped out a lot, since it kept things going pretty fast (I can see why they'd do that for a family animation) and also it didn't really give the audience time to question the disparity between the tone/stakes. ie u see people's souls getting sucked out and missing persons reports etc and that naturally raises the question of what does getting ur soul stolen actually mean? Like are they straight up dying? There's that shot of jinu looking at the soul light things going to gwi-ma and is like oooh I'm conflicted, but wait he's watching people die?? But the movie just blasts right along so it doesn't get bogged down in the implications. Like hey dw here's a great song chill
and i think it absolutely was the right decision not to include any super overt romance between rumi and jinu like secret dates or a kiss or w/e because if that was the case the idol awards betrayal would read soooooo terrible lmao there would have been nothing they could have done to get him a semblance of satisfactory atonement for me. (And isn't it better to have a what could have been as opposed to a love lost for a change.)
Also I think I saw a deleted scene where celine says she killed rumis parents??? That would have been soooooo lame lol glad they cut that cliche
Anyway I really do stand by the less is more adage, i'd rather have a super lean tight movie. like there wasn't a scene that i thought oh this could have been cut or what's the point of this it was all very cause and effect
a bit more rambling under the cut
(tho i do think the big climax at the end wasn't %100 percent earned IMO. i'd say that as a stand alone movie I cant really consider Zoey and Mira having complete character arcs since i read that for Zoey the lie she believes is that "too much/not enough" ie A grade people pleaser caught between 2 identities has to prove her worth etc so when she's like "i thought my ideas and lyrics were weird but yall like them" "why did cover up the colours stuck inside my head" it doesn't really land for me bc was she covering up the colours? not really to me? and w Mira the lie she believes is that she's "highly aggressive short fused blunt etc" but i mean give me an example dog honestly she seemed pretty patient in the movie w all the shit rumi was pulling. and also if "let the jagged edges meet the light instead" is supposed to be the resolution it's kind of the same issue w Zoey's line since when did she cover up jagged edges? (if anything those lines mostly apply to rumi not Z&M). I mean i get what they're going for but it doesn't land %100 for me as is? Since when analysing text i don't like to infer too much u kno like you gotta look at was is presented (art history degree was a fkn trial sometimes i swear some of those readings were just rage bait).
But knowing there's a sequel coming it makes sense that not everyone's character arcs were %100 resolved ie more to work with. and even if there wasn't a sequel it's still an interesting note to end on ie not to have everything tied up open ended stories are just as interesting. But i doubt sony greenlit the sequel before the absolute bonkers streaming numbers came in so i do see how people can say that m and z were a bit underdeveloped. To be clear I'm not saying it was unsatisfying or anything.
(also i know that the lie the character believes / realisation of thematic truth is not the only framework to judge a character arc on but i feel like it was set up with the healer's office bit and the discussion before the idol awards etc etc)
And also writing is hard lol i cant imagine how hard it would be as a director to get ur vision out while complying with studio contraints/ stipulations.
so i think it's a good idea that they kept the movie pretty tight and condensed to as to not bite of more than they can chew u know
I will say i am glad they had the guts to kill jinu tho that was a fitting end, bc up until that very moment he was still reaping souls for gwi-ma like cmon. and with him leaving his family i think it would have made him more sympathetic if they showed something like the emperor threatening him or smth like you can assume/ suppose that leaving the palace or asking for them to come with etc would get them killed but again i think that it has to be made a bit more explicit. but that wasn't the case and he again, was reaping souls so i think it the release of death and a final selfless act was fitting
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*narrator voice* It, in fact, was all about her insecurities
Ok first up I have no idea what the plot is for this don't think too much abt the references in the dialogue it's just set dressing
For a long time I'd wanted to do an inverse version of the train scene
And also I looooove when characters become what they hate (esp on a path to avoid it hello eodipus), also love it when family dynamics fuck a character up, since nothing gets underneath skin like family
So imagine something like mira being threatened/ pressured/ idk sucked back into the vortex of her parents influence one way or another there's a couple of versions that I can't be bothered writing out (it also makes me seem insane). Anyway so the more she's around them/ they're in her head the more she becomes like them, despite her desperately trying to escape. Ie father= relentless Machiavellian ends justify the means no matter how brutal type a guy. And her mother being able to read people really well and knowing exactly what to say to cut them deep. A generational hater.
(I don't rope her brother in with the negative influence so much since I like to think that he's suffered as much as mira but it's affected him differently, so even tho their relationship is definitely strained/ non existent at this point there is still a shared understanding of each other, and its not as antagonistic. also they were once each other's only person so there's that in the mix)
Anyway so maybe rumi never apologised specifically abt the whole "not everything is abt ur insecurities" to mira. And she's fine w it I'm guessing rumi made sweeping apologies etc.
But mira strikes me as a person who forgives but doesn't forget.
And maybe in this backstory miras parents can put up a decent facade. Seeming like ok people who maybe want to reconnect and reconcile. And rumi, having done so with celine, maybe hopes that Mira can do so too. Maybe saying that mira should try, maybe leaving mira alone w her family (despite mira clearly wanting/ needing her and zoey to stay). And zoey follows rumis lead (conflict avoidance and all that). So mira feels pretty betrayed. Since as soon as r and z leave the facade falls. And it feels like everyone thinks she's overreacting. (Problem child)
And so normally she'd talk it out ie high emotional iq etc etc. But her family is an Achilles heel if you will. Like she is usually well adjusted except when she's around her parents. Where she gets super defensive (paranoid??) And a bit crazy in general.
And so tension stress blah blah blah and rumi hits a nerve abt the whole chip on her shoulder, smth to prove etc. But instead of acknowledging it, the shields are up the sword is drawn (refer back to the scene in the tonic Guys office) and she throws back rumis own words. And in doing so becomes the spitting image of her mother, as it is exactly what her mother would have said (Physically already she strongly takes after her mother but the tone, the sneer etc sends it into an uncanny resemblance)
And is there anything worse than becoming your parents (not always but u know what I mean)
also in contrast to rumi, who maybe says things impulsively that she doesn't really mean, mira actually means it (in that moment/mindset anyway) like she thinks before she talks, which in this case is probably worse than rumis clumsy outburst. Instead of trying to walk it back she clenches her jaw and stares rumi down
With zoey forever being a child of divorce lol
Again this isn't anything really just wanted to get the callback bit out and overcommitted to fleshing out the setup ew.
Like the other one spite is the sole motivator in the end here lol.
Id just want to stress that if this seems out of character for mira it's the intention, since she's acting like her parents not herself.
Im sure they work it out in the end tho
No therapy for my characters they're fighting it out
Also below is the type of shit her mother constantly says unprompted out of left field.
Like she'd be a funny character to watch in a black comedy but a truly horrible mother rip
i find it funny if after the events of the movie zoey & mira still didnt give a fuck abt Jinu dying like Yeah Rumi we're sad that you're sad but come on the guy was killing people :